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Pastafarian » 06 Sep 2022, 3:02 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Sep 2022, 3:02 pm

1964.

Damn '63
 

Underpaid fast food workers made McDonald's a multi billion dollar company. More truth in that than the op.

Cedar » 06 Sep 2022, 3:16 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Sep 2022, 3:16 pm

Damn '63

lol

Neo » 06 Sep 2022, 3:20 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Sep 2022, 3:20 pm

Underpaid fast food workers made McDonald's a multi billion dollar company. More truth in that than the op.

Of course, both are true and you know it.

But your sympathies lie elsewhere. 
 

There are many ways that rich people became richer in this country, Not only plantation owners, exploiting slaves, but also McDonald's exploiting (originally) teenagers. Also, driving the Indians off their land,  paying Central American immigrants low wages to dismember chickens, pigs and cattle.  Peddling drinking water at $1.00 a bottle for water from the municipal wells people have paid to develop.

 

Pastafarian » 06 Sep 2022, 3:24 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Sep 2022, 3:24 pm

Of course, both are true and you know it.

But your sympathies lie elsewhere.

It wasn't applying Fords assembly line principles to food.
it wasn't maximizing supply chain to ensure uniform product. 
it wasn't inventing new technologies to optimize their offerings.
it wasn't thousands of hours standardizing practices allowing for easy franchise.

McDonald's success was all built on **** minimum wage workers. That level of delusion is beyond redress. 

Neo » 06 Sep 2022, 3:35 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Sep 2022, 3:35 pm

It wasn't applying Fords assembly line principles to food.
it wasn't maximizing supply chain to ensure uniform product. 
it wasn't inventing new technologies to optimize their offerings.
it wasn't thousands of hours standardizing practices allowing for easy franchise.

McDonald's success was all built on **** minimum wage workers. That level of delusion is beyond redress.

Not all but it sure helped. 

They’d be out of business if they had been unionized a long time ago. 
 

Xavier_Onassis » 06 Sep 2022, 3:32 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Sep 2022, 3:32 pm

There are many ways that rich people became richer in this country, Not only plantation owners, exploiting slaves, but also McDonald's exploiting (originally) teenagers. Also, driving the Indians off their land,  paying Central American immigrants low wages to dismember chickens, pigs and cattle.  Peddling drinking water at $1.00 a bottle for water from the municipal wells people have paid to develop.

What you call exploitation I call opportunity. In Africa battlefield captures had little value. They worked them in hard labor and then killed the prisoners when they were no longer useful. Didn't usually bother taking women or children alive. Slavery gave them opportunity to live. To have families. To eventually contribute to the fabric of America in ways far beyond menial labor.

First job in high-school was fast food. Great introduction and training on hoe business, customer service, food preparation, invoicing, and ultimately business management operates. The owner took the risk at 3.25 an hour. They gave me opportunity. 

**** the progeny of slaves that have forgotten that, even for their enslaved ancestors, America was a land of new opportunity. 
 
 

Pastafarian » 06 Sep 2022, 3:36 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Sep 2022, 3:36 pm

Not all but it sure helped. 

They’d be out of business if they had been unionized a long time ago.

Detroit agrees. Not sure that example proves your point or mine.
 

Neo » 06 Sep 2022, 3:43 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Sep 2022, 3:43 pm

Detroit agrees. Not sure that example proves your point or mine.

Greed won the day. 

You must feel so proud. 

 

Pastafarian » 06 Sep 2022, 3:48 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Sep 2022, 3:48 pm

Greed won the day. 

You must feel so proud.

That's how you see the fall of Detroit? I agree. Greedy unions, along with increased foreign competition, killed Detroit. 
 

Pastafarian » 06 Sep 2022, 6:47 am » wrote: ↑

06 Sep 2022, 6:47 am

By paying less for black labor?

By destroying the black family?

By enacting laws where blacks could not vote?

White peoples sure have a funny notion of equality. 

You’re welcome, retard.

You're cheerleading for the idiocrats that destroyed the black family and didn't want blacks to vote....you should learn a little bit about history before you start running your uninformed mouth.  Do you know anything at all?

Detroit is a perfect modern cautionary tale against unionization. Americas ghettos survive as a working cautionary tale about welfare, government dependence, and the destructive power of beliving oneself a perpetual victim.

Pastafarian » 13 Apr 2022, 12:57 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Apr 2022, 12:57 pm

You’re welcome, white America.

So instead of killing each other by the dozen in Major American Cities across the nation, African Americans were at one point and time   productive members of society. 

 Unwittingly you have put forth the best argument ever to bring back  slavery in America. 



On a serious note , Some how this Pastafarian fella is taking some sort of pride from the fact his or her's ancestors were forced to do the **** work white people did not want to do. Forced,  I can't put enough emphasize on the word Forced.


African Americans literally did the  sort of work beast of burden (mules, donkeys and horses ) were used for. They were literally beasts of burdens themselves that just happened to have thumbs. 


Take the Washington monument for example, African Americans supplied most of the manual labor for it's construction.
They did not have any say so in the design, nor could they understand any aspect of the engineering process for the monument to stand up right. S

You must also keep in mind the actual  contributions pertaining to the construction of the United States came from the lash of a whip.
 If my ancestors were not able to broker a deal with the African kings and Muslim slave traders to bring these people of burden to this great land, they would have simply paid the Irish a minuscule  wage to do what the blacks were forced to do. 
A few potatoes, maybe a schilling here and there and it would have been done. . 

  



 

Xavier_Onassis » 06 Sep 2022, 3:32 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Sep 2022, 3:32 pm

There are many ways that rich people became richer in this country, Not only plantation owners, exploiting slaves, but also McDonald's exploiting (originally) teenagers. Also, driving the Indians off their land,  paying Central American immigrants low wages to dismember chickens, pigs and cattle.  Peddling drinking water at $1.00 a bottle for water from the municipal wells people have paid to develop.

CHECK OUT THE  VICTIMOLOGY PROFESSOR STILL SPEWING  HIS COMMUNIST GARBAGE.
TRY TO IMAGINE A SOCIETY WHERE GOVERNMENT MANDATES THAT  THE McDONALDS FRENCH FRY TECHNICIAN  SHALL MAKE AS MUCH MONEY AS A LICENSED BEAUTICIAN, AS A GARBAGE TRUCK DRIVER  OR AS MUCH AS A DITCH DIGGER. 
SORRY..THE CURRENT SYSTEM WORKS VERY WELL AS DESIGNED. 
A FEW DAYS AGO I MADE A VERY RARE APPEARANCE AT THE JACK IN THE BOX DRIVE UP MENU. 
MAINLY OUT OF CURIOSITY.
IT WAS SHOCKING TO SEE SO MUCH GARBAGE LISTED AT $10 -$13..!  
A JUMBO JACK WAS LISTED AT $4 ..but by the time you add fries and a drink you are over  the $10 mark which is totally ridiculous for that garbage.
What made me laugh is that TWO TACOS ARE ONLY $1.39....   I mean 50 years ago TWO TACOS WERE 99 CENTS.....  
SO WHY ISN'T TEAM BIDEN BRAGGING ABOUT TWO TACOS AT JACK IN THE BOX AS A LEADING ECONOMIC INDICATOR...?   ..  
 
 
 

Neo » 06 Sep 2022, 4:27 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Sep 2022, 4:27 pm

Detroit is a perfect modern cautionary tale against unionization. Americas ghettos survive as a working cautionary tale about welfare, government dependence, and the destructive power of beliving oneself a perpetual victim.

​​​​​​Chicago and Detroit both went down hill during the great northern migration of blacks from southern states to northern states during the forties.  
It barley took thirty years for blacks to send Detroit on an irreversible downward spiral to the  third world **** hole it is today. I mean **** sakes it has everything that takes a third world **** to exist today. Lack of industry, abandoned buildings and Muslim leadership.

Blacks also  turned the south side of Chicago into a failed city state rivaling that of a civil war torn country such as Uganda. 

The prohibition gangstas  didn't even come close to **** south Chicago up like the blacks have done. 

Hank » 06 Sep 2022, 4:43 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Sep 2022, 4:43 pm

​​​​​​Chicago and Detroit both went down hill during the great northern migration of blacks from southern states to northern states during the forties.  
It barley took thirty years for blacks to send Detroit on an irreversible downward spiral to the  third world **** hole it is today. I mean **** sakes it has everything that takes a third world **** to exist today. Lack of industry, abandoned buildings and Muslim leadership.

Blacks also  turned the south side of Chicago into a failed city state rivaling that of a civil war torn country such as Uganda. 

The prohibition gangstas  didn't even come close to **** south Chicago up like the blacks have done.

Replace blacks with socialist labor unions and I would agree. The communist left have oft used racial minorities as their canaries in the coal mine. Ask the Irish. 
 

Let's go over fairy tale history of African American achievements through out U.S and world  history. 

The claim Black Africans built the pyramids.

The problem, it was thought, is that mummy DNA couldn’t be sequenced. But a group of international researchers, using unique methods, have overcome the barriers to do just that. They found that the ancient Egyptians were most closely related to the peoples of the Near East, particularly from the Levant. This is the Eastern Mediterranean which today includes the countries of Turkey, Iraq, Israel, Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon. The mummies used were from the New Kingdom and a later period, (a period later than the Middle Kingdom) when Egypt was under Roman rule

 

The fairy tale the Tuskegee Airmen Never lost a bomber
During the first sixty years following World War II, a powerful myth grew up claiming that the Tuskegee Airmen, the only black American military pilots in the war, had been the only fighter escort group never to have lost a bomber to enemy aircraft fire. The myth was enshrined in articles, books, museum exhibits, television programs, and films.

This ebook article explores how the "never lost a bomber" myth originated and grew, and then refutes it conclusively with careful reference to primary source documents located at the Air Force Historical Research Agency. By piecing together these historical documents, Daniel Haulman not only proves that sometimes bombers under the escort of the Tuskegee Airmen were shot down by enemy aircraft, but when and where those losses occurred, and to which groups they belonged.

 

Garret Morgan invented the traffic light fairy tale. 
According to MotorBiscuit, the first ever traffic light, designed by John Peake Knight, was gas fueled. It was installed in London, England on Dec. 10, 1868, right outside of the House of Parliament. At the time, the traffic light only had two signals: green for go and red for stop.Nov 17, 2021

 The fairy tale George Washington Carver invented peanut butterJohn Harvey Kellogg
John Harvey Kellogg (the creator of Kellogg's cereal) patented a process for creating peanut butter from raw peanuts. He marketed it as a nutritious protein substitute for people who could hardly chew on solid food. In 1903, Dr

I could go on all day

 

Neo » 06 Sep 2022, 4:51 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Sep 2022, 4:51 pm

Replace blacks with socialist labor unions and I would agree. The communist left have oft used racial minorities as their canaries in the coal mine. Ask the Irish.

I disagree with that entirely ... 
When you get blacks into a position where it is almost impossible to be fired they literally quit working. That was the problems having blacks take union jobs in Detroit. They were protected by the unions and almost impossible to fire and even harder to replace since the white flight took place shortly after the great migration. 


 
The big three said **** it and left town.
Detroit filed for bankruptcy in 1957, not even two decades after the great migration north.