New Durham Filing: Clinton Campaign paid to 'infiltrate' Trump Tower, White House servers to link Trump to Russia

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Crazytrain » 15 Feb 2022, 8:17 pm » wrote: ↑ But legal analysts have told Newsweek that the document isn't the damning evidence conservatives are touting it to be.

"It's not the smoking gun that folks are saying that it is," said Neama Rahmani, a former federal prosecutor and president of West Coast Trial Lawyers.

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Or as Nick Akerman, a former Watergate prosecutor, put it: "It's absolutely nonsense."

The filing is centered on Michael Sussmann, a lawyer with ties to the Clinton campaign. Sussmann has been charged with a single count of lying to the FBI in 2016 when presenting it with documents that allegedly showed secret communications between the Trump campaign and a Russian bank.
Well, there's no way THEY could be partisan. They're LEGAL ANALYISTS.

I say we ignore the department of justice and take their word for it. 
 
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golfboy » 15 Feb 2022, 8:19 pm » wrote: ↑ lol.   It's cute when liberals regurgitate this nonsense, and don't know WTF is going on. 
Why aren't you asking "who flipped" because Durham released information that ONLY came from the inside.

Because her unattributed copy paste didn't instruct her to do so.
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Crazytrain » 15 Feb 2022, 4:49 pm » wrote: ↑ Researching DNS lookups is not hacking a server. It is tracking the pattern of connections between servers and computers or smartphones. Much of this information—DNS logs—is not private. The researchers examining the DNS data were not infiltrating anything. Lawyers for Joffe and David Dagon, a Georgia Institute of Technology data scientist who helped develop the research Sussmann shared with the CIA, have challenged Durham’s representations. Dagon’s attorneys note that the DNS logs examined related to the Russian phone service came from the time of Barack Obama’s presidency. That appears credible, given that Sussmann’s meeting with the CIA was only three weeks after Trump had taken office. And they told the New York Times that Dagon and associates were using “nonprivate” DNS data and “were investigating malware in the White House, not spying on the Trump campaign.”

Joffe, too, says that this research was focused on whether Russian malware had infected the White House and the Trump campaign. (Trump’s campaign office was in Trump Tower.) As the New York Times reports,

So let me say this slowly so the cons can understand it.

Researching DNS lookups is not hacking a server. It is tracking the pattern of connections between servers and computers or smartphones. Much of this information—DNS logs—is not private. The researchers examining the DNS data were not infiltrating anything. Lawyers for Joffe and David Dagon, a Georgia Institute of Technology data scientist who helped develop the research Sussmann shared with the CIA, have challenged Durham’s representations. Dagon’s attorneys note that the DNS logs examined related to the Russian phone service came from the time of Barack Obama’s presidency. That appears credible, given that Sussmann’s meeting with the CIA was only three weeks after Trump had taken office. And they told the New York Times that Dagon and associates were using “nonprivate” DNS data and “were investigating malware in the White House, not spying on the Trump campaign.”

Joffe, too, says that this research was focused on whether Russian malware had infected the White House and the Trump campaign. (Trump’s campaign office was in Trump Tower.) As the New York Times reports,

The key part.
Much of this information—DNS logs—is not private. The researchers examining the DNS data were not infiltrating anything.
JOFFE WAS ILLEGALLY SPYING ON A SITTING PRESIDENT, YOU GODDAMN ****. LIBERAL IDIOT!!!  HE WAS LOOKING FOR DIRT ON TRUMP!!!  HE PASSED DATA FROM COMMUNICATIONS BETWEEN COMMPUTER SERVERS AND THE EXECUTIVE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT, 2 TRUMP OWNED BUILDINGS IN NEW YORK AND AN UNRELATED MEDICAL FIRM WITH RUSSIAN MADECELLPHONES NEAR THE WHITE HOUSE TO CLINTON LAWYER SUSSMAN WHO THEN GAVE THE INFORMATION TO THE CIA!!!  

JOFFE EXPLOITED HIS ACCESS TO WHITE HOUSE COMPUTER FOR POLITICAL ESPIONAGE!!!

**** YOU!!!  

 
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The motion also claims that in February 2017, Sussman told the FBI that one of his own clients, technology executive Rodney Joffe – whose company apparently maintained internet-related servers for the White House at one point – "exploited" his access to these servers to dig up dirt on Trump.

Even though Durham never directly said in his motion that Clinton coordinated a campaign to "spy" on Trump through Joffe, The New York Times noted, conservatives have been quick to draw such conclusions, accusing liberal media of being biased for not covering the alleged scandal.

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The press refuses to even mention the major crime that took place," Mr. Trump said in a statement on Monday. "This in itself is a scandal, the fact that a story so big, so powerful and so important for the future of our nation is getting zero coverage from LameStream, is being talked about all over the world."

RELATED: Retired general: Russians will soon leak intel they used to "control" Trump

"We now know that the Clinton campaign paid a tech firm to infiltrate the servers at Trump Tower and then later infiltrate the servers at the Trump White House, in other words, illegally spying on a presidential candidate," Fox News Sean Hannity said on Monday. "The goal [was to] fabricate evidence that President Trump was a Russian asset.

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"This is far worse than Watergate," he added.

Fox News on Tuesday also noted the amount of media coverage the alleged scandal had thus far received by ABC News, CBS News, NBC News, CNN, and MSNBC. According to Fox News Research, all of these channels have respectively dedicated "0 minutes."
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While there may be reason to investigate Sussmann, there is still little basis to believe that Joffe's work was part of a grand scheme to smear Trump.

As the Times' Charlie Savage noted, the White House data allegedly "mined" from the White House was targeted before Trump took office.

Additionally, the incitement alleges that Joffe's company "had come to access and maintain dedicated servers for the EOP [Executive Office of the President] as part of a sensitive arrangement whereby it provided DNS resolution services to the EOP." So if Joffe's firm did record the web addresses of White House users, the Post's Glenn Kessler noted, then that may have simply been part of a pre-arranged contract rather than a politically-motivated breach of conduct.
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golfboy » 15 Feb 2022, 8:15 pm » wrote: ↑ Why did Biden show down Trump's recovery?
He didn't.
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Oh damn. The little bitches ain't got ****.

And Jim jordan.running around saying somebody should be executed is kinda funny.

😂 😂 😂
 
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golfboy » 15 Feb 2022, 8:15 pm » wrote: ↑ Not sure he knows how.
Ask @Huey  how that worked out for him last time.
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Just another right wing *** pull to get the idiots all excited. A big nothing burger.
 
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Crazytrain » 15 Feb 2022, 9:08 pm » wrote: ↑ While there may be reason to investigate Sussmann, there is still little basis to believe that Joffe's work was part of a grand scheme to smear Trump.

As the Times' Charlie Savage noted, the White House data allegedly "mined" from the White House was targeted before Trump took office.

Additionally, the incitement alleges that Joffe's company "had come to access and maintain dedicated servers for the EOP [Executive Office of the President] as part of a sensitive arrangement whereby it provided DNS resolution services to the EOP." So if Joffe's firm did record the web addresses of White House users, the Post's Glenn Kessler noted, then that may have simply been part of a pre-arranged contract rather than a politically-motivated breach of conduct.
Fortunately, we don't need Charlie Savage's speculation. Durham seems to be meticulous. I'm sure Clinton had no idea what was unfolding behind the scenes.
 
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neueregel » 15 Feb 2022, 9:29 pm » wrote: ↑ Fortunately, we don't need Charlie Savage's speculation. Durham seems to be meticulous. I'm sure Clinton had no idea what was unfolding behind the scenes.

So how much did Hillary pay for the spying. 😂😂


Did fox news say how much she paid. Because that had nothing to do with the new charges. 
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Of course he did. 
Trump put 12.4 million people back to work May-Dec. 
Biden put 6.4 million back to work the entire next year. 

I know math is hard for liberals, but that's about half Trump's number. 
 
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golfboy » 15 Feb 2022, 10:29 pm » wrote: ↑ Of course he did. 
Trump put 12.4 million people back to work May-Dec. 
Biden put 6.4 million back to work the entire next year. 

I know math is hard for liberals, but that's about half Trump's number.
So how much did they pay him? And this doesn't prove ****.


Big nothing burger. 
 
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Crazytrain » 15 Feb 2022, 10:19 pm » wrote: ↑ So how much did Hillary pay for the spying. 😂😂

Did fox news say how much she paid. Because that had nothing to do with the new charges.
I don’t believe Durham has weighed in on that nor do I think Hillary is so careless as to draw such a direct line back to herself. 
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Well I think it's telling that fox news would run a story saying that Clinton paid for this when the court fing and the charge has none of that in it.

And the information collected where all in the public domain.
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golfboy » 15 Feb 2022, 10:29 pm » wrote: ↑ Of course he did. 
Trump put 12.4 million people back to work May-Dec. 
Biden put 6.4 million back to work the entire next year. 

I know math is hard for liberals, but that's about half Trump's number.
You're a **** idiot...


What was Grifty averaging from Oct 2020 to Jan 2021?
 
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Cannonpointer » 15 Feb 2022, 8:20 pm » wrote: ↑ It's what he does. It's all he does.
Oddly enough, it wouldn't bother me nearly as much if he wasn't so damn boring when he's doing it!
No surprise that his wife dumped him.  Imagine not only having to hear him yap like a magpie every day, but having to watch him droning on and on too! 
 
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Crazytrain » 16 Feb 2022, 12:30 am » wrote: ↑ Well I think it's telling that fox news would run a story saying that Clinton paid for this when the court fing and the charge has none of that in it.

And the information collected where all in the public domain.
Here's a clue for you, morons.

When a Clinton Campaign lawyer is discussed in the filing, it means, without any doubt whatsoever and provable from the Campaign Finance filings made by the candidate, that Hillary paid for the criminal activity.

You morons really are this dense aren't you.

It doesn't have to "say" that she paid for it, the mere fact that it was one of her paid hired hands means SHE knew about it an approved it. Not to mention she used the lies to try to push false information about Trump during her failure of a campaign.

Do you need a roadmap to see that the facts align perfectly that Hillary was up to her neck in this crime?
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