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Justthetruth » 01 Feb 2023, 4:39 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Feb 2023, 4:39 pm

Biden did the right thing and let putin play his cards.

Russia and now China are on notice.

You cant he weak in front of this people or they will walk all over you.

do you rhink that taiwan wants to end up like ukraine with america sending weapons to fight china?

jerrab » 01 Feb 2023, 4:53 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Feb 2023, 4:53 pm

do you rhink that taiwan wants to end up like ukraine with america sending weapons to fight china?

nope it will be different alot different. Boots on the ground different. 

Justthetruth » 01 Feb 2023, 4:28 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Feb 2023, 4:28 pm

You seem to think Biden had control over Ukraine like a puppet state. 

What gives you that impression?

Why should biden tell ukraine that they could not?

it has been known for years that ukraine cannot join nato and biden should have said that at the get go. the only thing he did was piss russia off.

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Analysts say it’s widely known that Ukraine had no prospect of entering NATO for many years, possibly decades, because of its need for major democracy and anti-corruption reforms and because NATO has no interest in going to war with Russia over Ukraine’s Donbas region, where Russia has meddled and backed armed conflict for years. But by dangling the possibility of Ukraine’s NATO membership for years but never fulfilling it, NATO created a scenario that emboldened Ukraine to act tough and buck Russia — without any intention of directly defending Ukraine with its firepower if Moscow decided Ukraine had gone too far.

Justthetruth » 01 Feb 2023, 4:56 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Feb 2023, 4:56 pm

nope it will be different alot different. Boots on the ground different.

omigod.

is that biden's next step?

jerrab » 01 Feb 2023, 4:53 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Feb 2023, 4:53 pm

do you rhink that taiwan wants to end up like ukraine with america sending weapons to fight china?

That is EXACTLY what the US is doing!!!

Document reveals $14 billion backlog of US defense transfers to Taiwan
By Bryant Harris
 
Apr 14, 2022

https://www.defensenews.com/pentagon/20 ... to-taiwan/
 
 

You can not show weakness to Russia or China or these terrorists.

The only thing they respect is death.

Justthetruth » 01 Feb 2023, 5:04 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Feb 2023, 5:04 pm

You can not show weakness to Russia or China or these terrorists.

The only thing they respect is death.

Death to libs

You cant show weakness to these terrorist or Russia and China.

The only thing they respect is strength and a hot bullet.

Neo » 27 Jan 2022, 9:27 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jan 2022, 9:27 am

I think Russia wants security guarantees that they were promised before dropping the iron curtain.  We agreed to not expand nato one inch eastward, we reneged on that promise. Ukraine is their red line.

true

jerra b » 01 Feb 2023, 3:47 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Feb 2023, 3:47 pm

in ten words or less, what did biden do or say to try to prevent a war.
 

not a thing, sure I could have used nothing.

Neo » 27 Jan 2022, 9:27 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jan 2022, 9:27 am

I think Russia wants security guarantees that they were promised before dropping the iron curtain.  We agreed to not expand nato one inch eastward, we reneged on that promise. Ukraine is their red line.

***********************************************************NATO was originally formed as a military and political alliance between the U.S., Canada and several Western European nations in 1949. It was meant to serve as a collective defense organization to contain the Soviet Union during the Cold War, and its most important provision, Article 5, held that an attack on one member of the alliance was an attack against all of them.In 1990, the West led the Soviets to believe NATO would not expand further eastward across Europe in exchange for Germany reunification and the agreement that the new Germany would be a NATO member. Most famously, U.S. Secretary of State James Baker once assured Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev that the NATO alliance would move “not one inch eastward” in exchange for this agreement, but as the late Princeton University scholar Stephen Cohen pointed out in 2018, this pledge was in fact made multiple times by several Western countrie

Nostradamus'omh » 01 Feb 2023, 3:38 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Feb 2023, 3:38 pm

not irresistible. Apathy is how I defeat passion of love and hate, envy and ego. Arrogance comes from geting away with self deception, ego arrives getting others to believe they aren't equal to one's intellect.

When I sense my emotions getting triggered I go instinctive and defend the time I have left those I leave behind mutually evolving here equally alive sharing being alive as eternally separated in plain sight. That equality thing.

You never discuss that part of evolving, why? keeping a secret on need to know from equally evolving people?

Oh look at the next post? was that an attempt to trigger my resonse again. will I or won't I take the bait? Regardless if I do or don't everyone else wins and I still speak gibberish.

Oh this isn't the losing battle thread, my bad. It all works series parallel connected to me.

I didn't understand the question. "That part of evolving..."
You mean equality? Not sure how that fits into evolving.

Speaking of series parallel, I have to wire some LED's in my house.
Try getting along with others. They are fellow blobs in the universe after all.

You gotta show these people strength terrorist like ashi babbitt.

China and Russia.
.the only thing they fear is death.

Here's and interesting little tidbit for all you leftist warmongers:

It’s TOO LATE for NATO to win the war against Russia… here’s why

Wednesday, February 01, 2023

by: Mike Adams

Tags: battle tanks, defense industry, deindustrialization, Joe Biden, munitions, NATO, Pentagon, Putin, Russia, supply chain, Ukraine, War, weapons, world war

Image: It’s TOO LATE for NATO to win the war against Russia… here’s why
(Natural News) While the prostituted propaganda media absurdly claims that Russia is retreating and NATO forces are winning the war in Ukraine, the truth is far more sobering: NATO has already lost the war with Russia. Here’s how we know:

A land war with a major military power is a long, drawn out slug fest that requires the sustained expenditure of enormous quantities of munitions: Artillery shells, rockets, missiles, small arms cartridges and so on.

To supply these munitions, a fighting force needs to be backed by a strong munitions manufacturing infrastructure or have huge stockpiles that can sustain the war while supplies are depleted. The United States has neither. No sufficiently large stockpiles and no existing munitions manufacturing infrastructure that can keep pace with Russia, which at times has expended up to 20,000 artillery rounds per day. (Note: The existing munitions infrastructure in the United States can’t even churn out that many rounds in a full month of production…)

Consider this recent article from Breitbart.com: Endless Arms Flow to Ukraine Raises Worry over U.S. Military Readiness Against China, which warns that U.S. precision-guided munitions would run out in just one week:

A recently-published think-tank analysis warned that as it currently stands, the U.S. would run out of long-range, precision-guided munitions in a war with China over Taiwan in less than a week — a problem that author Seth Jones called one of “empty bins.”

“The United States has been slow to replenish its arsenal, and the DoD has only placed on contract a fraction of the weapons it has sent to Ukraine,” Jones, a senior vice president at the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) wrote.

The USA lacks raw materials and a labor pool to operate munitions factories at scale
Even more importantly, to manufacture such munitions — even if you have the infrastructure factories that can churn them out — you must have: 1) Raw materials (metals, circuit boards, cotton linters, etc.) and 2) A labor pool that is sufficiently educated and motivated to work in factories.

If you’ve never heard of cotton linters, they’re a critical component needed for the manufacture of artillery rounds. The primary source is China, and China’s exports on cotton linters are currently nine months behind schedule, causing havoc with Germany’s munitions manufacturing

Full article here:

https://www.naturalnews.com/2023-02-01- ... ussia.html
 

IOW, the US does not have the materials needed nor the manufacturing capability to make munitions fast enough to replace those that would be expended in about a week in a war with the Chinese. We have outsourced most manufacturing to the Chinese.

You gotta put a bullet in them to make them understand

Sort of like ashi babbitt.

Justthetruth » 01 Feb 2023, 4:26 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Feb 2023, 4:26 pm

What control does Biden have over a Ukraine. 

Why should Biden tell Ukraine what to do?

if  trump was president all this time and the war going on the way it is, you would be screaming your head off.

I don't care who is president, I am not going to agree just because of party lines.

that is the problem with america, presidents rely on support from their party and do not even try to get things right.
 

the president says that boys are girls and everyone in  his party agree with him.
 

Justthetruth » 01 Feb 2023, 4:26 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Feb 2023, 4:26 pm

What control does Biden have over a Ukraine. 

Why should Biden tell Ukraine what to do?

Biden literally told Putin it was okay to invade. 

Biden is starting WW3. And all liberals do is stand around an clap like the trained seals that they are. 
 

Deezer Shoove » 01 Feb 2023, 6:02 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Feb 2023, 6:02 pm

I didn't understand the question. "That part of evolving..."
You mean equality? Not sure how that fits into evolving.

Speaking of series parallel, I have to wire some LED's in my house.
Try getting along with others. They are fellow blobs in the universe after all.

evolving happens with each reproduction coexisting at the same time different displacements ancestrally positioned directly positioned in ancestral order of the remaining 8 billion occupying space now and you can break them down by the numbers and DNA alignment arrived to arrival of each great great grandchild replacing all previous generation gaps added their conception.

Erengy cannot be createdor destroy as it flows the paths of least resistance in several forms separate but working at the same time. there are 6 electrical currents, 7 bandwiths of light, molecular table table of periodic elements migrating between forms shape universlaly present inorganically and ancestrally arriving after inorganic displacements erode and organic replacements decompose recyinging the subatomic saturation between universal positions perpeptually balancing attaching to the nuclei of decomposed corpses returning to molecular characteristics before eroded over and over again sustaining evolution going on here now.

that brief enough explanation how eternity works in plain sight your reality ignored for 400 generations. How corruption start was simply never accept now is eternity and it branched out there to become alternate realities and parallel universe concepts of we cannot believe life is self containe dto adapting to space timed apart now.

this body of mine only exists once, the content of this form existed since the universe became perpetually balancing outcomes never the same twice here again. Physical eternity has always been the moment here.

the deniable actual evolving process in plain sight.

Dare you to say this has nothing to do with Russia and Ukraine? Butterfly effect, karma, Satan's revenge, God's wrath, Mother Nature eliminating chaos by having all sides take themselves out because they won';t stay balanced within adapt or become extinct Natural World Order.

the Iron Fist of Father Time is stationary and things evolving compounding into a new total sum forward from existed so far. Simplicity is best understood not denied.