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I read just today that Lake Powell has lost 100 feet of water in the last 3 years. If it loses 32 more feet it will not be able to produce hydroelectric power for close to 6 million homes in the West. Of course, that would mean those customers would need to switch to fossuel fuels like natural gas.
The world fossil fuel energy Markets have always been spotty, up and down and never reliable, not to mention the pollution they create, and of course the climate change which drives more drought.
We have watched collectively how the fossuel fuel companies have orchestrated nonsensical propaganda to create uncertanty about climate change allowing our government leaders to not take the necessary action for the last forty years. And yes, this has created wars in distant places, enabled dictators to stay in power and aided corruption as well as human rights abuses again and again.
The dream of creating a better world has been constantly clouded over with so much nonsense to no knowable end.
I confess to truly not understanding just how we as a people continue to allow this to stand when we have the tools to right the course.
I stand with people like Elizabeth Warren and others who want to fight back. This whole issue is about common sense and doing what is right for our nation and the world as whole.
We need to spend trillions, yes trillions, to rebuild our energy grid and switch to renewable energy as fast as humanly possible. We need top level federal leaders who are not political appointees to make the decisions that need to be made.
We need to look at the fundamental issues at hand - energy efficiency / using less.
Reduction of Food waste -
Soil revitalization -
Fresh water conservation, cover reservours with solar panels, etc... -
End to Nuclear weapon stock piles -
If nuclear power is required find a way to store waste and make it safe or don't use it -
Energy storage in efficient ways that does not harm the environment, If you make it build in a way to not harm the environment once it needs to be replaced -
Computer waste deal with it up front -
Computer bugs ,fix it before its sold -
Stop the plastic packaging -
These are just some of the things, and they are not easy, but they are definitely more than possible.

The point is - the crazyness you speak of B. See has detrimental effects for us all!

OlderGuy » 30 Apr 2022, 7:50 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Apr 2022, 7:50 pm

I read just today that Lake Powell has lost 100 feet of water in the last 3 years. If it loses 32 more feet it will not be able to produce hydroelectric power for close to 6 million homes in the West. Of course, that would mean those customers would need to switch to fossuel fuels like natural gas.
The world fossil fuel energy Markets have always been spotty, up and down and never reliable, not to mention the pollution they create, and of course the climate change which drives more drought.
We have watched collectively how the fossuel fuel companies have orchestrated nonsensical propaganda to create uncertanty about climate change allowing our government leaders to not take the necessary action for the last forty years. And yes, this has created wars in distant places, enabled dictators to stay in power and aided corruption as well as human rights abuses again and again.
The dream of creating a better world has been constantly clouded over with so much nonsense to no knowable end.
I confess to truly not understanding just how we as a people continue to allow this to stand when we have the tools to right the course.
I stand with people like Elizabeth Warren and others who want to fight back. This whole issue is about common sense and doing what is right for our nation and the world as whole.
We need to spend trillions, yes trillions, to rebuild our energy grid and switch to renewable energy as fast as humanly possible. We need top level federal leaders who are not political appointees to make the decisions that need to be made.
We need to look at the fundamental issues at hand - energy efficiency / using less.
Reduction of Food waste -
Soil revitalization -
Fresh water conservation, cover reservours with solar panels, etc... -
End to Nuclear weapon stock piles -
If nuclear power is required find a way to store waste and make it safe or don't use it -
Energy storage in efficient ways that does not harm the environment, If you make it build in a way to not harm the environment once it needs to be replaced -
Computer waste deal with it up front -
Computer bugs ,fix it before its sold -
Stop the plastic packaging -
These are just some of the things, and they are not easy, but they are definitely more than possible.

The point is - the crazyness you speak of B. See has detrimental effects for us all!

It certainly DOES, O.G.  And unfortunately, the right seems to THRIVE on crazy. The crazier the BETTER.

Your thoughts are most appreciated, my friend.

Mull? MULL?????? You mean you really have to think about calling them out for who and what they are??

C'mon guys.

Biden, Democrats mull running against the fascists by defining them as fascists. Yes, please

President Joe Biden and congressional Democrats are mulling the idea of using the contrast between them and the Trump-loving, fascist, insurrectionist Republicans in 2022’s midterm elections and, well, yes. IT’S ABOUT GODDAMNED TIME! 

That might indicate that there’s just a smidgen of urgency among Democrats who hold the Congress and the White House that democracy is hanging by a pretty thin thread. Maybe we should be talking about that right now ahead of an election that could bring the fascists to power and end America as we know it.
 
 

ON BRINGING KNIVES TO A GUNFIGHT (or WHY DEMOCRATS NEED TO BE AS FANATICAL ABOUT PRESERVING DEMOCRACY AS THE MAGA RIGHT IS FOR DESTROYING IT:
.Once again a heinous act shows America’s disparities. Democrats are asleep at the wheel!

Democrats need to listen to the left

Biden, Sinking in U.S. Polls, Seen in Europe As Rising Star for Democracy

Biden incredulously calls Mitch McConnell 'rational' -- and a former GOP insider explains why he's dead wrong 

Black activist calls for Democrats to demolish Republicans 'from the top of the ticket on down'

You Can’t Run on Defending Democracy if You Allow Democracy To Be Undermined

Hillary Clinton: Mainstream Media Does Not Call Out Lies

CNN guest slams 'feckless Democrats' not following through with investigations of Trump
 

MeidasTouch Video Takes On Conservative Lies Head-OnThe video is by James Killen and titled, Former Conservative issues URGENT MESSAGE to Young Conservatives. It's the kind of direct confrontation of right wing nonsense that is extremely necessary right now. It's worth a watch, a recommend, and a forward to every Conservative you know.
. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS-_mapaDhk Democrat attacks 'Unamerican people like Donald Trump and Rudy Giuliani' - Raw Story

Column: The real lesson of the Jan. 6 committee? Stop electing Trump sycophants to Congress

New Poll Finds 6 in 10 US Adults Support Prosecuting Trump for January 6 Capitol Attack – Mother Jones
 

ON BRINGING KNIVES TO A GUNFIGHT (ONE WRITER'S POINT OF VIEW)

I'm Afraid Younger Progressives Are Correct About the Democratic "Gerontocracy."

There is a lot of righteous anger about the reactionary Republican Supreme Court’s elimination of a woman’s right to control her own body.  And some of that anger is being directed at both President Biden and the Democratic political leadership in the Congress. 

There is a divide between the reaction of Democratic political leaders and Democratic voters, especially with younger more progressive voters.  I am seeing a number of tweets and articles about the Democratic “Gerontocracy.”  And before anyone starts talking about ageism, I want to say that I agree that our Democratic leaders are a gerontocracy.

The inital responses from Democratic leaders over the SCOTUS overturning Roe was just weak tea at best.  At worst, I find it stupid and pathetic.  It is stupid because Democratic leaders are stuck in a time period that no longer exists, and they refuse to change their political strategies or tactics.

• President Biden has ruled out expanding the Supreme Court.  If we do not expand the Supreme Court, the reactionary Republican partisans will just keep striking down any laws that the Congress might pass and Biden signs into law.  Only by adding four more justices could we hope to have a Supreme Court that will not strike down progressive bills that expand rights and freedoms.
• Clyburn’s “anti-climatic” remark was dismissive to put it mildy.  I knew this was coming, but it is still a SHOCK to anyone with a conscience.  How will Clyburn feel when the rest of the Voting Rights Act is destroyed by this Supreme Court?  I wager he will not feel “anti-climatic” when we have election nullification and POC lose voting protections.  
• Singing “God Bless America” for a extremely modest gun safety bill that has a shelf life of zero thanks to another SCOTUS decision to strike down the ability of states to regulate concealed weapons laws is just too mind numbingly pathetic for words.  The Court made it easier for any asshole to get a gun now.  There will be more gun deaths now not less.  So what are you celebrating for?  Democrats act like they are getting a scrap from the Republican dinner table, only to have the dog get to the scrap first with the help of the SCOTUS.
• Congress will not be called back from recess.  They may get around to havings some hearings next month when they come back.  No rush here.

Women and others are going to die because of what the SCOTUS has done.  But I do not see any sense of urgency from Biden or the Congress.  Sounds tough, but it is true.
 

MORE KNIVES BROUGHT TO THE GUNFIGHT (OR, WAKE THE **** UP, DEMOCRATS!)

MSNBC panel demands Dems step up for women: Use Roe 'to make Republicans pay for this'​ - Raw Story

Activists warn top Democrats: 'Conventional politics WILL NOT get us out of this mess'

“It’s not enough to tell people to vote”: Omar calls to investigate justices who “lied under oath” | Salon.com

Ana Kasparian: GOP is 'Absolute Garbage But Rips Dems on Roe

Democrats, here's a thought: Stop retreating. Stand up for your own voters for once - Raw Story

DEPT OF WTF???????

Biden May Nominate Anti-Abortion Lawyer For Judgeship In Deal With McConnell: Reports | HuffPost Latest News

“Betrayal”: Biden cut deal with McConnell to appoint “extremist” anti-abortion judge, Democrat says | Salon.com

The Biden-McConnell Deal to Make an Anti-Abortion Advocate a Federal Judge Is Still On New details of the controversial Kentucky compromise that has enraged Democrats.

**** Keeps Flying In KY Over Biden's Deal With McConnell To Appoint An Anti-Abortion Lawyer As Judge

Biden's awful, embarrassing deal with McConnell just keeps getting worse

Kentucky's Democratic governor says it would be 'indefensible' for Biden to nominate an anti-abortion Republican to a lifetime federal judgeship

ON THE FLIP SIDE:

Democrats: We aren't Perfect, but they are **** Evil: Saturday's GNR

Let’s Travel to a Magical Land Where a Party Stands Up to Its Buffoonish Leader – Mother Jones

America Still Perceived By Many As Beacon Of Democracy: Poll
 
 

ON BRINGING KNIVES TO A GUNFIGHT (CONTINUED - OR WAKE THE FK UP)

Democrats Better Wake Up When It Comes To the Courts

Democrats need to fill a lot of judicial vacancies fast, which means no more deals with McConnell

Newsom Calls on Democrats to 'Wake Up' to GOP 'Ruthlessness'

ALSO:

U.S. is a flawed democracy — if you’re being nice about it | The Sacramento Bee

Tiffany Cross on the Fall of Democracy: Maybe Nation Built on Stolen Land with Stolen Labor Was Not a Republic ‘We Could Keep’

Meanwhile, here's a story I found on FUX and was also carried by several other Conservative online rags. But no centrist or liberal sources. Which cause ME to wonder why the heck NOT?  After all, is Nance NOT merely owning up to the kind of MENTALITY we, in America, may ultimately be FORCED TO DEFEND ourselves against??

Malcolm Nance says Republicans are ‘insurgency’ looking to kill ‘neighbors’: 'We may have to fight them' | Fox News

DEPT OF WTF??

Biden Drops Judicial Nomination of Anti-Abortion Lawyer. The Reason Why Will Make Dems’ Blood Boil. – Mother Jones
 

IN NEWS REPORTS OF THE PAST WEEKS

there were indications that some Democrats were souring on Biden.

Which, I guess is to be expected, not only when the MAGA Senate along with two Democrats who side with THEM more often than with YOU, stall and obstruct your INITIATIVES.

But what DIDN'T help was that even in the face of all that, Biden still spoke of obstructionist, Moscow Mitch, as "a reasonable person" still defended the filibuster (that is, until it was TOO late to oppose it) and still ruled out a SCOTUS expansion.  And then there was that "deal" Biden made with Mitch to nominate an staunch anti-abortion lawyers, which only fell through NOT because of Democrat objections, but a REPUBLICAN one.

Joe Biden Loses Base as Black Voters Want Different 2024 Candidate: Poll

Joe Biden Gives Saudi Arabia’s Crown Prince A Terrifying Gift: Invulnerability | HuffPost Latest News

Biden Administration Plans Could End Border Wall Park Where Loved Ones Interact

People *really* don't want Joe Biden to run again - CNNPolitics

Frankly, I think Biden's main problem is the same one Obama had, even though I support them both, over the festering hate filled ogre of the ALTERNATIVES:  Problem being they both are nice guys.  TOO nice.

And the MAGA RIGHT doesn't RESPECT nice.

On the FLIP SIDE though, as of end of last week there seems to be some progress on something actually, POSSIBLY getting done, because of a REPORTED change of heart by Joe Manchin.

I say, REPORTED. Fact IS, I'LL BELIEVE IT WHEN I SEE IT.

'We'll believe it when we see it pass': Skeptics are leary Schumer-Manchin deal -- here's why - Raw Story

AND THEN THERE'S THIS:

CNN Poll: MAJOR Shift Toward the Democrats. Seniors move from +25R to +2D!!! Women +11D!!!

Biden and Harris Would Both Beat Either Trump or DeSantis in 2024: Poll

Kamala Harris Would Beat Ron DeSantis in 2024 Election: Poll

GOP Support Among Seniors, a Key Trump Base, Drops Dramatically: Poll

AND THIS:

Half of Republicans Don't Want Trump to Run in 2024: Poll | PEOPLE.com

...stay tuned.
 

We need to get climate bill passed.
The bill is good for Americans and the world,
and this will play out, albeit not immediately.
If the Replicans take the house they will
hold hearings like there is no tomorrow on ****.
But Biden is president for 2 more years no matter what.
That means the bill will remain, if it is passed.
And people will see finally start to see its worth.
In total worth.

OlderGuy » 30 Jul 2022, 11:25 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2022, 11:25 pm

We need to get climate bill passed.
The bill is good for Americans and the world,
and this will play out, albeit not immediately.
If the Replicans take the house they will
hold hearings like there is no tomorrow on ****.
But Biden is president for 2 more years no matter what.
That means the bill will remain, if it is passed.
And people will see finally start to see its worth.
In total worth.

I agree OG. In fact there are and WERE MANY bills that America needed passed, that would have been good for Americans and the world.

Fact is, there were HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS of bills, passed by the House, MANY of which were BIPARTISAN that sat DEAD on Mitch McConnell's desk while he GLOATED over that fact.

Here is are articles (from my archive of thousands of articles) from December 2019, detailing more than FOUR HUNDRED dead ended bills, way back THEN:

You know that trainload of hundreds of bills Senate Republicans have blocked? Here's a linked list

House Democrats have passed hundreds of bills. Trump and Republicans are ignoring them - Vox
 
How MANY MORE suffered the SAME fate, since?
 

FOR A CHANGE, GOOD NEWS, AMERICA:

Michael Langley: US Senate expected to confirm Marines' first Black four-star general in 246 years - CNNPolitics

Democratic lawmakers introduce bill to make reproductive health care more accessible to women with disabilities | The Hill

Good inflation news: Online shopping prices are suddenly falling fast | CNN Business

Joe Biden Approval Rating Boosted Ahead of Midterms: Poll

"Dark Brandon" meme, explained: How Democrats took it over.

No, You’re Not Dreaming. Congress Really Is on the Verge of Actually DOING Something for the Planet. – Mother Jones

Mitch McConnell and 25 Other Republicans Issue Statement Supporting Nancy Pelosi’s Trip to Taiwan

Watch 13,000+ Black women cheer VP Kamala Harris as she issues a call to activism in Orlando


MEANWHILE, GEE, YOU THINK??

Democrats wonder if they should start pointing out that Republicans are extremists

Fans revolt as "The View" adds two Republicans as co-hosts for new season - Salon.com

 

Since my allowed character count has gone from 4000 to 2000 (for reasons unknown to me) I'll have to post these next topics in sections I guess.

TRUTH TO POWER - POWER TO TRUTH:

Get a Backbone, Democrats! | Opinion

Donald Trump is a singular force in American and world affairs—a malevolent, seat-of-the-pants political savant whose real-world influence has waned surprisingly little since he was dragged, scratching and biting, from the Oval Office. If anything, the recent FBI raid on his Florida home adds to his populist street cred.

The January 6 hearings have made it clear that Donald Trump sought to overturn a fair election that he and his team knew he had lost. If the institutions of American democracy do not now have the capacity to make an example—one as blunt and unforgettable as the man himself—it will be a turning point. The 20th century showed what happens when demagogues are confronted with timidity. What a tragedy it would be if our capacity to remember extended only a single lifetime.

AND:

Malcolm Nance Interview: The Bastards Who Want to Murder Americans – Smashing Interviews Magazine

History lecturer explains how the GOP agenda could be even more extreme under a second Trump term - Alternet.org
 

CONTINUED FROM ABOVE, AND NOW THE GOOD NEWS:

Senate forecast moved 10 points towards DEMS in last 2 weeks

Biden administration task force reunites 400 migrant families separated under Trump

Biden administration says 'Remain in Mexico' policy is over

Biden signs PACT Act providing care to veterans after burn pits exposure, praises Jon Stewart for advocacy | The Independent

Biden ACCURATELY said there was zero inflation in July — The GOP went apoplectic  (translation: "lost their ****")

Ilhan Omar fends off primary challenger boosted by right-wing PAC money and "nasty attacks" | Salon.com

Here's a grassroots group working to save our democracy

Dark Brandon strikes again: POTUS shuts down Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp's plan to block access to ACA

It's too much for me to read, but I do agree with some of the original posters.

Can anyone please sum up?

one paragraph should be good to get me going...

I think it's going to sound like this....

Republicans said this!!!!

Democrats said this!!!!!

We all hate each other!!!!!!

No agreement will ever happen!!!!!!

AAAAGHHH.......

Let's vote for another president, he'll change it!!!!

lol, yeah, that's how I look at you peeps! :-) 
 
Seriously! 

Now if you really want to change ****, I'm the one to talk to...

If you just want to argue endlessly, then fook me..., and keep doing what you're doing! You're not going to make a change in this world.

Otherwise, let's talk about religion and politics.

Because that is a truly evil combination that has been messing with humanity for almost 5000 years.