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Blackvegetable » 22 Jun 2022, 12:34 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jun 2022, 12:34 pm

Which came first?

The purpose of the design, or the ATF definition?

Clearly, there were full-auto machine guns before there was ever any legislative definition.  Originally, there was no distinction between full-autos and semi-autos - they were all legal for any 18 year old to buy and own. Could buy Tommy Guns at the hardware store.

Some were more difficult to obtain, however.  Like the M1918 Browning BAR. I think those had to be special ordered because there wasn't much call for those. 
 

Skans » 22 Jun 2022, 6:00 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jun 2022, 6:00 pm

Clearly, there were full-auto machine guns before there was ever any legislative definition.  Originally, there was no distinction between full-autos and semi-autos - they were all legal for any 18 year old to buy and own. Could buy Tommy Guns at the hardware store.

Some were more difficult to obtain, however.  Like the M1918 Browning BAR. I think those had to be special ordered because there wasn't much call for those.

What needs to be understood  by many is between the ratification of the bill off rights until the NFA of 1934 there was no federal legislation of firearms.  

James Madison himself enacted policies that were designed to make it easier for the avg citizen to obtain the most advanced firearms of his time.  It could be argued the he wanted citizens to be able to own the same weapons as a national standing army.

@Blackvegetable  

Huey » 22 Jun 2022, 6:31 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jun 2022, 6:31 pm

What needs to be understood  by many is between the ratification of the bill off rights until the NFA of 1934 there was no federal legislation of firearms.  

James Madison himself enacted policies that were designed to make it easier for the avg citizen to obtain the most advanced firearms of his time.  It could be argued the he wanted citizens to be able to own the same weapons as a national standing army.

@Blackvegetable

Must I behold your wanking?


 

Skans » 22 Jun 2022, 6:00 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jun 2022, 6:00 pm

Clearly, there were full-auto machine guns before there was ever any legislative definition.  Originally, there was no distinction between full-autos and semi-autos - they were all legal for any 18 year old to buy and own. Could buy Tommy Guns at the hardware store.

Some were more difficult to obtain, however.  Like the M1918 Browning BAR. I think those had to be special ordered because there wasn't much call for those.

It's not about the "legislative definition".

F'n A.
 

Huey » 22 Jun 2022, 6:31 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jun 2022, 6:31 pm

What needs to be understood  by many is between the ratification of the bill off rights until the NFA of 1934 there was no federal legislation of firearms.  

James Madison himself enacted policies that were designed to make it easier for the avg citizen to obtain the most advanced firearms of his time.  It could be argued the he wanted citizens to be able to own the same weapons as a national standing army.

@Blackvegetable

Both of these points are correct.

Blackvegetable » 22 Jun 2022, 7:33 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jun 2022, 7:33 pm

It's not about the "legislative definition".

F'n A.

Legislative definitions are really the only thing that has any meaning.  I've argued many times with gun-people that the terms: Assault Rifle, Sturmgewehr, and Storm Gun are all nonsense terms. Another nonsense term is "sporting purposes".  The Nazis and the Democrats are masters at making up emotional names for machinery.
 
 

Skans » 22 Jun 2022, 1:16 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jun 2022, 1:16 pm

I think I'm going to rename my AR's , (which just means "Armalite") to "CEKM" - Cheap Efficient Killing Machine.  Or, if I put a lot of money into one of my builds, then EEKM.

  I call mine The War Machine. 
Took it for a spin Sunday. 

 
 

Squatchman » 22 Jun 2022, 11:45 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jun 2022, 11:45 pm

  I call mine The War Machine. 
Took it for a spin Sunday.

War Machine - I like it.  Better than "Storm Gun" - It's amazing to me that this term ever made it as a translation into English, let alone still be in use as much as it is, today.
 

Blackvegetable » 22 Jun 2022, 7:32 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jun 2022, 7:32 pm

Huey » 22 Jun 2022, 6:31 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jun 2022, 6:31 pm

What needs to be understood  by many is between the ratification of the bill off rights until the NFA of 1934 there was no federal legislation of firearms.  

James Madison himself enacted policies that were designed to make it easier for the avg citizen to obtain the most advanced firearms of his time.  It could be argued the he wanted citizens to be able to own the same weapons as a national standing army.

@Blackvegetable

Must I behold your wanking?


 

 

Just for the record the first and second sentences of the post are facts. The last sentence is opinion based on his words and actions. 

Huey » 23 Jun 2022, 7:19 am » wrote: ↑

23 Jun 2022, 7:19 am

Just for the record the first and second sentences of the post are facts. The last sentence is opinion based on his words and actions.

Are they relevant, Wanky?

Blackvegetable » 23 Jun 2022, 7:20 am » wrote: ↑

23 Jun 2022, 7:20 am

Huey » 23 Jun 2022, 7:19 am » wrote: ↑

23 Jun 2022, 7:19 am

Just for the record the first and second sentences of the post are facts. The last sentence is opinion based on his words and actions.

Are they relevant, Wanky?

 

Yes. 

Is this going to be an interrogation or are you going to off facts, narrative, and opinions based on those facts?

Huey » 23 Jun 2022, 7:29 am » wrote: ↑

23 Jun 2022, 7:29 am

Yes. 

Is this going to be an interrogation or are you going to off facts, narrative, and opinions based on those facts?

No...they aren't. 

**** idiot.


 

Blackvegetable » 23 Jun 2022, 7:32 am » wrote: ↑

23 Jun 2022, 7:32 am

Huey » 23 Jun 2022, 7:29 am » wrote: ↑

23 Jun 2022, 7:29 am

Yes. 

Is this going to be an interrogation or are you going to off facts, narrative, and opinions based on those facts?

No...they aren't. 

**** idiot.


 

 

Then we are done here.   

Blackvegetable » 22 Jun 2022, 12:34 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jun 2022, 12:34 pm

Which came first?

The purpose of the design, or the ATF definition?

No questions, dick sucker.

https://i.postimg.cc/C58z4tWb/E52810-BD ... 53-A78.jpg

Cannonpointer » 23 Jun 2022, 9:51 am » wrote: ↑

23 Jun 2022, 9:51 am

No questions, dick sucker.

https://i.postimg.cc/C58z4tWb/E52810-BD ... 53-A78.jpg

Good meme.  But, you're one weird dude.  You think too much about sucking dick and communist-cripple FDR. His wife was a bull dyke who didn't have much use for FDR's flacid penis.  Reminds me of Jill and Joe Biden.  You just know that Jill is getting plowed on the side.
 

Skans » 23 Jun 2022, 10:06 am » wrote: ↑

23 Jun 2022, 10:06 am

Good meme.  But, you're one weird dude.  You think too much about sucking dick and communist-cripple FDR. His wife was a bull dyke who didn't have much use for FDR's flacid penis.  Reminds me of Jill and Joe Biden.  You just know that Jill is getting plowed on the side.

Funny you mention joe and jill, tranny fan.

You've already seen it - and we already know you're good with it. But let's watch your buddy one more time, flake:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcmyUXxFSIM&t=22s

Cannonpointer » 23 Jun 2022, 11:12 am » wrote: ↑

23 Jun 2022, 11:12 am

Funny you mention joe and jill, tranny fan.

You've already seen it - and we already know you're good with it. But let's watch your buddy one more time, flake:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcmyUXxFSIM&t=22s

If you are about 6' tall, 5'2" Putin would be just about the right size to suck your dick. You should write him an email and see if he'll meet you at the Flying J where homos regularly meet up.



Knees to ears, Jill, come on, you know how its done!
 

Sometimes Blond Guns Matter. I've been wanting one of these - Browning X-bolt gold Medallion since I saw one at a gun show for $900. I stupidly passed it up!!


 

Here's an ugly gun that just works. Kel-tec 308 Bullpup, semi-auto.  You can still find them for about $1,100, if you look hard enough.  Someday, folks will wish they bought one.

The AK-5, wish we could still purchase these gems in the US.  But, sadly, due to HW Bush's '89 import ban, we can't.



Basically, it's a modernized FN FNC.  The FNC was the best 5.56 rifle ever made.


This is the one to get, Boys and Girls.  BREN CZ 805.  In 7.62x39 or  - - -on my list!!!