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We need to hold everybody to account for laws broken.

TB7 » 31 Mar 2022, 1:14 pm » wrote: ↑

31 Mar 2022, 1:14 pm

Well, I  am a little too young for Nam, seeing I am in my early sixties.  HOWEVER, I SPENT 26 YEARS ....AND 7 MONTHS...IN THE MILITARY. I SERVED IN  Operation Iraqi, Operation Enduring Freedom, Operation Just Cause, Operation Gothic Serpent, Operation Uphold Democracy, and many more. I spent a lot of time at Special Operations Command-Europe and SOCAFRICA. 

NOW, COME ON BACK AND TELL ME HOW YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME, AND YADA, YADA

SOMETIMES, YOU SEEM TO HAVE COMMON SENSE. THEN YOU OPEN YOUR MOUTH PENIS-HEAD

What did you DO?

Huey » 31 Mar 2022, 7:31 am » wrote: ↑

31 Mar 2022, 7:31 am

I was a supporter of Rittenhouse.  As the facts came to light I continually posted that in each shooting he followed the laws concerning self defense shootings.

Yet you are retarded enough to take at face value the narratives of those who called him an alt right white supremacist murderer. 

I assume your position was not based on principle but on group identity - because IF IT WERE BASED IN PRINCIPLE, you would never take those lying bastards at face value again in your life. 

Vegas » 31 Mar 2022, 11:27 am » wrote: ↑

31 Mar 2022, 11:27 am

Cannon, it's about revenge. If Russians 

Oh look. 

That word you forgot to consider.

Instead, you chose to trust your sources, which IF NOT MNBC, sound EXACTLY like MSNBC.
 

Blackvegetable » 31 Mar 2022, 2:13 pm » wrote: ↑

31 Mar 2022, 2:13 pm

What did you DO?

I did advanced reconnaissance operations and gathered intelligence information

Vegas » 31 Mar 2022, 11:29 am » wrote: ↑

31 Mar 2022, 11:29 am

I got that from interviews from Ukrainians themselves. Is that ok? 

Well, heck. At least you had a neutral source - I'll grant you that. I guess THAT is enough to hang your hat on when cosigning torture, Frank Burns. 

One wonders, though (not YOU, clearly, but "one") - were there any Ukrainians who took an opposite view to the ones you saw interviewed, and ended up on the cutting room floor, never to be heard and considered by a gulled audience of midwits?

Y'know those **** "man in the street" interviews that late night television hosts famously conduct, to comedic effect? When they run into a guy who isn't ridiculous - a guy who knows the answers to the simple questions which are only funny when people do not know the answer, - THOSE clips are never aired. No funny there. And for all you know, they have to go through ten people with a brain for each one of the idiots that we laugh at and tisk-tisk at for being so ignorant. 

Y'see how propaganda works? It's all in the EDITING. I can get you anything you want on the web - prove ANYTHING AT ALL to you - if you are willing to be credulous and shut down your cognition - as you have been, repeatedly, on this issue. 

You circled the boat in a thread where your OP foreswore listening to the media ever again on this topic - and then came blazing in as a defender of torture based on media shenanigans. 

THINK, man. THINK.
 

Cannonpointer » 31 Mar 2022, 2:35 pm » wrote: ↑

31 Mar 2022, 2:35 pm

Huey » 31 Mar 2022, 7:31 am » wrote: ↑

31 Mar 2022, 7:31 am

I was a supporter of Rittenhouse.  As the facts came to light I continually posted that in each shooting he followed the laws concerning self defense shootings.

Yet you are retarded enough to take at face value the narratives of those who called him an alt right white supremacist murderer. 

I assume your position was not based on principle but on group identity - because IF IT WERE BASED IN PRINCIPLE, you would never take those lying bastards at face value again in your life. 

 

Yet you are retarded enough to take at face value the narratives of those who called him an alt right white supremacist murderer. 

No, I did not do that either.  You have me confused with someone else.
 

Huey » 31 Mar 2022, 2:52 pm » wrote: ↑

31 Mar 2022, 2:52 pm

No, I did not do that either.  You have me confused with someone else.

Really? Are you gonna make me rub your **** in your face? REALLY?

When you strive to disappoint, boy, you rarely disappoint in disappointing. 

Huey » 31 Mar 2022, 2:52 pm » wrote: ↑

31 Mar 2022, 2:52 pm

No, I did not do that either.  You have me confused with someone else.

Okay. Let's **** do this. 

I will post a faithful copy of your argument, snapback intact. Then you tell me if someone fabricated it. 

If no one did, I just have a COUPLE of questions, the answers to which will tell an astute observer whether you are, IN FACT, repeating the narratives of the same mother **** who called rittenhouse an alt right white supremacist murderer. Y' ready?

Huey » 13 Mar 2022, 3:07 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Mar 2022, 3:07 pm

They’ll get over it.  Bombing hospitals is a more grievous violation.  Or running over non combatants with a tank.  Or indiscriminately fire rockets that land on or near apartment buildings.

Here are my questions - and it's really lovely that they are pretty much in a yes/no format: 

1. Have you been to Ukraine, to gather this intel personally - or do you have trusted agents on the ground?
2. Are you aware that MSNBC is saying this ****, and that they did INDEED call rittenhouse those names?
3. Has no one informed you that the civilian was in truth run over by an A.A. gu piloted by a hastily retreating Ukrainian soldier?

Okay. Your turn. 
 

Cannonpointer » 31 Mar 2022, 2:35 pm » wrote: ↑

31 Mar 2022, 2:35 pm

Yet you are retarded enough to take at face value the narratives of those who called him an alt right white supremacist murderer. 

I assume your position was not based on principle but on group identity - because IF IT WERE BASED IN PRINCIPLE, you would never take those lying bastards at face value again in your life.

He was a vigilante who was not protecting his property. 

No one asked him to go out and protect their property. 

You have a right to protect your property but not to go out and hunt for potential suspects. 

The gun came out bcuz the kid held a gun. 

White supremacist? He might not be one but he is held in high regard is some circles. 




 

Pastafarian » 31 Mar 2022, 3:09 pm » wrote: ↑

31 Mar 2022, 3:09 pm

He was a vigilante who was not protecting his property.

Vigilant against whom, and why?

Was it because he stood up - an idealistic youth - when the police stood down?

And you say that he wasn't protecting HIS property. So he was protecting his neighbors' property? At 17?

Sounds admirable.

Pastafarian » 31 Mar 2022, 3:09 pm » wrote: ↑

31 Mar 2022, 3:09 pm

No one asked him to go out and protect their property.

I see that you didn't competently follow the court case. Sworn testimony that went to the jury says otherwise.

You are entitled to your own opinion, **** up and based on emotional misfittery though it be. But you do not get your own facts, no matter HOW much melanin you carry.

Pastafarian » 31 Mar 2022, 3:09 pm » wrote: ↑

31 Mar 2022, 3:09 pm

You have a right to protect your property but not to go out and hunt for potential suspects.

Again, counter to what the jury heard. What the JURY heard - and ruled on - was that HE, Rittenhouse, was the hunted and not the hunter.

In fact - sit so ya don't fall, bombshell information coming - it was all on VIDEO. They actually SAW the hunting of the minor child by cowardly adult felons unfold in real time from multiple angles. And you know what they say. A picture is more valuable than all of the stupid you can spray.

Pastafarian » 31 Mar 2022, 3:09 pm » wrote: ↑

31 Mar 2022, 3:09 pm

The gun came out bcuz the kid held a gun.

The jackass felon who pulled that gun got himself shot by his better.

Pastafarian » 31 Mar 2022, 3:09 pm » wrote: ↑

31 Mar 2022, 3:09 pm

White supremacist? He might not be one but he is held in high regard is some circles.

So, guilt by association. Very high minded of you. But you are very "liberal" to grant that the kid "MIGHT" not be a white supremacist. Just as I am liberal to grant that you MGIHT not be a ***. See how that works? I just did you a solid - a very liberal and generous gesture on my part.
 
 

Cannonpointer » 31 Mar 2022, 3:16 pm » wrote: ↑

31 Mar 2022, 3:16 pm

Vigilant against whom, and why?

Was it because he stood up - an idealistic youth - when the police stood down?

And you say that he wasn't protecting HIS property. So he was protecting his neighbors' property? At 17?

Sounds admirable.

I see that you didn't competently follow the court case. Sworn testimony that went to the jury says otherwise.

You are entitled to your own opinion, **** up and based on emotional misfittery though it be. But you do not get your own facts, no matter HOW much melanin you carry.

Again, counter to what the jury heard. What the JURY heard - and ruled on - was that HE, Rittenhouse, was the hunted and not the hunter.

In fact - sit so ya don't fall, bombshell information coming - it was all on VIDEO. They actually SAY the hunting of the child by felons unfold in real time from multiple angles. And you know what they say. A picture is more valuable than all of the stupid you can spray.

The jackass felon who pulled that gun got himself shot by his better.

So, guilt by association. Very high minded of you. But you are very "liberal" to grant that the kid "MIGHT" not be a white supremacist. Just as I am liberal to grant that you MGIHT not be a ***. See how that works? I just did you a solid, in a very liberal and generous gimme.

Dude, the police have been standing down in riots for decades. 

They stood down on Jan 6. 

They stood down in the LA riots. 

Ever since that Ohio St fiasco. Maybe?

I’m not calling him guilty of white supremacy. I admit I did at first. 

How did those felons know who the kid was? What he was ready to do? Commit a felony himself maybe?

The pistol never came out until he saw a kid with a gun. 



 

Cannonpointer » 31 Mar 2022, 2:48 pm » wrote: ↑

31 Mar 2022, 2:48 pm

Well, heck. At least you had a neutral source - I'll grant you that. I guess THAT is enough to hang your hat on when cosigning torture, Frank Burns. 

One wonders, though (not YOU, clearly, but "one") - were there any Ukrainians who took an opposite view to the ones you saw interviewed, and ended up on the cutting room floor, never to be heard and considered by a gulled audience of midwits?

Y'know those **** "man in the street" interviews that late night television hosts famously conduct, to comedic effect? When they run into a guy who isn't ridiculous - a guy who knows the answers to the simple questions which are only funny when people do not know the answer, - THOSE clips are never aired. No funny there. And for all you know, they have to go through ten people with a brain for each one of the idiots that we laugh at and tisk-tisk at for being so ignorant. 

Y'see how propaganda works? It's all in the EDITING. I can get you anything you want on the web - prove ANYTHING AT ALL to you - if you are willing to be credulous and shut down your cognition - as you have been, repeatedly, on this issue. 

You circled the boat in a thread where your OP foreswore listening to the media ever again on this topic - and then came blazing in as a defender of torture based on media shenanigans. 

THINK, man. THINK.

Then I guess there is no one I can trust...which means I cannot trust you either.  

Cannonpointer » 31 Mar 2022, 2:40 pm » wrote: ↑

31 Mar 2022, 2:40 pm

Oh look. 

That word you forgot to consider.

Instead, you chose to trust your sources, which IF NOT MNBC, sound EXACTLY like MSNBC.

    You are obsessed with lying. Look, if you want to believe me to be a media sheep, then go for it. I genuinely could care less. 

Prosecute both sides of any war crimes.

It's the only just thing to do.

TB7 » 31 Mar 2022, 2:45 pm » wrote: ↑

31 Mar 2022, 2:45 pm

I did advanced reconnaissance operations and gathered intelligence information

From behind a desk.

Blackvegetable » 31 Mar 2022, 4:30 pm » wrote: ↑

31 Mar 2022, 4:30 pm

From behind a desk.

well, the plan does start there. it's called strategic planning. you get the OP ORDER, you review it, go over it with your team, and you execute when ready

anything else you might want to know
I KNOW A LOT OF THESE GUYS
      

Cannonpointer » 31 Mar 2022, 3:03 pm » wrote: ↑

31 Mar 2022, 3:03 pm

Okay. Let's **** do this. 

I will post a faithful copy of your argument, snapback intact. Then you tell me if someone fabricated it. 

If no one did, I just have a COUPLE of questions, the answers to which will tell an astute observer whether you are, IN FACT, repeating the narratives of the same mother **** who called rittenhouse an alt right white supremacist murderer. Y' ready?

Here are my questions - and it's really lovely that they are pretty much in a yes/no format: 

1. Have you been to Ukraine, to gather this intel personally - or do you have trusted agents on the ground?
2. Are you aware that MSNBC is saying this ****, and that they did INDEED call rittenhouse those names?
3. Has no one informed you that the civilian was in truth run over by an A.A. gu piloted by a hastily retreating Ukrainian soldier?

Okay. Your turn.

1.  Nope.
2.  I don’t watch an MSNBC AT ALL.  
3.  I was referring to the tank a few a weeks that obviously swerved to intentionally run over a civilians car.

All war criminals should be brought up on charges. No matter who's side you are on.

dickens » 12 Mar 2022, 9:24 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Mar 2022, 9:24 pm

The treatment of Russian POVs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqdamspLfFc

wonder why those russian POW's where in Ukraine to start with?