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freeman » 03 Jan 2022, 5:45 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Jan 2022, 5:45 pm

Could this be beginning signs of mortality from vaccine longer term side effects? This article IS NOT about COVID deaths. Are the vaxxed whistling past the graveyard while waiting for the other shoe to drop?

"Indiana life insurance CEO says deaths are up 40% among people ages 18-64
By Margaret Menge

“We are seeing, right now, the highest death rates we have seen in the history of this business – not just at OneAmerica,” the company’s CEO Scott Davison said during an online news conference this week. “The data is consistent across every player in that business.”

"huge, huge numbers,” and that’s it’s not elderly people who are dying, but “primarily working-age people 18 to 64” who are the employees of companies that have group life insurance plans through OneAmerica.

“And what we saw just in third quarter, we’re seeing it continue into fourth quarter, is that death rates are up 40% over what they were pre-pandemic,” he said.

“Just to give you an idea of how bad that is, a three-sigma or a one-in-200-year catastrophe would be 10% increase over pre-pandemic,” he said. “So 40% is just unheard of.”

“primarily working-age people 18 to 64” who are the employees of companies that have group life insurance plans....."

"Most of the claims for deaths being filed are not classified as COVID-19 deaths, Davison said."

“What the data is showing to us is that the deaths that are being reported as COVID deaths greatly understate the actual death losses among working-age people from the pandemic.

hospitals across the state are being flooded with patients “with many different conditions,”

But the majority of ICU beds are not taken up by COVID-19 patients – just 37% are, while 54% of the ICU beds are being occupied by people with other illnesses or conditions.

No link.


Interesting.
 

Sorry, most egregious oversight in the OP as I forgot to include the link to the source:
https://www.thecentersquare.com/indiana ... 25e2c.html

freeman » 04 Jan 2022, 10:03 am » wrote: ↑

04 Jan 2022, 10:03 am

Sorry, most egregious oversight in the OP as I forgot to include the link to the source:
https://www.thecentersquare.com/indiana ... 25e2c.html

The resellers are accumulating.


We also have a separate report from "lifesitenews" distorting the very same source comments.


You people are **** morons.
 

razoo » 04 Jan 2022, 4:57 am » wrote: ↑

04 Jan 2022, 4:57 am

it's covid .......

From the link:

"The CDC weekly death counts, which reflect the information on death certificates and so have a lag of up to eight weeks or longer, show that for the week ending Nov. 6, there were far fewer deaths from COVID-19 in Indiana compared to a year ago – 195 verses 336 – but more deaths from other causes – 1,350 versus 1,319."
 

freeman » 04 Jan 2022, 10:08 am » wrote: ↑

04 Jan 2022, 10:08 am

From the link:

"The CDC weekly death counts, which reflect the information on death certificates and so have a lag of up to eight weeks or longer, show that for the week ending Nov. 6, there were far fewer deaths from COVID-19 in Indiana compared to a year ago – 195 verses 336 – but more deaths from other causes – 1,350 versus 1,319."

The author is a moron.

1) it's "versus"

2) A year ago TOTAL deaths were 1,655 (1319+336). This year there are 1545 (1,350+195). Unless you are 
@Vegas  , this CANNOT represent a 40% yoy INCREASE.

(For those to whom this needs be explained, and you know who you are....this is because this year's number is SMALLER than last year's..

Now nod)
 

IkeBana » 03 Jan 2022, 10:54 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Jan 2022, 10:54 pm

Yeh...sure. Let's make our heath decisions based on what the insurance pimp says.

The "insurance pimp" gave no medical advice, dick sucker. He left that to internet trolls like yourself.

Okay, virtue signaler - model your latest mask for us, you stupid faerie. Is it gonna be another pair of underwear, with prominent skid stain?

Go - VOGUE!
 

Blackvegetable » 04 Jan 2022, 9:47 am » wrote: ↑

04 Jan 2022, 9:47 am

It certainly is, you **** moron.

The comparison is not to the prior quarter, it is to "pre-pandemic".

The numbers being compared to pre-pandemic is not an actual diagnosis of covid, Petunia. 

I know that science is hard (for you). For example, YOU believe that science presents an infinite number of sexes  - all on a sliding scale, with change for a dollar. 

But that's not REALLY because science is hard. It's because you're stupid. 

The deaths are not covid deaths. But they ARE deaths. The Grim Reaper IS loosed in the land - with a vengeance. He's a-comin' for the stupid. 

And your mistake is upon you. Irreversible. Your comeuppance is afoot. I believe you can feel the Reaper's fingers at work. I believe you're scared - and you're trying to whistle your way past the graveyard. But maybe not. Maybe you're just stupid.

Blackvegetable » 04 Jan 2022, 10:06 am » wrote: ↑

04 Jan 2022, 10:06 am

The resellers are accumulating.

We also have a separate report from "lifesitenews" distorting the very same source comments.

You people are **** morons.

Yes yes - deaths are up 40% in demo-x over same quarter pre-pandemic is a rully rully confusing thing, fruity. 

Almost as confusing as sex and gender, you **** lollipop queen.   
 
 

Cannonpointer » 04 Jan 2022, 10:41 am » wrote: ↑

04 Jan 2022, 10:41 am

The numbers being compared to pre-pandemic is not an actual diagnosis of covid, Petunia. 

I know that science is hard (for you). For example, YOU believe that science presents an infinite number of sexes  - all on a sliding scale, with change for a dollar. 

But that's not REALLY because science is hard. It's because you're stupid. 

The deaths are not covid deaths. But they ARE deaths. The Grim Reaper IS loosed in the land - with a vengeance. He's a-comin' for the stupid. 

And your mistake is upon you. Irreversible. Your comeuppance is afoot. I believe you can feel the Reaper's fingers at work. I believe you're scared - and you're trying to whistle your way past the graveyard. But maybe not. Maybe you're just stupid.

That's right. It isn't about COVID deaths any more than cancer deaths or heart attack deaths. It is ALL CAUSE mortality, and it is accelerating even though the leaky, variant-creating, non-vaccines - that don't prevent becoming infected by or transmitting the virus - were supposed to save us.

While hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin could have ended the pandemic in the spring of 2020:
Secret formula eradicates COVID in India state of 230 million people

Found a couple of interesting related papers this morning:
https://chrismasterjohnphd.com/covid-19 ... mortality/
And a followup:
https://chrismasterjohnphd.com/blog/202 ... ase-deaths

There's good reason that Pfizer wants to hide their data over the next 55 years. They don't want to find themselves on trial for fraud and crimes against humanity.......again.

Lawsuit challenges Kaiser Permanente's mandate - hand in controlling CDC, FDA

UK Data Shows NO All-Cause Mortality Benefit for COVID-19 Vaccines
 

Cannonpointer » 04 Jan 2022, 10:43 am » wrote: ↑

04 Jan 2022, 10:43 am

Yes yes - deaths are up 40% in demo-x over same quarter pre-pandemic is a rully rully confusing thing, fruity. 

Almost as confusing as sex and gender, you **** lollipop queen. 

A year ago TOTAL deaths were 1,655 (1319+336). This year there are 1545 (1,350+195). Unless you are 
@Vegas  , this CANNOT represent a 40% yoy INCREASE.

(For those to whom this needs be explained, and you know who you are....this is because this year's number is SMALLER than last year's..

Now nod)

freeman » 04 Jan 2022, 11:01 am » wrote: ↑

04 Jan 2022, 11:01 am

That's right. It isn't about COVID deaths any more than cancer deaths or heart attack deaths. It is ALL CAUSE mortality, and it is accelerating even though the leaky, variant-creating, non-vaccines that don't stop becoming infected by or transmitting the virus were supposed to save us.

While ivermectin could have ended the pandemic in the spring of 2020:
Secret formula eradicates COVID in India state of 230 million people

Found a couple of interesting related papers this morning:
https://chrismasterjohnphd.com/covid-19 ... mortality/
And a followup:
https://chrismasterjohnphd.com/blog/202 ... ase-deaths

There's good reason that Pfizer wants to hide their data over the next 55 years. They don't want to find themselves on trial for fraud and crimes against humanity.......again.

Lawsuit challenges Kaiser Permanente's mandate - hand in controlling CDC, FDA

UK Data Shows NO All-Cause Mortality Benefit for COVID-19 Vaccines

Why are Non-COVID Deaths at Historic Highs in Indiana?

the reliable regurgitation of stupid, to idiots.

Blackvegetable » 04 Jan 2022, 11:09 am » wrote: ↑

04 Jan 2022, 11:09 am

A year ago TOTAL deaths were 1,655 (1319+336). This year there are 1545 (1,350+195). Unless you are 
@Vegas  , this CANNOT represent a 40% yoy INCREASE.

(For those to whom this needs be explained, and you know who you are....this is because this year's number is SMALLER than last year's..

Now nod)

I can't fix the fact that reporters are all a bunch of incompetent drunks whose reportage leaves much to be desired - any more than you can fix the fact that NPR and PBS confirm the story and the CDC's numbers confirm the 40% number. 

Now nod on that cock again. 

https://www.wfyi.org/news/articles/insu ... 40-percent
 

Cannonpointer » 04 Jan 2022, 11:21 am » wrote: ↑

04 Jan 2022, 11:21 am

I can't fix the fact that reporters are all a bunch of incompetent drunks whose reportage leaves much to be desired - any more than you can fix the fact that NPR and PBS confirm the story and the CDC's numbers confirm the 40% number. 

Now nod on that cock again. 

https://www.wfyi.org/news/articles/insu ... 40-percent

Why do you believe continuing to misrepresent the source comments changes any of the math, or the fact that the guy is SPECIFICALLY talking in the context of Covid?

 

Blackvegetable » 04 Jan 2022, 11:37 am » wrote: ↑

04 Jan 2022, 11:37 am

Why do you believe continuing to misrepresent the source comments changes any of the math, or the fact that the guy is SPECIFICALLY talking in the context of Covid?

The fellow quoted is very clearly speaking about all deaths. He's an insurance CEO, speaking about his industry. His comments are not political. They are not in reference to Covid. They are in reference to specific quarters, and YOY numbers. 

I have misrepresented nothing - I leave that to you, a dying fruitcake, and snopes, a dead fake-source. 
 

Cannonpointer » 04 Jan 2022, 11:41 am » wrote: ↑

04 Jan 2022, 11:41 am

The fellow quoted is very clearly speaking about all deaths. He's an insurance CEO, speaking about his industry. His comments are not political. They are not in reference to Covid. They are in reference to specific quarters, and YOY numbers. 

I have misrepresented nothing - I leave that to you, a dying fruitcake, and snopes, a dead fake-source.

Perhaps if, instead of sucking spam cock, you had read your own citation, you wouldn't be reaching for the holy water mouthdouche......again.


Davison said death rates among working age people – those 18 to 64-years-old – are up 40 percent in the third and fourth quarter of 2021 over pre-pandemic levels....

 He said the data shows COVID deaths are greatly understated among working age Americans....

 “Whether it’s long COVID or whether it’s because people haven’t been able to get the health care they need because the hospitals are overrun, we’re seeing those claims start to tick up as well,” he said.

 Because of this, insurance companies are beginning to add premium increases on employers in counties with low vaccination rates to cover the benefit payouts.

 
 

Blackvegetable » 04 Jan 2022, 11:50 am » wrote: ↑

04 Jan 2022, 11:50 am

Perhaps if, instead of sucking spam cock, you had read your own citation, you wouldn't be reaching for the holy water mouthdouche......again.

Davison said death rates among working age people – those 18 to 64-years-old – are up 40 percent in the third and fourth quarter of 2021 over pre-pandemic levels....

 He said the data shows COVID deaths are greatly understated among working age Americans....

 “Whether it’s long COVID or whether it’s because people haven’t been able to get the health care they need because the hospitals are overrun, we’re seeing those claims start to tick up as well,” he said.

 Because of this, insurance companies are beginning to add premium increases on employers in counties with low vaccination rates to cover the benefit payouts.

I read it. It confirms the numbers, fruity. Make of them what you will - as does the author. 

The harvest has begun, little egg. Yous are being gathered. What yous mumble while it happens matters not a whit to me, deathy-smell.

Cannonpointer » 04 Jan 2022, 11:56 am » wrote: ↑

04 Jan 2022, 11:56 am

I read it. It confirms the numbers, fruity. Make of them what you will - as does the author. 

The harvest has begun, little egg. Yous are being gathered. What yous mumble while it happens matters not a whit to me, deathy-smell.

https://youtu.be/NavzcV_gRiE

Blackvegetable » 04 Jan 2022, 11:58 am » wrote: ↑

04 Jan 2022, 11:58 am

More panty dancing...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TC-uPYyKSVQ
 

Cannonpointer » 04 Jan 2022, 11:41 am » wrote: ↑

04 Jan 2022, 11:41 am

The fellow quoted is very clearly speaking about all deaths. He's an insurance CEO, speaking about his industry. His comments are not political. They are not in reference to Covid. They are in reference to specific quarters, and YOY numbers. 

I have misrepresented nothing - I leave that to you, a dying fruitcake, and snopes, a dead fake-source.

Isn't it funny how the same people who want to give Pfizer a pass for all of the non-vaccine deaths and permanent disabilities, while excusing away Pfizer's hiding of vaccine their trial data for the next 55 years, suggest that Pfizer wouldn't want to hurt their reputation by producing a harmful product. This even though Pfizer has been found guilty of crimes against humanity and many other crimes in the past, but still continue on, because the same caliber of morally bankrupt people ignore Pfizer's criminal history.
Are those that get the "jab" even aware of Pfizer's history of criminal conduct?

The same corporate reprobates that were responsible for determining the "safety" of the non-vaccines are the same corporations that stand to profit from them while enjoying complete exemption from liability. No formula for disaster there, eigh?

These same idiots will run out and take Merck's new (cancer causing?) 30% effective COVID drug without hesitation, in spite of the half a million people Merck killed (though likely many more) with VIOXX.

Yet without hesitation these same blind fools defame the CEO of a $100 billion insurance company that has been around since 1877 for simply presenting an actuarial.
 
 

freeman » 04 Jan 2022, 12:27 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Jan 2022, 12:27 pm

Isn't it funny how the same people who want to give Pfizer a pass, while excusing away their hiding of vaccine trial data for the next 55 years, suggest that Pfizer wouldn't want to hurt their reputation by producing a harmful product, even though they have been found guilty of crimes against humanity and many other crimes in the past, but still continue on because the same caliber of morally bankrupt people ignore Pfizer's criminal history.
Are those that get the "jab" even aware of Pfizer's history of criminal conduct?

Yet without hesitation they defame the CEO of a $100 billion insurance company that has been around since 1877 for simply presenting an actuarial.

Yet without hesitation they defame the CEO of a $100 billion insurance company that has been around since 1877 for simply presenting an actuarial.

The only ones doing that are your resellers.