So I totally expect Russia to invade Ukraine.

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By Crazytrain
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Head’s Up, State Dept Operative and USAID Administrator Samantha Power is in Hungary, Seeding Another Color Revolution – Deep State Ukraine 2.0


February 12, 2023 | Sundance


Hungary has been in the crosshairs of the Biden/Obama administration ever since Prime Minister Viktor Orban refused to align with the WEF Western Democracies in their quest for regime change in Russia. As the NATO led western alliance assembled to use Ukraine as a proxy war against Russia, Hungarian Prime Minister Orban would not join.


In early April 2022, Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban was overwhelmingly reelected {LINK}, despite the massive efforts against him by the European Union, western and euro-centric multinational globalists. As a result of the victory, Brussels was furious at the Hungarian people. Associated Press – […] “Orban — a fierce critic of immigration, LGBTQ rights and “EU bureaucrats” — has garnered the admiration of right-wing nationalists across Europe and North America.” (link)


Within the statements reported from his 2022 victory speech, Prime Minister Orban warned citizens of the NATO and western allied countries about the manipulation of Ukraine and how he views the Zelenskyy regime: […] “while speaking to supporters on Sunday, Orban singled out Zelenskyy as part of the “overwhelming force” that he said his party had struggled against in the election — “the left at home, the international left, the Brussels bureaucrats, the Soros empire with all its money, the international mainstream media, and in the end, even the Ukrainian president.” (link)


This put Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban in the crosshairs of the western alliance, specifically the EU and U.S. bureaucrats who use their power, position and intelligence apparatus to manipulate foreign nations. A year later and now we see USAID Administrator Samantha Power in Hungary openly discussing her seeding of the NGO’s and political activist systems in order to generate yet another color revolution. {Direct Rumble Link} – WATCH:


Samantha Power, the wife of Cass Sunstein, is well known as the Obama/Biden administration’s advance operative who uses her position in U.S.
government to influence activism in targeted nations. Hungary is now her target.



https://theconservativetreehouse.com/bl ... raine-2-0/


Watch the video!!! The bitch is there to stir up ****!!!
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Crazytrain » 27 Jan 2022, 6:33 am » wrote: I see no deal here. And Biden isn't in the mood to make bad deals. Russia will enslave Ukraine.

At the time, I didn't think Putin would do it
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Crazytrain » 27 Jan 2022, 6:33 am » wrote: I see no deal here. And Biden isn't in the mood to make bad deals. Russia will enslave Ukraine.
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jerrab » 13 Feb 2023, 1:42 pm » wrote: you have not provided one shred of proof that russia would have invaded ukraine if biden had said ukraine can't join nato, which it can't. biden shoud have done all he can to  prevent an invasion instead he dared russia when he said he would give weapons to ukraine.
You haven't provided one shred of proof that he wouldn't have. Let's not forget that the (fraudulent) purpose put forth by Putin for this invasion was allegedly to "stop Nazism" in Ukraine. That was ****.

As I've said, the taking of Ukraine has always been a part of the plan. So has Russia's efforts to divide and conquer America via fomenting division and via allegiance to right wing and white supremacist elements in the US. The allegiance between Russia and these elements in the US has existed for over a decade now. A US based white nationalist group even created a Russian language website to improve relationships between these "natural" allies.

Look it up for yourself (assuming you don't already know). 

The Foundations of Geopolitics: The Geopolitical Future of Russia
Russian Imperial Movement 
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B.See » 13 Feb 2023, 10:07 pm » wrote: You haven't provided one shred of proof that he wouldn't have. Let's not forget that the (fraudulent) purpose put forth by Putin for this invasion was allegedly to "stop Nazism" in Ukraine. That was ****.

As I've said, the taking of Ukraine has always been a part of the plan. So has Russia's efforts to divide and conquer America via fomenting division and via allegiance to right wing and white supremacist elements in the US. The allegiance between Russia and these elements in the US has existed for over a decade now. A US based white nationalist group even created a Russian language website to improve relationships between these "natural" allies.

Look it up for yourself (assuming you don't already know). 

The Foundations of Geopolitics: The Geopolitical Future of Russia
Russian Imperial Movement
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B.See » 13 Feb 2023, 10:07 pm » wrote: You haven't provided one shred of proof that he wouldn't have. Let's not forget that the (fraudulent) purpose put forth by Putin for this invasion was allegedly to "stop Nazism" in Ukraine. That was ****.

As I've said, the taking of Ukraine has always been a part of the plan. So has Russia's efforts to divide and conquer America via fomenting division and via allegiance to right wing and white supremacist elements in the US. The allegiance between Russia and these elements in the US has existed for over a decade now. A US based white nationalist group even created a Russian language website to improve relationships between these "natural" allies.

Look it up for yourself (assuming you don't already know). 

The Foundations of Geopolitics: The Geopolitical Future of Russia
Russian Imperial Movement
you can't sit there and say that putin would have invaded even if biden said that the truth that ukraine cannot join nato,

if biden had said that and russia invaded anyway, then that would be proof.

you can't prove a positive with a negative.

biden should have tried to avoid the war with earnest peace talks instead of just daring putin into a war.
 
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jerrab » 13 Feb 2023, 10:59 pm » wrote: you can't sit there and say that putin would have invaded even if biden said that the truth that ukraine cannot join nato,

if biden had said that and russia invaded anyway, then that would be proof.

you can't prove a positive with a negative.

biden should have tried to avoid the war with earnest peace talks instead of just daring putin into a war.
Not to mention that thing where Trump promised Putin to give up Crimea and Ukraine in the FIRST place.  Putin said he did, and Trump has never denied it. So there's that.

Your position is Biden should've tried to avert war by promising something he probably had no right to promise (that Ukraine would never join NATO) and my position is it wouldn't have mattered anyway, especially since NATO wasn't the stated premise upon which Putin attacked Ukraine. It was allegedly to "stop nazis."

Which is proof enough that Putin would've found some other pretext... because it was always his intent.

But hey, we'll never agree on this point so time to move on.

Russia trying to “incite violence by white supremacist groups” in US ahead of 2020 election: report - Salon 

The Current Political Chaos was planned more than 20 years ago - Dailykos 

Foundations of Geopolitics - Wikipedia 

Putin Says Trump Gave Up Crimea And Other Parts Of Ukraine During Private Summit - hillreporter (dot com) 

Southern Nationalist Group Creates Russian Language Website Page To Foster Relationship Between the 'Two Natural Allies' - Newsweek 

Hey! Maria Butina Was at NRA Convention in Louisville in 2016! Guess Who Met with Her? - Dailykos 

Russia’s plot against the West – POLITICO 

Putin’s long game has been revealed, and the omens are bad for Europe - The Guardian 

Russia Could Push US Election Violence Through Far-Right Ties: Experts - Businessinsider (dot com)


 
 
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B.See » 13 Feb 2023, 11:19 pm » wrote: Not to mention that thing where Trump promised Putin to give up Crimea and Ukraine in the FIRST place.  Putin said he did, and Trump has never denied it. So there's that.

Your position is Biden should've tried to avert war by promising something he probably had no right to promise (that Ukraine would never join NATO) and my position is it wouldn't have mattered anyway, especially since NATO wasn't the stated premise upon which Putin attacked Ukraine. It was allegedly to "stop nazis."

Which is proof enough that Putin would've found some other pretext... because it was always his intent.

But hey, we'll never agree on this point so time to move on.

Russia trying to “incite violence by white supremacist groups” in US ahead of 2020 election: report - Salon 

The Current Political Chaos was planned more than 20 years ago - Dailykos 

Foundations of Geopolitics - Wikipedia 

Putin Says Trump Gave Up Crimea And Other Parts Of Ukraine During Private Summit - hillreporter (dot com) 

Southern Nationalist Group Creates Russian Language Website Page To Foster Relationship Between the 'Two Natural Allies' - Newsweek 

Hey! Maria Butina Was at NRA Convention in Louisville in 2016! Guess Who Met with Her? - Dailykos 

Russia’s plot against the West – POLITICO 

Putin’s long game has been revealed, and the omens are bad for Europe - The Guardian 

Russia Could Push US Election Violence Through Far-Right Ties: Experts - Businessinsider (dot com)

biden knows very well that nato won't let ukraine join,
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jerrab » 13 Feb 2023, 11:30 pm » wrote: biden knows very well that nato won't let ukraine join,
If Biden know that so does Putin. Which sort of makes your argument a moot point, does it not? 

Look, like I said, we don't have to agree. Not that I'm saying the West or NATO has clean hands in all of this 

However, I'm not going to accept any point of view that suggests Putin is merely some noble defender against "western aggression" rather than a person with malevolent intent - intent involving the dissolution of the EU, NATO, and Democracy in America, the return of the old Soviet republic, and the spread of his own influence and world domination, throughout Europe and elsewhere, to name a few of his goals.   

And he and his allies (including those in the US, online and off) have been hard at work towards achieving those ends and for quite some time. Bottom line, I just happen to know too much to accept the "Putin as defender" premise. 

I've written before (in this thread) that America has long been at war with Russia. A Russian propagandists has quite recently said so as well (though he doesn't acknowledge Russia as equally at fault). Russian State TV Guest Says Ukraine Invasion an "Episode" in War With U.S. - Newsweek

And Russia's involvement in our elections, its dissemination of misinformation, divisive ideology, propaganda, their allegiance to, collusion with, and support from far right entities (like Trump, Carlson, Greene et al) and with hate based organizations within America - ALL are evidentiary acts of war (IMO).     

I've provided some background information (well, a lot actually) re some of that - and I've well over a thousand more similar references. Though ultimately, it's up to others here, to either accept the information or reject it. 

I promise I will be neither surprised nor disappointed if it's the latter. 
 
 
 
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Look at the date of the quote. you are arguing a dead issue, again. Your idea of life after dead.
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ON THE EASTERN FRONT:

Russia Lost Nearly 3,000 Troops in Just Three Days, Ukraine Says - Newsweek

More Russian crimes, they steal the children!!! - Dailykos   
In addition to the already, large, large list of war crimes (especially against citizens), there is another one that has not yet received much recognition here in the west!  Russian forces have taken THOUSANDS of Ukrainian children away from their families, (new?) report finds

Wives of Dead Russian Soldiers Up In Arms As Fur Coat Gifts Taken Back - Newsweek

UK aims to train Ukrainian pilots ‘as quickly as humanly possible’ - AOL

American F-16 jets intercept 4 Russian warplanes near Alaska - Yahoo


meanwhile, more collusion:

How the Case of Arrested FBI Agent Charles McGonigal Is Tied to a Russia-Linked Influence Effort – Mother Jones

 
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On the eastern front:

Soviet Russia's unearthed chilling plan to take war to the West and capture Europe - Express (dot co dot uk)

Inexperienced Russian Troops Ditched 30 Vehicles After Failed Assault: U.K. - Newsweek

Russia deports thousands of Ukrainian children. Investigators say that's a war crime - Jefferson Public Radio

Ukrainian Orphanages Fight to Keep Kids Safe as War With Russia Rages - MSN

As Russian casualties mount in Ukraine, Wagner Group’s neofascist incompetence is revealed - Dailykos

Ukraine update: Wagner Group alone has lost 30,000 men in the failed assault on Bakhmut - Dailykos

Top Russian Military Official Dead After Plunging Out of High-Rise - BusinessInsider

Another Russian official mysteriously falls out of a window - Dailykos



TRAITORS, SEDITIONISTS, AND OTHER ANTI-AMERICAN PUTIN *** KISSERS:

Wagner Group Absurdly Claims 10 Million U.S. Applicants: ISW - Newsweek

Wagner Group founder Yevgeny Prigozhin has "absurdly" claimed that over 10 million American citizens have applied to join his Russian mercenary organization.


(absurdly? I wouldn't be so sure)

Marjorie Taylor Greene Vows to Impeach Joe Biden for Supporting Ukraine - Newsweek (crazy b-------)

Full List of Republicans Backing Matt Gaetz's Resolution to End Ukraine Aid - Newsweek
   Rep. Andy Biggs of Arizona, Rep. Lauren Boebert of Colorado, Rep. Paul Gosar of Arizona, Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia, Rep. Anna Paulina Luna of Florida, Rep. Thomas Massie of Kentucky, Rep. Mary Miller of Illinois, Rep. Barry Moore of Alabama, Rep. Ralph Norman of South Carolina, Rep. Matt Rosendale of Montana

-ucker Carlson's Favorite Russian Propaganda Dispenser Fluffing Putin For Charlie Kirk Now - Wonkette

D.C. ‘antiwar’ rally mostly a platform for far-right conspiracism, pro-Putin propaganda - Dailykos

Jessie Benton: GOP operative gets 1.5 years in prison for facilitating illegal Russian donation to Trump 2016 campaign - CNN Politics

 
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on the eastern front...

Putin Creating More Conflicts In Europe To 'Divert West's Attention Away From Ukraine: Osmani - ibtimes

Leader of Russian opposition changes his mind on Crimea: he wants to recognise Ukraine's 1991 borders - News.Yahoo

Vladimir Putin will target these countries next if he wins Ukraine war, according to Kremlin critic - MSN

Putin suspends participation in nuclear arms treaty day after Biden visits Ukraine - Raw Story

Tensions in Moldova rise as intelligence suggests Putin is plotting to take control of main airport - inews (dot co dot uk)

Putin ‘tried and failed’ to launch intercontinental ballistic missile during Biden visit to Ukraine - AOL (dot com)

US among 34 countries calling on IOC to ban Russian and Belarusian athletes from international sports - CNN



PUTIN'S MAGA "DICK SUCKERS" (to coin a phrase):

Anti-War Protesters in Washington Praise ‘Russian Patriot’ Vladimir Putin - New.Yahoo (dot com)

DeSantis buried for playing dumb about Russian slaughter in Ukraine - Raw Story

Biden Was In Ukraine, And GOP Seditionists And Putin Apologists Think They Have Something To Say About That - Wonkette

GOP buffoons hate Biden so much that they're giving aid and comfort to Russia: Morning: Joe - Raw Story
(has to do with that T word... what was it again?)

GOP attacks on Biden's Ukraine visit are worse than partisanship — they really want Russia to win - Salon

Ex-General Blasts Matt Gaetz Over Ukraine Fatigue Bill: Disgusted - Newsweek

Huh? Afghan and Iraq War Booster Sean Hannity Slams Ukraine ‘Quagmire’ as ‘Another Long, Protracted Democratic War’ - Mediaite

 
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Nostradamus'omh » 14 Feb 2023, 6:44 am » wrote: Look at the date of the quote. you are arguing a dead issue, again. Your idea of life after dead.
you will soon be dead from aids
 
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Trumprules » 24 Feb 2023, 6:03 pm » wrote: This is just the first step if putin gets away with. World War three might be avoided if we make the right moves now like I think Biden is.
I watched how your mind follows specific patterns of comparing realities against one another. Aren't all realities conducted within one species?

Seems like all realities train their great great grandchildren to ignore genetics eternally separates ancestors adapting to the moment here.
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Trumprules » 24 Feb 2023, 6:03 pm » wrote: This is just the first step if putin gets away with. World War three might be avoided if we make the right moves now like I think Biden is.
My optimism is fading.  China has mouths to feed, They will take any business they can get includings selling arms to Russia.

WW3 sure is getting a lot of consideration by the chatter I see.
 
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on the eastern front:

Slava Ukraini: Ukraine receives first Western tanks, with more to come - Dailykos

UN condemns Russia, calls for immediate withdrawal from Ukraine - Dailykos

Is Moldova about to be a new front in the Russian war against Ukraine? Dailykos

Vladimir Putin Aide Says Russia Will Win In Ukraine - Benzinga

Latvian MP tells Putin's delegates to 'Go **** yourself' as he explodes at UN meeting - Expresss (dot co dot uk)

Tense moment as Russia's UN ambassador interrupted a minute of silence for victims of Ukraine war at Security Council - Yahoo

Justin Trudeau Stopped His Speech At A Rally For Ukraine To Yell At A Heckler & He Got Applause - Narcity

7 Former NATO Commanders Say US ‘Must Do Everything We Can’ for Ukrainian Victory - DefenseOne

One Year of Brutality and These Europeans Still Won’t Back Ukraine - TheDailyBeast

Key Putin ally claims Russia is dismantling seized western weapons to turn 'the enemy's experience to our advantage' in Ukraine - Raw Story


NATO De Facto at War With Russia in Ukraine, Kremlin Says - Newsweek (yep)

Spy close to Vladimir Putin’s foreign intelligence chief mysteriously dies - World News - Mirror Online



DEPT. OF PUTIN MAGA DICK SUCKERS

Russia hoping to attract 7 million Conservatives - Dailykos ('cause they're 'rather be Russian than Democrat')

Republicans turn up the racism to drive up GOP opposition to Ukraine - Salon

Morning Joe buries Trump for doubling down on his support for Putin on invasion anniversary - Raw Story (it gets him props from the MAGAS)
Matt Gaetz busted for pushing China's propaganda at Armed Services hearing - Raw Story

Matt Gaetz asks about fabricated report, Pentagon official slams him for using Chinese Propaganda - Dailykos

Tucker Carlson Co-Signs Jimmy Dore's Baseless Claims that US 'Arms Nazis In Ukraine' - Mediaite

Marjorie Taylor Greene tells Tucker Carlson all about 'this war against Russia in Ukraine' - Dailykos

Tucker Carlson echos Kremlin propaganda by referring to 'the Russian port of Crimea' - Yahoo

Ted Cruz Mocks Democrat Support For Ukraine: Ukrainian Flag is ‘Like a Covid Mask’ - Mediaite

Ted Cruz says wearing the Ukrainian flag is like a COVID mask — arguing that support for Ukraine among Democrats has become a 'virtue signal' - Yahoo
(as opposed to a virtureLESS signal I suppose)

Paul Krugman: MAGA Republicans creepy *** Putin fixation makes them look like losers — not tough guys - Alternet (dot org)

Marjorie Taylor Greene and Mike Lee spread anti-Ukraine disinformation with edited video - Raw Story

Steven Seagal Receives Order of Friendship
(aka *** kissing) From Vladimir Putin - Newsweek


MEANWHILE:

Condoleezza Rice tells Republicans they need to get on the right side of Ukraine - Raw Story

EVEN PENCE KNOWS THE TRUTH: Pence breaks with DeSantis over Ukraine position: Putin will not stop at Ukraine - Yahoo

 
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on the eastern front:

Russian Troops Complain to Putin About 1940s Weapons: We Are Not Meat - Newsweek

Russia Suffers Catastrophic Loss of Life As Over 1k Killed in One Day: Kyiv - Newsweek

Ukraine update: Bakhmut holds, and Russia has more to worry about than just Ukraine - Dailykos



MORE OF PUTIN'S MAGA DICK SUCKERS:

Fox News Edits Out Trump Saying He Might’ve Let Russia ‘Take Over’ Parts of Ukraine - Yahoo

WATCH: Malcolm Nance Lashes Out at ‘Trump MAGA Cultists’ In Congress Who ‘Literally’ Stand for ‘Genocide’ - Mediaite


These are the VERMIN who claim to care so much about children. Yet they stand **** FACED SILENT on the rape, torture, murder of men, women and children in Ukraine. Hypocritical mfkrs.

 
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B.See » 10 Mar 2023, 1:44 am » wrote: on the eastern front:

Russian Troops Complain to Putin About 1940s Weapons: We Are Not Meat - Newsweek

Russia Suffers Catastrophic Loss of Life As Over 1k Killed in One Day: Kyiv - Newsweek

Ukraine update: Bakhmut holds, and Russia has more to worry about than just Ukraine - Dailykos


MORE OF PUTIN'S MAGA DICK SUCKERS:

Fox News Edits Out Trump Saying He Might’ve Let Russia ‘Take Over’ Parts of Ukraine - Yahoo

WATCH: Malcolm Nance Lashes Out at ‘Trump MAGA Cultists’ In Congress Who ‘Literally’ Stand for ‘Genocide’ - Mediaite


These are the VERMIN who claim to care so much about children. Yet they stand **** FACED SILENT on the rape, torture, murder of men, women and children in Ukraine. Hypocritical mfkrs.

Hey you **** chink cocksucker, STAY ON YOUR OWN THREADS AND STFU
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