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SJConspirator » 19 Feb 2022, 9:55 pm » wrote: Fox News, CNN, MSNBC = MSM.  I don’t watch MSM
me neither. I figure that **** is just for plebs who probably should never go on an actual forum.
 
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Crazytrain » 19 Feb 2022, 9:36 pm » wrote: BB

****. Fox news wants to divide. Till you realize that you know nothing.

As does CNN. They are the ones who have induced the TDS and continue to feed it. Do you think FOX news is responsible for your hatred toward Republicans and Trump? Duh. 

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Crazytrain » 19 Feb 2022, 9:36 pm » wrote: BB

****. Fox news wants to divide. Till you realize that you know nothing.
And MSNBC wants what - unity? With ALT RIGHT WHITE NATIONALIST BIGOT TRANSPHOBE DEPLORABLES?

Are you this retarded?
 
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FOS » 19 Feb 2022, 9:45 pm » wrote: how many people here even watch fox news? I would like to see a show of hands. 

I personally have literally never watched fox news. Ever. 

I have seen some tucker Carlsen clips cause the guy comes close to the truth sometimes. But that is all.. I never watched fox news for it. 

I can't be certain but I have a feeling that most of the other people involved in this conversation also do not watch fox news.
I dont watch television, period. I have posted tucker carlson clips that popped un on youtube due to other sht I watch - not subscribed. Don't particularly like the silver spoon ersatz-everyman. But I enjoy and somewhat marvel that the Bosses give him so much rope.I guess he's the lead cow for the maverick herd... Keeping the heard feeling heard, keeping them in the fold, making them feel represented. 
 
 
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You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not your friend

An opinion you won't defend is not yours. It's someone else's.

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe.

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge.

Only religions declare heresy; only lies require protection.


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ScottMon » 19 Feb 2022, 9:57 pm » wrote: Trouble is, Diversity is going to happen no matter what you do.  nature abhors homogeny.
Real diversity "happening" is wondeful. I prsonally like it - a LOT.

Fake diversity being shoved down throats, not so much. 

Be very clear about yourself. You are no fan of diversity. You don't even know what diversity is, or why it should be valued.

If you WERE such, you would celebrate and wish to see preserved, rather than forcibly altered, the many pockets of white American culture in all of their diversity; from the gulf coast to the northwest woods - cultures formed from the clay and honest toil of the people who live those cultures: the woodsmen of the Pacific Northwest, the Shrimpers of Louisianna, the fishing fleets of the Florida coast and the Maryland coast and the Maine coast - the farms and villages of Vermont, etc. All of these cultures have their own histories, their own stories, their own songs, their own folk art, their own cuisines. THAT is what diversity looks like - not the forced "melting pot" that you mistake for diversity, but which is actually the homogeneity that you say nature abhors. 

You are no proponent of diversity. You are its enemy. You have about the same command of diversity as you do of gender and climate and liberalism. You stole my childhood. 

 
 
"Because I SAY I am" is fallacy, not science

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not your friend

An opinion you won't defend is not yours. It's someone else's.

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe.

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge.

Only religions declare heresy; only lies require protection.


If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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Crazytrain » 19 Feb 2022, 4:17 pm » wrote: The media on both sides want you to hate each other. That why you don't question the misinformation that one side or the other feeds you
Are you sure it's both sides that should be questioned?
It's like fox news claiming that they only know the truth.
****. Fox news wants to divide. Till you realize that you know nothing. 
Saying that fox news want you to think they only know the truth is not dividing nothing. It's called the truth.
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SJConspirator » 19 Feb 2022, 4:10 pm » wrote: What does it mean to be an American Patriots?

It's defined thus:  devotion to and vigorous support for one's country.

But that makes no sense to me.  In every civil war, both sides claimed to be patriots as they slaughtered each other.  Is patriotism expressed by murdering ones countrymen?

How does it manifest in any Way?  Putting a yellow ribbon on a bumper sticker?

In this country, military vets are overepresented in suicides and homelessness.  It is quite obvious this country hates vets.  I am reminded of this every time I go to the VA

To me, patriotism is expressed by cooperation with fellow citizens, not by conflict with them.  Yet modern Americans who deem themselves the most patriotic also seem to be the first to throw other Americans under the bus of hardship and poverty.  

The most ardent patriots are the same ones promoting a rat race dog eat dog vision of society with no cooperation, only competition.  They seem to hate other Americans intensely.  Is this a paradox?
Cooperation is missing?  No ****.  When the primary founding principle of this country is individualism...what do you expect SJ.  It's the I got mine, if you can't get yours too ****' bad, principle.

The country doesn't just hate vets.  It hates anybody that interrupts their rights and freedoms to do whatever the **** they want, whenever the **** they want.  So the country hates vets, the elderly, the sick, the infirm, the physically handicapped, the intellectually handicapped, the mentally ill...anybody who is inconvenient.  The country hates children...the most inconvenient of us all.  Want proof?  The reaction feom the right to Sandy Hook.

So in addition to individualism, the country is founded on utopianism (every place else sucks), and puritanism (everybody else is going to hell).  Add the genocide of Manifest Destiny, and the inhumanity of slavery...and it's a neat little package, eh SJ?

Americans don't have any more appropriate notion of patriotism and cooperation than they do of their "rights and freedoms."  What most Americans see as their rights and freedoms, are in direct conflict with patriotism and interpersonal cooperation.

The definition you note...devotion and vigorous support of one's country, in the hands of Americans, is nationalism, pure and simple.
 
 
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SJConspirator » 19 Feb 2022, 4:20 pm » wrote: The clearest definition I can see for patriot:

One who loves his country's flag and hates his country's people
John Prine put it best...

You flag decal won't get ya
In to heaven anymore
They're already overcrowded
From your dirty little war
Now Jesus don't like killin'
No matter what the reason for
And your flag decal wont get ya
In to heaven anymore
 
 
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SJConspirator » 19 Feb 2022, 4:10 pm » wrote: What does it mean to be an American Patriots?

It's defined thus:  devotion to and vigorous support for one's country.

But that makes no sense to me.  In every civil war, both sides claimed to be patriots as they slaughtered each other.  Is patriotism expressed by murdering ones countrymen?

How does it manifest in any Way?  Putting a yellow ribbon on a bumper sticker?

In this country, military vets are overepresented in suicides and homelessness.  It is quite obvious this country hates vets.  I am reminded of this every time I go to the VA

To me, patriotism is expressed by cooperation with fellow citizens, not by conflict with them.  Yet modern Americans who deem themselves the most patriotic also seem to be the first to throw other Americans under the bus of hardship and poverty.  

The most ardent patriots are the same ones promoting a rat race dog eat dog vision of society with no cooperation, only competition.  They seem to hate other Americans intensely.  Is this a paradox?
Patriotism is dedication to context over content. nothing else involved. Throw in symbolism over substance, mind over matter, and each conceived brain becomes type cast member of a reality wishing nobody knew how life really works in plain sight.

Pretty soon 5 generations running practice the same state of mind behavior historically until extinction event arrives ending the addition of great great grandchildren changing 5 generations present.
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ScottMon » 19 Feb 2022, 9:57 pm » wrote: Trouble is, Diversity is going to happen no matter what you do.  nature abhors homogeny.

lol this is ****. Nature focuses only on survival and a homogeneous population is simply superior at survival.

Diversity of humans is only possible if distinct people have their own space to thrive in. 

And that us what western powers are seeking to destroy with their very ham fisted and unnatural policies.. 

And it is so expensive and so labor intensive...and engenders so much hatred and resentment...you have to wonder why exactly they are obsessed with this project.. 
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FOS » 20 Feb 2022, 10:08 am » wrote: lol this is ****. Nature focuses only on survival and a homogeneous population is simply superior at survival.

Diversity of humans is only possible if distinct people have their own space to thrive in. 

And that us what western powers are seeking to destroy with their very ham fisted and unnatural policies.. 

And it is so expensive and so labor intensive...and engenders so much hatred and resentment...you have to wonder why exactly they are obsessed with this project.. 
what changes between nature and naturally here? nature is how one behaves cradle to grave, naturally here is reproduced to replace those arrived before since conceived.

Kinetics to how and why and the 5 states of existing specifically here, which, what, where, when, whom.

Need I do means, motives, methods, opportunity, mayhem, madness, misery working hope, faith, charity, tomorrow, power, wealth, fame today.

Occam's Razor. I have 21 subjective objectives used historically ignoring how simple biology works eternally separating reproductions here now.
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FOS » 20 Feb 2022, 10:08 am » wrote: lol this is ****. Nature focuses only on survival and a homogeneous population is simply superior at survival.

Diversity of humans is only possible if distinct people have their own space to thrive in. 

And that us what western powers are seeking to destroy with their very ham fisted and unnatural policies.. 

And it is so expensive and so labor intensive...and engenders so much hatred and resentment...you have to wonder why exactly they are obsessed with this project..
for the elites, it’s an investment.  They seek to cultivate a race of mud people with no distinct heritage, a mixture of races, therefore loyal to none.  Mud people are easier to control , with no sense of pride in their tribe, no group destiny.  

they want the world to be their wage slaves, which explains the animosity toward entrepreneurs, small business and off grid people like the Amish.
 
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FOS » 20 Feb 2022, 10:08 am » wrote: lol this is ****. Nature focuses only on survival and a homogeneous population is simply superior at survival.

 
Yeah sure ****.  That's why most of us from European stock have some Neanderthal DNA in us...because nature demands homogeneous populations. :rofl:   :rofl:  
 
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SJConspirator » 20 Feb 2022, 10:21 am » wrote: for the elites, it’s an investment.  They seek to cultivate a race of mud people with no distinct heritage, a mixture of races, therefore loyal to none.  Mud people are easier to control , with no sense of pride in their tribe, no group destiny.  

they want the world to be their wage slaves, which explains the animosity toward entrepreneurs, small business and off grid people like the Amish.
Even if they are thinking that I find their strategy based on extreme ignorance. 

Mud people will also have extremely low productivity and innovation. 

They will, having no higher purpose in their life, also make miserable soldiers...and you can never count on them to be loyal. They would easily be hijacked by some competing elite. 

And because they are not particularly adapted to any specific environment you will be unable to draw upon a mud population to find talented specialists at anything.. 
 
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IkeBana » 20 Feb 2022, 10:23 am » wrote: Yeah sure ****.  That's why most of us from European stock have some Neanderthal DNA in us...because nature demands homogeneous populations. Image   Image
Why do midwits like you always think you are smart?

Europeans are a product of centuries of evolution. When we first migrated to Europe we were not adapted to it. 

Over time we did become adapted to it. Not only to the physical environment...but also to a unique method of building a tribe that can survive using some particular general strategy...which for Europeans was focusing on innovation. 


it takes time to fine tune the genetics of a population in that way. Not thousands of years but hundreds.

but you can ruin all thay work in one generation by mixing with some out group.
 
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IkeBana » 20 Feb 2022, 10:23 am » wrote: Yeah sure ****.  That's why most of us from European stock have some Neanderthal DNA in us...because nature demands homogeneous populations. Image   Image


If you look at other highly social animals in the wild, monkeys, orca whales, etc.. they are born into a group, or pod, and they do not mix with other groups.  Often, they have organized warfare between such groups.

Nature does alow diversity at times, but does not favor it
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FOS » 20 Feb 2022, 10:33 am » wrote: Why do midwits like you always think you are smart?

 
that wasn't a rhetorical question was it? you really are a half wit and witnessless of life in plain sight.
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omh » 20 Feb 2022, 10:43 am » wrote: that wasn't a rhetorical question was it? you really are a half wit and witnessless of life in plain sight.


If he is in plain sight, why can’t I see him?

nvm.. you are making me regret this isn’t a PG thread
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SJConspirator » 20 Feb 2022, 10:46 am » wrote: If he is in plain sight, why can’t I see him?

nvm.. you are making me regret this isn’t a PG thread
Lack of optics since seeing is believing line of sight where one's brain recites possibilities into social fruitionwhen ignroing the basics of how and why living is limited to co-existing as reproductively timed apart now.
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FOS » 20 Feb 2022, 10:33 am » wrote: Why do midwits like you always think you are smart?
We know we're smart from repeatedly dealing with **** like you.
 
What's a midwit? :rofl:  
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