Very good post.SJConspirator » 19 Feb 2022, 4:10 pm » wrote: ↑ What does it mean to be an American Patriots?
It's defined thus: devotion to and vigorous support for one's country.
But that makes no sense to me. In every civil war, both sides claimed to be patriots as they slaughtered each other. Is patriotism expressed by murdering ones countrymen?
How does it manifest in any Way? Putting a yellow ribbon on a bumper sticker?
In this country, military vets are overepresented in suicides and homelessness. It is quite obvious this country hates vets. I am reminded of this every time I go to the VA
To me, patriotism is expressed by cooperation with fellow citizens, not by conflict with them. Yet modern Americans who deem themselves the most patriotic also seem to be the first to throw other Americans under the bus of hardship and poverty.
The most ardent patriots are the same ones promoting a rat race dog eat dog vision of society with no cooperation, only competition. They seem to hate other Americans intensely. Is this a paradox?
DeezerShoove » 19 Feb 2022, 4:35 pm » wrote: ↑ Every person on this planet is being lied to for the selfish reasons known to the liar.
This is because US military recruits from the underprivileged groups. Many people who would make good warriors (those who feel no fear or almost no fear) will not go to the military. They would prefer to die for nothing while rock climbing than to die for banksters.SJConspirator » 19 Feb 2022, 4:10 pm » wrote: ↑ In this country, military vets are overepresented in suicides and homelessness. It is quite obvious this country hates vets.
SJConspirator » 19 Feb 2022, 4:10 pm » wrote: ↑ What does it mean to be an American Patriots?
It's defined thus: devotion to and vigorous support for one's country.
But that makes no sense to me. In every civil war, both sides claimed to be patriots as they slaughtered each other. Is patriotism expressed by murdering ones countrymen?
How does it manifest in any Way? Putting a yellow ribbon on a bumper sticker?
In this country, military vets are overepresented in suicides and homelessness. It is quite obvious this country hates vets. I am reminded of this every time I go to the VA
To me, patriotism is expressed by cooperation with fellow citizens, not by conflict with them. Yet modern Americans who deem themselves the most patriotic also seem to be the first to throw other Americans under the bus of hardship and poverty.
The most ardent patriots are the same ones promoting a rat race dog eat dog vision of society with no cooperation, only competition. They seem to hate other Americans intensely. Is this a paradox?
That was a comment on the OP.SJConspirator » 19 Feb 2022, 4:37 pm » wrote: ↑ it's beneath a moderator to troll so blatantly.
Any comment on the OP?
Yeah you got yahoos that hate everything about America an it's government but love wearing American flag and patriot garb.SJConspirator » 19 Feb 2022, 4:20 pm » wrote: ↑ The clearest definition I can see for patriot:
One who loves his country's flag and hates his country's people
Nationalism sometime works against the good of the people.FOS » 19 Feb 2022, 5:06 pm » wrote: ↑ patriotism = loyalty to power.
nationalism = loyalty to people
Wrong. A nation is a people. Who rules over those people...which defines a country....may easily be a hostile foreign power.Crazytrain » 19 Feb 2022, 5:54 pm » wrote: ↑ Nationalism sometime works against the good of the people.
Now white nationalism only protects those of their country.
Nationalist love all their countries people and work to make their daily lives better.
Some people want their lives to be better and others in that country to suffer for their benefit.
No white nationalism wants one color to benefit and other to suffer for that benefit.FOS » 19 Feb 2022, 5:59 pm » wrote: ↑ Wrong. A nation is a people. Who rules over those people...which defines a country....may easily be a hostile foreign power.
thus the people who fought against monarchy were called nationalists, especially if they were from a distinct ethnic group. scottish nationalists, irish nationalists, etc.
a nationalist can easily be opposed to the state that rules him.
people are not the same thing as state. period. no matter how much people try to manipulate our language to make it seem that way.
a white nationalist, seeking sovereignty for whites, would necessarily be opposed to the current US government, which condemns and persecutes such ambitions. a white nationalist cannot be a patriot, and a patriot cannot be a white nationalist.
lol what the **** would suffering have to do with anything? there is no advantage in that. A white nationalist wants freedom and has a racial identity. that is all.Crazytrain » 19 Feb 2022, 6:01 pm » wrote: ↑ No white nationalism wants one color to benefit and other to suffer for that benefit.
FOS » 19 Feb 2022, 6:02 pm » wrote: ↑ lol what the **** would suffering have to do with anything? there is no advantage in that. A white nationalist wants freedom and has a racial identity. that is all.