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Pengwin » 09 Jan 2022, 4:25 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Jan 2022, 4:25 pm

Fair enough.  Which vaccine?

Pfizer.

Famagusta » 09 Jan 2022, 4:10 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Jan 2022, 4:10 pm

Okay then. If you won’t stop your attention seeking lunacy, or maybe you’re bipolar - I don’t care; you’ll have no objection to my ignoring you from now on.

 post it THEN?
Liar!!!  a rash/ ffs..  I heard you had ANAL problems    

freeman » 09 Jan 2022, 2:31 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Jan 2022, 2:31 pm

So my question is, would forum members have gotten the jab if you had known that....

1. .....just a couple of months after getting the jabs, you were going to be told you would need a booster after 6 or 8 months?
While less than a year into it J&J, Pfizer and now even Moderna are saying a 4th jab may be needed.

2. .....the odds average of a person under 70 years old dying of COVID are 3 in 10,000, including morbidly obese diabetics with cancer?
And that's without the benefit of 99+% effective early treatment.
More on the odds.

3. .....instead of protecting Granny or others around them, they accomplished the exact opposite by being converted into Granny killers as receivers as well as stealth Typhoid Mary styled asymptomatic transmitters of COVID-19?
While unvaccinated have to be symptomatic in order to transmit COVID.

4. .....there were no animal trials before "vaccine" rollout, and that jab recipients are the test animals in the phase three trials of the unapproved, experimental, genetically engineered, chemically enhanced, innate immune response reprogramming, biological agents - the longer term consequences of which only God can know?

5. ......"vaccine" recipients run the risk of vaccine-enhanced disease,

1.  Yes.
2.  So **** what.
3.  Nobody knows that because it's ****.
4.  Scientists have been working on mRNA vaccines for decades, including animal testing.
5.   If COVID-19 vaccines caused ADE, people who are vaccinated against COVID-19 would have more severe disease. This is not happening. On the contrary, people who are vaccinated typically have very mild disease or none at all. In fact, the majority of COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. are people who aren't fully vaccinated. In May 2021, fully vaccinated people made up just 0.8% of COVID-19 deaths. That means 99.2% of COVID-19 deaths were in unvaccinated people.   - Nebraskamed.com

The OP is propaganda.

 
 

Famagusta » 09 Jan 2022, 4:26 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Jan 2022, 4:26 pm

Pfizer.

The joke is.. how did you pay for that..? so you claim  you were in the ICU? and told us... you had No symptoms? post your diagnoses!

Pengwin » 09 Jan 2022, 3:09 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Jan 2022, 3:09 pm

"Does anyone have "vaccine regret"?"

No.

And we've lost more than 1,000 aged 18 and under to this.  That's not 4 in a million.

Your claim is as false as it is unintelligible. This isn't difficult:
<18-year-olds have a 5 in 1 million chance of dying from COVID

Please follow along. I did update the ratio in response to a prior conversation with someone in this forum and have now changed the thread title. The original calc was done in May, but we have the benefit of two years of data now. The new estimate is closer to 5 in a million chance, but it wouldn't surprise me if the increase in rate is because of vaccine deaths, since the CDC counts deaths within 2 weeks of the second jab as being unvaxxed deaths.

From January 4, 2020 through December 25th of 2021, 803 kids from 0 to 18 years of age allegedly died of COVID-19 according to CDC data.
https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-C ... /nr4s-juj3

That's about 400 per year out of a population under 19 years old of 81,250,000. Or about 4 out of  810,250 or 1 in 200,000 or 5 in a million chance of a person under 19-years old dying of COVID, including morbidly obese diabetic kids with cancer.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/241 ... x-and-age/

Add at least a zero if a healthy kid has a 10 times better chance than a sick kid with cancer, would take it to 5 in 10,000,000.

That number also does not take into account 99+% effective early treatment including for those with comorbidities. Add a couple more zeros for the kid of properly prepared responsible parents, would take the healthy kid's odds up to as high as 5 out of 1,000,000,000

If you don't like that number which would be technically correct, knock off a zero and make it a 5 in a hundred million chance for a healthy kid under 19 dying of COVID.
 
 

freeman » 09 Jan 2022, 4:50 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Jan 2022, 4:50 pm

Your claim is as false as it is unintelligible. This isn't difficult:
<18-year-olds have a 4 in 1 million chance of dying from COVID

Please follow along. I did update the number in response to someone in this forum but didn't change the thread title. The original calc was done in May, but we have the benefit of two years of data now. The new estimate is closer to 5 in a million chance, but it wouldn't surprise me if the increase in rate is because of vaccine deaths, since the CDC counts deaths within 2 weeks of the second jab as being unvaxxed deaths.

From January 4, 2020 through December 25th of 2021, 803 kids from 0 to 18 years of age allegedly died of COVID-19 according to CDC data.
https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-C ... /nr4s-juj3

That's about 400 per year out of a population under 19 years old of 81,250,000. Or about 4 out of  810,250 or 1 in 200,000 chance of a person under 19-years old dying of COVID, including obese diabetic kids with cancer.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/241 ... x-and-age/

Bear in mind that that number includes morbidly obese diabetic kids with cancer. Add at least a zero if a healthy kid has a 10 times better chance than a sick kid with cancer, would take it to 5 in 10,000,000.

That number also does not take into account 99+% effective early treatment including for those with comorbidities. Add a couple more zeros for the kid of properly prepared responsible parents, would take the healthy kid's odds up to as high as 5 out of 1,000,000,000

0-4 years
250
5-18 years
573

823.  Do the math next time.
 

Pengwin » 09 Jan 2022, 4:59 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Jan 2022, 4:59 pm

0-4 years
250
5-18 years
573

823.  Do the math next time.

Fruitcake says nuh uh!

And everyone has to pretend fruitcake knows whereof he speaks.

At least, that's what fruitcake thinks. But we just laugh at fruitcake.

Cannonpointer » 09 Jan 2022, 5:08 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Jan 2022, 5:08 pm

Fruitcake says nuh uh!

And everyone has to pretend fruitcake knows whereof he speaks.

At least, that's what fruitcake thinks. But we just laugh at fruitcake.

Personally I think the "official stats" are so **** up they are meaningless.

To think they are convincing proof of anything is to be woefully naive.

Getting the vax:
My entire rationale was basically knowing I'm going over the Niagara Falls in a barrel.
Accepting it for my own reasons.
Hoping I land next to the Maid of the Mist to meet my people who had already gone over.
I did.

btw
No one among us is going for more shots. 2 or 3 is enough.
 

DeezerShoove » 09 Jan 2022, 5:21 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Jan 2022, 5:21 pm

Personally I think the "official stats" are so **** up they are meaningless.

To think they are convincing proof of anything is to be woefully naive.

Getting the vax:
My entire rationale was basically knowing I'm going over the Niagara Falls in a barrel.
Accepting it for my own reasons.
Hoping I land next to the Maid of the Mist to meet my people who had already gone over.
I did.

btw
No one among us is going for more shots. 2 or 3 is enough.

If I ever decide to take chances with my life it is not going to be to appease the state lol. Maybe I am just more hard headed than you. 

Pengwin » 09 Jan 2022, 4:59 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Jan 2022, 4:59 pm

0-4 years
250
5-18 years
573

823.  Do the math next time.

First you lie about 1,000 kids, and now I've no doubt that you would like to pretend that a discrepancy of 20 kids, would somehow nullify the math and point of the post.
Without even bothering to turn the calendar back to check the math, I had stated that my math was based on the CDC numbers as of December 25th.
How about yours?
 
I did the math. Try again.
 

Cannonpointer » 09 Jan 2022, 5:08 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Jan 2022, 5:08 pm

Fruitcake says nuh uh!

And everyone has to pretend fruitcake knows whereof he speaks.

At least, that's what fruitcake thinks. But we just laugh at fruitcake.

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freeman » 09 Jan 2022, 5:29 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Jan 2022, 5:29 pm

First you lie about 1,000 kids, and now I've no doubt that you would like to pretend that a discrepancy of 20 kids, would somehow nullify the math and point of the post.
Without even bothering to turn the calendar back to check the math, I had stated that my math was based on the CDC numbers as of December 25th.
How about yours?

20 dead kids later.  It's your **** link, check it before you post if you want people to trust your numbers.

And we don't have 100,000,000 aged 18 and under here.
 
 

FOS » 09 Jan 2022, 5:24 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Jan 2022, 5:24 pm

If I ever decide to take chances with my life it is not going to be to appease the state lol. Maybe I am just more hard headed than you.

You haven't read much of my **** story.

I bolded out a statement recently about vax vs not vax.
Something to the effect of:

I chose which would annoy me the least. 

Neither side of the decision made me quake in my boots.
There's enough **** on both sides of the story to be skeptical of it all.

Some people around me wanted it so I did it for them.
My apathy is as strong or stronger than your hardheadedness.  

DeezerShoove » 09 Jan 2022, 5:35 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Jan 2022, 5:35 pm

You haven't read much of my **** story.

I bolded out a statement recently about vax vs not vax.
Something to the effect of:

I chose which would annoy me the least. 

Neither side of the decision made me quake in my boots.
There's enough **** on both sides of the story to be skeptical of it all.

Some people around me wanted it so I did it for them.
My apathy is as strong or stronger than your hardheadedness.

There's always going to be **** on both sides of every story. 

But this country actually terrifies me. I dunno what their whole agenda is with this stupid vaccine but I do know they want everyone like me dead. 
 

Pengwin » 09 Jan 2022, 5:31 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Jan 2022, 5:31 pm

20 dead kids later.  It's your **** link, check it before you post if you want people to trust your numbers.

And we don't have 100,000,000 aged 18 and under here.

Look at what you quoted. My numbers were from December 25th.

Regarding your second sentence, nobody said there were.

DeezerShoove » 09 Jan 2022, 5:21 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Jan 2022, 5:21 pm

Personally I think the "official stats" are so **** up they are meaningless.

To think they are convincing proof of anything is to be woefully naive.

Getting the vax:
My entire rationale was basically knowing I'm going over the Niagara Falls in a barrel.
Accepting it for my own reasons.
Hoping I land next to the Maid of the Mist to meet my people who had already gone over.
I did.

btw
No one among us is going for more shots. 2 or 3 is enough.

Come come, now. In for a penny, in for a pound. 

To turn down more shots is a tacit admission of error. Can't have that. 
 

DeezerShoove » 09 Jan 2022, 5:35 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Jan 2022, 5:35 pm

You haven't read much of my **** story.

I bolded out a statement recently about vax vs not vax.
Something to the effect of:

I chose which would annoy me the least. 

 

Wouldn't getting a bunch more be less annoying? If not, why not?

Something isn't adding up.
 

FOS » 09 Jan 2022, 5:38 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Jan 2022, 5:38 pm

There's always going to be **** on both sides of every story. 

But this country actually terrifies me. I dunno what their whole agenda is with this stupid vaccine but I do know they want everyone like me dead.

Paul Mooney, black stand up comedian, said,
"We need you white guys around so you can keep making white women."

 

freeman » 09 Jan 2022, 5:39 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Jan 2022, 5:39 pm

Look at what you quoted. My numbers were from December 25th.

Regarding your second sentence, nobody said there were.

1. Use current numbers if you link to a site with them.

2. You mentioned the number to get to 5 in a million, not me.

DeezerShoove » 09 Jan 2022, 5:44 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Jan 2022, 5:44 pm

Paul Mooney, black stand up comedian, said,
"We need you white guys around so you can keep making white women."

Doesn't this joke imply that there is some heritability to traits in human beings?