Black Guns Matter.....

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By Skans
5 Apr 2022 9:19 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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FJB » 17 Apr 2022, 7:52 am » wrote: *** the backwoods cousin **** dirtbag
Another jealous republican. ^^^^^^^^^
I get under your skin and I love it!
Maybe you ,Antifa killer and that Arach dude can pool your money and go buy a gun.
 I would suggest a kit because they're cheaper but then you would need to ask for my help assembling it.
 
 
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Squatchman » 17 Apr 2022, 7:58 am » wrote: Another jealous republican. ^^^^^^^^^
I get under your skin and I love it!
Maybe you ,Antifa killer and that Arach dude can pool your money and go buy a gun.
 I would suggest a kit because they're cheaper but then you would need to ask for my help assembling it.
sad when you assume... FYI I own plenty of guns and even reload...
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17 Apr 2022 8:07 am
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FJB » 17 Apr 2022, 8:00 am » wrote: . FYI I own plenty of guns and even reload...
  I know this already.
I also know you're a fellow gun owner.
I actually respect you for that but you can't seem to muster respect for me owning guns.
So I treat you in like form when you troll me about guns.
 What's sad is we can't find common ground on our common ground. Not from my side but from yours.
 Your hate? ,not sure exactly, keeps you from seeing seat we really aren't that much different ,Duck.
 
  
 
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Squatchman » 17 Apr 2022, 8:07 am » wrote:   I know this already.
I also know you're a fellow gun owner.
I actually respect you for that but you can't seem to muster respect for me owning guns.
So I treat you in like form when you troll me about guns.
 What's sad is we can't find common ground on our common ground. Not from my side but from yours.
 Your hate? ,not sure exactly, keeps you from seeing seat we really aren't that much different ,Duck.

Oh My, when you are talking about guns here, I leave you alone. I to have respect for you. It's when you talk politics that I bust your chops
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17 Apr 2022 12:30 pm
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Squatchman » 17 Apr 2022, 4:01 am » wrote: Is everyone scared to admit they have guns here?
I'm not.
In fact here is one of the most feared black guns if not the most feared.
All I've added to this one is the offset rail for the red dot optic,a sling and a Franklin binary trigger. Bayonet is in the works.
This one just had 400 rounds pumped through it yesterday. Flawlessly.
. Palmetto State Armory Nitride Freedom Rifle.

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NOW WE'RE TALKING!!!  I want to discuss that Black Gun of yours....
  • First, tell me what optic you have on there.  How dare you go around posting sexy pictures like that without discussing the body parts!
  • Second - that rifle does not need a bayonet.
  • Third, I like the grip with some storage - what do you keep in there, batteries or a some "just in case" rounds?
  • Fourth, and this is the one I really want to discuss - the Franklin Binary trigger. Which Gen?  I have a Franklin Binary trigger on one of my AR's and a Fostech Echo on the other.  My Franklin is a 1st Gen - self-contained unit which needs some fitting.  If I really want to I can out-run it, but only if I really try.  The Echo is impossible to outrun.  However, the Franklin is crisp, fairly light and fast.  The Echo is a bit heavier.  They make a set of springs for the Echo to lighten the trigger up some - I will probably order a set.  Needless to say, I really like the Franklin and the Echo - these triggers are the "fo shizzle".
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Squatchman » 17 Apr 2022, 2:29 am » wrote:   It seems like someone from .net doesn't like us.
Shocking I tell you.
Either that or he doesn't believe in the 2nd amendment.
Also like me,you most likely were a member here before he was.
I like having all you guys here.
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Squatchman » 17 Apr 2022, 3:33 am » wrote:   My wife alluded to it when I had all of my guns out in the open once. I had them all out of the closet to take pictures for insurance.
 All she said was,"Thats quite an arsenal you have going these days ,don't they make gun safes?"
 That's why I wondered how one is moved. I think I should get one. Right now most are in cases standing in a closet except for the black ones. Those ones are where we can get our hands on them
The very best time to buy an expensive safe, or upgrade to a more expensive safe, is when the wife suggests it.  If you don't seize the moment, that is a sad, missed opportunity.   There may be one exception to this rule, and that would be @Imgreatagain.  If you were married to her (significant other, etc), she might be the one moving your junk to the side to make room for her own choice firearms.  Might need His and Hers safes.
 
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Skans » 17 Apr 2022, 12:30 pm » wrote: NOW WE'RE TALKING!!!  I want to discuss that Black Gun of yours....
  • First, tell me what optic you have on there.  How dare you go around posting sexy pictures like that without discussing the body parts!
  • Second - that rifle does not need a bayonet.
  • Third, I like the grip with some storage - what do you keep in there, batteries or a some "just in case" rounds?
  • Fourth, and this is the one I really want to discuss - the Franklin Binary trigger. Which Gen?  I have a Franklin Binary trigger on one of my AR's and a Fostech Echo on the other.  My Franklin is a 1st Gen - self-contained unit which needs some fitting.  If I really want to I can out-run it, but only if I really try.  The Echo is impossible to outrun.  However, the Franklin is crisp, fairly light and fast.  The Echo is a bit heavier.  They make a set of springs for the Echo to lighten the trigger up some - I will probably order a set.  Needless to say, I really like the Franklin and the Echo - these triggers are the "fo shizzle".
  The optic is a cheaper Axxeon. 3 color. It works excellent. Mounted on a tru glo 33 degree offset mount.
 It might not need a bayonet but I want one.
 I'm into sharp things too..
 I keep a spare battery and front sight tool in the grip.
 The Franklin is a 3rd generation I believe. Got it from PSA. Same place the gun is from. Dropped right in. It works excellent. I can't outrun it. It's crisp and light enough for me. I'm used to Glock triggers. Which I ride the reset on so they're almost like a binary trigger. Works great for the 9mm. but that 10mm tends to want to keep rising.
 I almost went with Fostech but since I like doing with Palmetto State Armory and it's what they sell I went with the Franklin for $300.00.
 Yesterday my daughters and I really worked it hard. Really hard. 500 rounds as fast as we could. I wanted to see if I could get the gun to malfunction. None. But it was literally smoking afterwards. Warmed up our hands holding them by the barrel.
 I am very pleased with this gun.
 For just military specs it is as accurate as anything I've shot excluding my brothers 7mm mag.
 
 
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FJB » 17 Apr 2022, 8:14 am » wrote: Oh My, when you are talking about guns here, I leave you alone. I to have respect for you. It's when you talk politics that I bust your chops
  You know that I actually like you.
 You don't back down and I find that to be an excellent trait.
 Politics sucks to begin with and if guns helps us find something we can agree on I'm all for it dude.
 
 
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Huey » 17 Apr 2022, 12:34 pm » wrote: I like having all you guys here.
  I like being here.
I'm not going anywhere.

 
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18 Apr 2022 9:02 am
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Squatchman » 18 Apr 2022, 7:31 am » wrote:   The optic is a cheaper Axxeon. 3 color. It works excellent. Mounted on a tru glo 33 degree offset mount.
 It might not need a bayonet but I want one.
 I'm into sharp things too..
 I keep a spare battery and front sight tool in the grip.
 The Franklin is a 3rd generation I believe. Got it from PSA. Same place the gun is from. Dropped right in. It works excellent. I can't outrun it. It's crisp and light enough for me. I'm used to Glock triggers. Which I ride the reset on so they're almost like a binary trigger. Works great for the 9mm. but that 10mm tends to want to keep rising.
 I almost went with Fostech but since I like doing with Palmetto State Armory and it's what they sell I went with the Franklin for $300.00.
 Yesterday my daughters and I really worked it hard. Really hard. 500 rounds as fast as we could. I wanted to see if I could get the gun to malfunction. None. But it was literally smoking afterwards. Warmed up our hands holding them by the barrel.
 I am very pleased with this gun.
 For just military specs it is as accurate as anything I've shot excluding my brothers 7mm mag.
the 1st gen Franklin Binary is a really nicely made piece of machinery.  I felt I got what I paid for when I received it.  The new kit looks like little work went into producing it, but I've heard the same as you have, that it works well.  The fostech is nicely made as well.  Both are good systems.
 
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Skans » 18 Apr 2022, 9:02 am » wrote: the 1st gen Franklin Binary is a really nicely made piece of machinery.  I felt I got what I paid for when I received it.  The new kit looks like little work went into producing it, but I've heard the same as you have, that it works well.  The fostech is nicely made as well.  Both are good systems.
  I like mine.
I also like the fact that these guns are legos for adults.
I think I saw somewhere that binary trigger systems can be had for Glock pistols.
 
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Squatchman » 18 Apr 2022, 10:45 am » wrote:   I like mine.
I also like the fact that these guns are legos for adults.
I think I saw somewhere that binary trigger systems can be had for Glock pistols.
I hadn't heard about that, but that's pretty crazy.  Great for double-taps. Beyond that, in a pistol, probably just an ammo-waster.  In a rifle, you can get pretty proficient at getting several rapid shots on target.  Is it as good as tri-burst?  Very close to it, I'd say.
 
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Skans » 18 Apr 2022, 11:02 am » wrote: I hadn't heard about that, but that's pretty crazy.  Great for double-taps. Beyond that, in a pistol, probably just an ammo-waster.  In a rifle, you can get pretty proficient at getting several rapid shots on target.  Is it as good as tri-burst?  Very close to it, I'd say.
  I wouldn't get one either.
Double taps come learning trigger reset.
It would probably be pretty hard to control for a triple tap.
Mine show up on paper as a hole about 2 inches above the first round.
A 3rd would probably be 4 inches above that if not more.
I'm going to start trying them. Sounds fun.
 
 
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18 Apr 2022 11:09 am
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Squatchman » 18 Apr 2022, 11:06 am » wrote:   I wouldn't get one either.
Double taps come learning trigger reset.
 
That's a big deal with Glocks, and one of the reasons I don't particularly like Glocks.  Trigger reset is easier (for me, anyway) in DA/SA and SA pistols with less trigger uptake.  I have a G17, and I'm ok with it, but it is not by far the gun I prefer to shoot.
 
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18 Apr 2022 11:33 am
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I'm not good at triple taps with any pistol; just practice double taps, but with non. I do have tri-burst on my AC556. This is my go-to comparison for full auto / tri-burst vs. binary triggers.
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Skans » 18 Apr 2022, 11:09 am » wrote: That's a big deal with Glocks, and one of the reasons I don't particularly like Glocks.  Trigger reset is easier (for me, anyway) in DA/SA and SA pistols with less trigger uptake.  I have a G17, and I'm ok with it, but it is not by far the gun I prefer to shoot.
  Just have to shoot those Glocks a lot I guess.
I have an advantage in my son in law,the Sooper Trooper. Being issued G17s and 43xs they had instructors to teach them. He brings all of his training to our range days.
 
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Squatchman » 18 Apr 2022, 11:45 am » wrote:   Just have to shoot those Glocks a lot I guess.
I have an advantage in my son in law,the Sooper Trooper. Being issued G17s and 43xs they had instructors to teach them. He brings all of his training to our range days.
Yeah, I know, I've had people show me the "right way" to shoot Glocks.  But, here's the thing, I'll beat the pants off of most good shooters using a  tricked out Glock with my Sig X-Five Competition.  There simply is no comparison.  I'm an average shooter - nothing spectacular, but I've done a fair amount of shooting, games, etc.  The Sig makes me feel like I'm freaking cheating when I go up against the Glock boys.  They can't get the accuracy out of their glocks and keep the pace up.

Don't get me wrong, Glocks are good guns and great for the military for several good reasons.  But, I've never been all that good with one, and its never been my go-to gun.
 
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Skans » 18 Apr 2022, 11:56 am » wrote: Yeah, I know, I've had people show me the "right way" to shoot Glocks.  But, here's the thing, I'll beat the pants off of most good shooters using a  tricked out Glock with my Sig X-Five Competition.  There simply is no comparison.  I'm an average shooter - nothing spectacular, but I've done a fair amount of shooting, games, etc.  The Sig makes me feel like I'm freaking cheating when I go up against the Glock boys.  They can't get the accuracy out of their glocks and keep the pace up.

Don't get me wrong, Glocks are good guns and great for the military for several good reasons.  But, I've never been all that good with one, and its never been my go-to gun.
  
Sigs are just good guns.
They have better triggers and sights from the factory.
I've only fired one and liked it but they're too nice for me. P220 hunter in 10mm. Beautiful with the kryptic camo.
 I shot my bosses CZ 75 sport in .40 s&w.
 Now that pistol......whoa!
Too nice for what I'll put it through,same goes for the Sigs. Operating this machine is a contact sport and I'm not sure any gun but a Glock can take it day in,day out. Maybe. But the expense to find out is too high.
 If I break one of these Glocks I can afford to get it fixed.
 



 
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Squatchman » 18 Apr 2022, 12:37 pm » wrote:   
Sigs are just good guns.
They have better triggers and sights from the factory.
I've only fired one and liked it but they're too nice for me. P220 hunter in 10mm. Beautiful with the kryptic camo.
 I shot my bosses CZ 75 sport in .40 s&w.
 Now that pistol......whoa!
Too nice for what I'll put it through,same goes for the Sigs. Operating this machine is a contact sport and I'm not sure any gun but a Glock can take it day in,day out. Maybe. But the expense to find out is too high.
 If I break one of these Glocks I can afford to get it fixed.
ImageGlocks don't break!  How dare you!!!
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