Enslaved black people was the main reason America’s wealth grew so quickly.

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By Pastafarian
13 Apr 2022 12:57 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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Beekeeper » 16 Apr 2022, 8:09 am » wrote: Are you going to push that BULL **** on everyone when there is absolutely ZERO facts surrounding that statement??

The FACTS are that the Democrats had to "rebrand" and they simply omitted the NASTY STUFF they did to blacks for over a century and a half.

You are a MORON if you think for one second that we buy into that one, MORONIC IMBECILE!!!
In the present day Republicans are the party of racism.
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Pastafarian » 16 Apr 2022, 4:30 am » wrote: Impressive. 

I will look up your recommendation.

He is mostly known for book "before the Mayflower." That was a great one. However, I think "The Shaping of Black America" is more informative with respect to how slavery affected all of America up through the 60s. 
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Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...

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Vegas » 15 Apr 2022, 6:47 pm » wrote: This is true. African American history is quite fascinating. If you ever get a chance, read anything by Lerone Bennet, but mostly "The Shaping of Black America." I have read quite a bit of history of black America. It's impossible to have obtained the wealth that we have without slavery or exploitation of blacks after they were freed. The history is so dense with examples after examples, it would be impossible to go over all of it. 

A lot is said about their contributions to agricultural commodities when they were on the plantations. That's obviously important. However, there is much else that exploitation of blacks provided. One example, that I found interesting, was the shaping of neighborhoods. Harlem was the first known ghetto. Landlords saw the potential of money to be made off blacks by providing them with **** accommodations. Harlem neighborhoods used to be filled with whites. However, whites were too expensive to please. Landlords weren't making much money off of them. They knew that if they lured blacks into the buildings, then whites would move out. Sure enough, landlords pandered to the blacks. The whites moved out. The difference is that the landlords had no obligation to spend money on their apartments. Which is why they were ****. Landlords made bank while the neighborhoods segregated into black/white. From there, the government saw the potential of the community as a whole benefitting from a socioeconomic standpoint. The rest is history, we still have the ghettos today.
What are you, rational all of a sudden?
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
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slideman » 16 Apr 2022, 11:12 am » wrote: What are you, rational all of a sudden?
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Lol

You wouldn't know anything about being rational. I am still waiting for you to say something that is at least half logical. 
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Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
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Pastafarian » 15 Apr 2022, 5:54 am » wrote: Sure, slavery has been part of America to this day. 

During Jim Crow, black folks were paid less for the same work a white man did. 

Today, low minimum wage enslaved the poor while corporations make record profits.
And yet you support an asshole like Biden opening the border to MILLIONS of additional "low-wage" workers that KEEPS their wages from rising!

Do you idiot leftists EVER consider such obvious conflicts in your empty heads?
 
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Pastafarian » 14 Apr 2022, 4:22 am » wrote: Those Democrat slaveholders’ ancestors are Republican today. You can ask some of them. They post on here like Mirabeau and Taipan, probably FOS and GhettoBlaster as well. 

You lie about everything. 

America’s quick wealth began bcuz of slave labor.
If that weren't so simplistically stupid, you'd be able to explain then why Africa is still such a poor continent despite their continuing use of slavery.

Care to defend your retarded conclusion?
 
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Zeets2 » 16 Apr 2022, 11:59 am » wrote: If that weren't so simplistically stupid, you'd be able to explain then why Africa is still such a poor continent despite their continuing use of slavery.

Care to defend your retarded conclusion?
It’s not hard. 

We continue to exploit Africa through corporate hegemony. Diamonds, oil and all that good **** we love so much. 

Or through proxy wars we fought against communism and Islam.

If you are too stupid to believe the American govt of the past then I can’t help you. 
 
 
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Zeets2 » 16 Apr 2022, 11:56 am » wrote: And yet you support an asshole like Biden opening the border to MILLIONS of additional "low-wage" workers that KEEPS their wages from rising!

Do you idiot leftists EVER consider such obvious conflicts in your empty heads?
support Biden? Not really. 

I support progressive policies which are hampered by the Biden govt. 
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slideman » 16 Apr 2022, 9:56 am » wrote: In the present day Republicans are the party of racism.
Now that is some superfluous BS if there ever was any!!!

Democrats have RACISM CORNERED as they have for nearly 2 centuries. You show your total ignorance with your posts like these.
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slideman » 16 Apr 2022, 9:53 am » wrote: In the present day Republicans are the party of racism.
When racism mattered racists voted Democrat. Democrats are still the most preoccupied with race, they just changed from segregation from a race they believe inferior to capitalizing on a race that they believe inferior.  Slight change in tactics.
 
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Pastafarian » 16 Apr 2022, 4:28 am » wrote: They all profited. 

Are you struggling with reading comprehension?

America’s wealth grew quickly bcuz of slavery. And in turn our power and influence grew quick as well. 

You’re welcome for making America the greatest country ever. 

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Most every country had slaves.  So why did America grow faster than all those other countries doing the same thing?
And you had nothing to do with it, so quit trying to pretend you have any moral authority to say "you're welcome" to anyone.
 
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Zeets2 » 16 Apr 2022, 11:59 am » wrote: If that weren't so simplistically stupid, you'd be able to explain then why Africa is still such a poor continent despite their continuing use of slavery.

Care to defend your retarded conclusion?
Faulty reasoning. Slavery per se does not lead to prosperity. Plantation slavery engaged in for profit production of cash crops, predominantly cotton, tobacco and indigo, are what led to prosperity of the South. After the Civil War, debt peonage of both Black and White sharecroppers, led to prosperity of a select few.

Just as the internal combustion engine in taxis, buses and trucks is profitable, but teenyboppers cruising on weekends is not.
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Wow...another "I'm owed something because I'm black" thread...who started this one?...and how much does he think he's owed?
 
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Xavier_Onassis » 16 Apr 2022, 3:08 pm » wrote: Faulty reasoning. Slavery per se does not lead to prosperity. Plantation slavery engaged in for profit production of cash crops, predominantly cotton, tobacco and indigo, are what led to prosperity of the South. After the Civil War, debt peonage of both Black and White sharecroppers, led to prosperity of a select few.

Just as the internal combustion engine in taxis, buses and trucks is profitable, but teenyboppers cruising on weekends is not.
Hate to tell you, MORON, but "teenyboppers cruising on weekends" is VERY profitable!!!

For the CAR DEALERS and manufacturers who made the cars, to the vendors along the way who they BUY FOOD AND THINGS from, to the gas station they buy that gas from, and the BODY SHOPS who fix the damage they caused when they wrecked the car.

You seem to be a bitter little troll and one that you mommy and daddy never trusted with a car of their own!!
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Should we thank the African tribes who enslaved them first before selling them to the world? It's what they do over there.
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DeplorablePatriot » 16 Apr 2022, 3:32 pm » wrote: Should we thank the African tribes who enslaved them first before selling them to the world? It's what they do over there.
No, it is not.  It is not actually possible to purchase slaves in Africa and export the slaves to your plantation.
Slavery exists among a small population in Mauritania and Morocco.
Arabs in Saudi Arabia, the UAE and Kuwait hire nannies from Kenya, Uganda, the Philippines, and other places, and refuse to pay them wages or allow them to leave.

 
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Xavier_Onassis » 16 Apr 2022, 3:37 pm » wrote: No, it is not.  It is not actually possible to purchase slaves in Africa and export the slaves to your plantation.
Slavery exists among a small population in Mauritania and Morocco.
Arabs in Saudi Arabia, the UAE and Kuwait hire nannies from Kenya, Uganda, the Philippines, and other places, and refuse to pay them wages or allow them to leave.

My bust. It's what they DID over there. They sold their own people. Disgusting at the worst level. They were savages and still remain so. Especially in our American cities.
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Pastafarian » 16 Apr 2022, 4:35 am » wrote: Yet you fail to mention that railroads were built with slave labor then with a reduced wage labor. 
 
And you fail to mention that it was the grit, energy and vision of the slave masters that produced what the slaves would never have produced on their own. 

Their labor was not stolen - it was compelled. The difference is this: "Stolen" implies it would have existed, but for the compulsion. It would not have.

My white ancestors caused a nation to come into being that you and your black brethren are sponging off of and tearing down while crying about the unfairness of life.
 
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Cannonpointer » 16 Apr 2022, 3:47 pm » wrote: And you fail to mention that it was the grit, energy and vision of the slave masters that produced what the slaves would never have produced on their own. 

Their labor was not stolen - it was compelled. The difference is this: "Stolen" implies it would have existed, but for the compulsion. It would not have.

My white ancestors caused a nation to come into being that you and your black brethren are sponging off of and tearing down while crying about the unfairness of life.

*** starts with enslaved black people and forgets that the chinks made up the majority of laborers on the RR. Not forced either. They came here for the jobs.
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