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Crazytrain » 15 Feb 2022, 6:00 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2022, 6:00 pm

Oh no doubt the right wing loves Putin. Putin loves you useful idiots.

i am not right wing. would you want bombs pointing at you? then why would putin?

Zeets2 » 15 Feb 2022, 6:55 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2022, 6:55 pm

And I don't see a reason in the world that the rest of the NATO members could possibly be willing to defend Ukraine against Russia, and would NEVER want to admit them just because a demented mushroom like Biden wants it!

We're certainly not the only country in the world who recognizes what a brain-dead feeble joke Brandon is!

I don't see why the other countries would want to risk their security and for that matter ukraine for they would be the first to blown up by russia and they know this. something tells me they are being forced.

jerrab » 15 Feb 2022, 9:27 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2022, 9:27 pm

I don't see why the other countries would want to risk their security and for that matter ukraine for they would be the first to blown up by russia and they know this. something tells me they are being forced.

Yeah we are the big boys on the block. And they are getting pushed by the biggest economy on earth.  

The Ukraine is not the end game. Putin's goal is to destroy NATO and re-establish the Soviet empire of old

Arris » 15 Feb 2022, 10:20 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2022, 10:20 pm

The Ukraine is not the end game. Putin's goal is to destroy NATO and re-establish the Soviet empire of old

Biden said that the Russian people were not the enemy. 

Crazytrain » 15 Feb 2022, 10:14 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2022, 10:14 pm

Yeah we are the big boys on the block. And they are getting pushed by the biggest economy on earth.

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President Joe Biden said the United States was prepared to defend NATO members as the crisis on Ukraine’s border with Russia intensifies.

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and why is there a crisis in the first place? because ukraine wants to join nato. so don't have ukraine join nato and there won't be a crisis.
 
 

jerrab » 15 Feb 2022, 10:21 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2022, 10:21 pm

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President Joe Biden said the United States was prepared to defend NATO members as the crisis on Ukraine’s border with Russia intensifies.

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and why is there a crisis in the first place? because ukraine wants to join nato. so don't have ukraine join nato and there won't be a crisis.

So when does it stop?

If another country wants to join NATO that Russia doesn't want to join he gets to threaten invasion?
 

Crazytrain » 15 Feb 2022, 10:23 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2022, 10:23 pm

So when does it stop?

If another country wants to join NATO that Russia doesn't want to join he gets to threaten invasion?

there have been many countries that joined nato. what makes ukraine more of a threat is that it is right next to russia so if ukraine was a nato member then nato could put bombs in ukraine  pointed a russia.

Crazytrain » 15 Feb 2022, 10:23 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2022, 10:23 pm

So when does it stop?

If another country wants to join NATO that Russia doesn't want to join he gets to threaten invasion?

jerrab » 15 Feb 2022, 10:28 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2022, 10:28 pm

So you think Russia should be able to tell any nation what orgs. They can enter into to protect their country. 

I don't. 
 

Crazytrain » 15 Feb 2022, 10:23 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2022, 10:23 pm

So when does it stop?

If another country wants to join NATO that Russia doesn't want to join he gets to threaten invasion?

and just so you know what ukraine would be up against, that small orange country is ukraine and the huge green country is russia. putin has said over and over for ukraine not join nato and that is what everything is about.


 

Crazytrain » 15 Feb 2022, 10:31 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2022, 10:31 pm

So you think Russia should be able to tell any nation what orgs. They can enter into to protect their country. 

I don't.

russia has a right to protect it's own security.

jerrab » 15 Feb 2022, 10:31 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2022, 10:31 pm

and just so you know what ukraine would be up against, that small orange country is ukraine and the huge green country is russia. putin has said over and over for ukraine not join nato and that is what everything is about.

California has a bigger economy. 

Oh there is no doubt that Russia can bully it's neighbors into not protecting themselves from them. 
 

Crazytrain » 15 Feb 2022, 10:33 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2022, 10:33 pm

California has a bigger economy. 

Oh there is no doubt that Russia can bully it's neighbors into not protecting themselves from them.

so you think russia should sit back and let nato blow them up?
 

jerrab » 15 Feb 2022, 10:37 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2022, 10:37 pm

so you think russia should sit back and let nato blow them up?

How many times has NATO attacked Russia?
 

Crazytrain » 15 Feb 2022, 10:38 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2022, 10:38 pm

How many times has NATO attacked Russia?

can you personally promise russia that nato will not attack russia from ukraine?

russia is not a country that will take any chances.

Crazytrain » 15 Feb 2022, 10:33 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2022, 10:33 pm

California has a bigger economy. 

Oh there is no doubt that Russia can bully it's neighbors into not protecting themselves from them.

the best thing for ukraine would be not to join nato and bargain for no problems from russia if ukraine does not join nato.
 
 

jerrab » 15 Feb 2022, 10:46 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2022, 10:46 pm

can you personally promise russia that nato will not attack russia from ukraine?

russia is not a country that will take any chances.

NATO is to protect western Europe from invasion from Russia. The exact same thing Putin was threatening. 

Crazytrain » 15 Feb 2022, 10:54 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2022, 10:54 pm

NATO is to protect western Europe from invasion from Russia. The exact same thing Putin was threatening.

not until ukraine started saying it wanted to join nato.

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Is Ukraine in NATO?
On 12 June 2020, Ukraine joined NATO's enhanced opportunity partner interoperability program. According to an official NATO statement, the new status "does not prejudge any decisions on NATO membership."

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ukraine is an nato program and russia didn't threaten to invade then. being a member of nato would be a whole different ball of wax.

Crazytrain » 15 Feb 2022, 10:31 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2022, 10:31 pm

So you think Russia should be able to tell any nation what orgs. They can enter into to protect their country. 

I don't.

biden knows exactly what will happen when ukraine joins nato. that is why he is telling americans to get out of ukraine. ukraine will  be doomed.