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Crazytrain » 16 Feb 2022, 12:10 am » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2022, 12:10 am

And I'll fight for Ukraine ability to make that decision without Russia bullying them.

but you already said a country has a right to protect itself. that is what russia thinks too.

Crazytrain » 16 Feb 2022, 12:12 am » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2022, 12:12 am

Russia bullied a smaller country into doing something they didn't want to do. 

And now they see why they should join NATO.

russia warned ukraine.

that is better than bombing them after they joined nato.

jerrab » 16 Feb 2022, 12:14 am » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2022, 12:14 am

russia warned ukraine.

that is better than bombing them after they joined nato.

I think Russia should stay out of Ukraine a state affairs. 

And stop bullying your neighbors with death. 
 

Crazytrain » 16 Feb 2022, 12:25 am » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2022, 12:25 am

I think Russia should stay out of Ukraine a state affairs. 

And stop bullying your neighbors with death.

and they could promise this if ukraine does not join nato.

Crazytrain » 16 Feb 2022, 12:07 am » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2022, 12:07 am

Well it's good to have allies that will protect you from invasion. Don't you think?

they already have that. they don't have to join nato.

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Ukraine’s status as an Enhanced Opportunities Partner does not prejudge any decisions on NATO membership. NATO Allies continue to encourage and support Ukraine in its reform efforts, including in the security and defence sector, with regard to civilian control and democratic oversight, and in the fight against corruption.


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Crazytrain » 15 Feb 2022, 10:14 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2022, 10:14 pm

Yeah we are the big boys on the block. And they are getting pushed by the biggest economy on earth.  

"we"? Your "we" cannot account for life in kinetic series parallel time occupying space now as simply evolving compounding DNA ancestrally forward here.

ESAD.eat **** and die.

Any day now.

Crazytrain » 17 Feb 2022, 9:11 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Feb 2022, 9:11 pm

Any day now.

and all ukraine has to say is  it won't join nato. this is crazy. why would the president of ukraine risk his country's security over this? utter insanity.
 
 

Crazytrain » 27 Jan 2022, 6:33 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jan 2022, 6:33 am

I see no deal here. And Biden isn't in the mood to make bad deals. Russia will enslave Ukraine.

Good call

Crazytrain » 27 Jan 2022, 6:33 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jan 2022, 6:33 am

I see no deal here. And Biden isn't in the mood to make bad deals. Russia will enslave Ukraine.

That'd be bad.   Where's Hunter going to make up all that "no show" money?
 

jerrab » 17 Feb 2022, 10:00 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Feb 2022, 10:00 pm

and all ukraine has to say is  it won't join nato. this is crazy. why would the president of ukraine risk his country's security over this? utter insanity.

someone is forcing ukraine to join nato. 

and when ukraine is obliterated then the other countries will attack russia.

and I don't think they want that either.

who is forcing ukraine to join nato? a bad move for the entire world, even america.
 

Neo » 27 Jan 2022, 9:27 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jan 2022, 9:27 am

I think Russia wants security guarantees that they were promised before dropping the iron curtain.  We agreed to not expand nato one inch eastward, we reneged on that promise. Ukraine is their red line.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/1 ... solved-now


Russian President Vladimir Putin has said Moscow does not want a war in Europe amid rising tensions over Ukraine but demanded that the issue of Kyiv’s relationship with NATO be resolved in its entirety immediately.


 

Neo » 13 Feb 2022, 3:12 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Feb 2022, 3:12 pm

This will be the first war I will protest. Perhaps some left wingers can give us pointers?

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/1 ... sia-crisis


--------------------------------------------------------NATO’s members may also be wary of Ukraine joining their ranks while tensions with Moscow remain high, as such a move could draw them into a direct conflict with Russia in the event it launches an attack, because of the collective defence principle.On Monday, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz said the issue was “not on the agenda” following talks with Volodymyr Zelenskyy in Kyiv, despite Ukraine’s president restating his country’s membership ambition.

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just as I thought- nato doesn't want ukraine to join,
 

Neo » 13 Feb 2022, 3:12 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Feb 2022, 3:12 pm

This will be the first war I will protest. Perhaps some left wingers can give us pointers?

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https://www.nytimes.com/video/world/eur ... ensky.html


-President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine emphasized his country’s desire to join NATO, an aspiration fixed in Ukraine’s Constitution, but did not rule out the possibility of dropping its bid for membership.

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yes, someone is strong arming ukraine in all of this,
 
 
 

Crazytrain » 17 Feb 2022, 9:11 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Feb 2022, 9:11 pm

Any day now.

What about actual time, not relative time logistics?Relative time logistics is longitude 0/360 hit mid night. kind of like dawn at 90 degrees, noon 180 degrees dusk 270.

yet all 4 corners of the globe are mutually the same time here and each lifetime a separate event horizon between inception and extinction of their species, ancestral lineage sustaining numbers in plain sight, now.

What about those other corners like solstices and equinoxes changing seasons 8 times a year 4 opposite each other with the tropics horizontally separating them.

So many spontaneously separate events working simultaneously present.

Crazytrain » 17 Feb 2022, 9:11 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Feb 2022, 9:11 pm

Any day now.

On Wednesday, Ok not Wednesday maybe Friday or Saturday - Failing that it will definitely be Tuesday or Thursday - but possibly Sunday.... According to Intelligence sources and those in the know ...But it might not be in February, it could be March or next year based on our very reliable intelligence sources.   

This is all shenanigans, an invasion would cost too much, but manipulation of the markets makes Putin $BILLIONS. A $100 barrel of oil makes more money than an $85 barrel of oil. Putin isn't going to invade. He is going to destabilize Ukrainian and then walk in politically. But in the meantime he will be a constant headache for the lame and inexperienced US diplomatic and woke military administration so they are powerless against China. The mess we are in domestically will only get worse. Our ability to remain a first world nation will wane and eventually we will be begging our adversaries to rescue us.
 
 

Buffalo » 18 Feb 2022, 9:45 am » wrote: ↑

18 Feb 2022, 9:45 am

On Wednesday, Ok not Wednesday maybe Friday or Saturday - Failing that it will definitely be Tuesday or Thursday - but possibly Sunday.... According to Intelligence sources and those in the know ...But it might not be in February, it could be March or next year based on our very reliable intelligence sources.   

This is all shenanigans, an invasion would cost too much, but manipulation of the markets makes Putin $BILLIONS. A $100 barrel of oil makes more money than an $85 barrel of oil. Putin isn't going to invade. He is going to destabilize Ukrainian and then walk in politically. But in the meantime he will be a constant headache for the lame and inexperienced US diplomatic and woke military administration so they are powerless against China. The mess we are in domestically will only get worse. Our ability to remain a first world nation will wane and eventually we will be begging our adversaries to rescue us.

all nato has to do is say that ukraine can't join nato because it will put every country in europe in danger. nato does not want ukraine to join.

jerrab » 18 Feb 2022, 10:51 am » wrote: ↑

18 Feb 2022, 10:51 am

all nato has to do is say that ukraine can't join nato because it will put every country in europe in danger. nato does not want ukraine to join.

I sure don't want to send my children to go war w/ people in charge like;

1.  Goofball Biden.
2.  Crack-whore Kamala.
3.  Aff./Act. Baby Austin.
4.  Milk-toast Milly.
5.  Blank-mind Blinken.                                                    

Taipan » 18 Feb 2022, 12:16 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Feb 2022, 12:16 pm

I sure don't want to send my children to go war w/ people in charge like;

1.  Goofball Biden.
2.  Crack-whore Kamala.
3.  Aff./Act. Baby Austin.
4.  Milk-toast Milly.
5.  Blank-mind Blinken.                                                  

Meanwhile all the top military brass are arttending woke sensitivity training classes and learning the correct pronouns to use. 

Meet Sam Brinton, braindead bidens new DOE hire in charge of nuclear waste diposal:

He is the one standing.  The other 3 were diqualified because they tried to hump braindead bidens hairy legs.

 

Buffalo » 18 Feb 2022, 12:30 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Feb 2022, 12:30 pm

Meanwhile all the top military brass are arttending woke sensitivity training classes and learning the correct pronouns to use. 

Meet Sam Brinton, braindead bidens new DOE hire in charge of nuclear waste diposal:

He is the one standing.  The other 3 were diqualified because they tried to hump braindead bidens hairy legs.

LOL..............
Good one !!