Enslaved black people was the main reason America’s wealth grew so quickly.

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By Pastafarian
13 Apr 2022 12:57 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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Beekeeper » 02 Feb 2023, 7:59 am » wrote: There is very little, if ANY "old money" in this nation today. So you beliefs are rooted in stupidity and conjecture. Take your garbage thread and leave, you liar. You are no more a "psychologist" than Mickey Mouse is.

What you are is an angry, bitter, nasty and filthy little black boy with a chip on your shoulder than you have had knocked off way to many times and it's turned you into some POS no one likes.
^^^the daughter **** is mad. 

Hahahahahahaha
 
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Beekeeper » 02 Feb 2023, 7:59 am » wrote: There is very little, if ANY "old money" in this nation today. So you beliefs are rooted in stupidity and conjecture. Take your garbage thread and leave, you liar. You are no more a "psychologist" than Mickey Mouse is.

What you are is an angry, bitter, nasty and filthy little black boy with a chip on your shoulder than you have had knocked off way to many times and it's turned you into some POS no one likes.

pasta the little boy is still selling drugs off his porch in the hood.
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FJB » 02 Feb 2023, 7:51 am » wrote: the biggest owner of slaves back than was a black man.
this is true. 
not something that whites did, is it? 
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Pastafarian » 13 Apr 2022, 12:57 pm » wrote: You’re welcome, white America.

Keep up the good work Pasta...



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Pastafarian » 02 Feb 2023, 8:05 am » wrote: the daughter **** is mad. 
 
Why bring Biden into the conversation?  :die:  
 
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Pastafarian » 02 Feb 2023, 7:48 am » wrote: when one acts immorally expect consequences. 
 
No.  There are morals and then there are laws.  The US government broke the law.  Those plantation owners were due compensation for the property that was taken from them.  Morality has nothing to do with it.  I assure you that if your city government came in and took whatever property you own or live on, and decided they just weren't going to pay you anything, you'd have a ****-fit over it.

Their wealth stripped is karma ...
 
Karma is irrelevant.
Sucks to be an owner of people, ****.
If that it true, it could suck to be an owner of gold, computer, cell phone, land, house, apartment - whatever it is that the government decides it wants to take from you because they think it's "morally right".  I'll remember that when Conservatives control things again.  We can take pot-plantations away from owners without compensation, BECAUSE IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO - SUCKS TO BE A DOPE-DEALER, F-FACE.
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FJB » 02 Feb 2023, 7:51 am » wrote: the biggest owner of slaves back than was a black man.
That is a LIE, which is why you did not post his name.
And it does not a matter, either, because the problem with slavery is that it was illegal and has always been inhumane.
FJB (dumbduck) is pulling ancient  lies out of defective pro-slavery propaganda.
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Skans » 02 Feb 2023, 9:37 am » wrote: No.  There are morals and then there are laws.  The US government broke the law.  Those plantation owners were due compensation for the property that was taken from them.  Morality has nothing to do with it.  I assure you that if your city government came in and took whatever property you own or live on, and decided they just weren't going to pay you anything, you'd have a ****-fit over it.

Karma is irrelevant.

If that it true, it could suck to be an owner of gold, computer, cell phone, land, house, apartment - whatever it is that the government decides it wants to take from you because they think it's "morally right".  I'll remember that when Conservatives control things again.  We can take pot-plantations away from owners without compensation, BECAUSE IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO - SUCKS TO BE A DOPE-DEALER, F-FACE.
Laws can be immoral. 

Morality has everything to do with owning people, sociopath. 

Gols and material possessions are not people. Material goods don’t feel or bleed. Bad analogy. 
 
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Skans » 02 Feb 2023, 9:37 am » wrote: No.  There are morals and then there are laws.  The US government broke the law.  Those plantation owners were due compensation for the property that was taken from them.  Morality has nothing to do with it.  I assure you that if your city government came in and took whatever property you own or live on, and decided they just weren't going to pay you anything, you'd have a ****-fit over it.

Karma is irrelevant.

If that it true, it could suck to be an owner of gold, computer, cell phone, land, house, apartment - whatever it is that the government decides it wants to take from you because they think it's "morally right".  I'll remember that when Conservatives control things again.  We can take pot-plantations away from owners without compensation, BECAUSE IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO - SUCKS TO BE A DOPE-DEALER, F-FACE.
Black people ere never compensated for their labor. 

Many black lives were ruined bcuz of what you describe. 


 
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Pastafarian » 02 Feb 2023, 10:50 am » wrote: . Material goods don’t feel or bleed. Bad analogy.
 
Dogs, cattle, goats, chickens...do I really need to continue?  All of these things are property.  The government can't just take any of it away from you without compensating you.  If Democrats decided tomorrow that all Cattle must be freed - you would have to be compensated.

Like it or not, Slaves were property.  That's a fact.  I don't disagree that many suffered as a result, as this is not relevant to the point I was making.  My point is that reparations must first be paid to the decedents of those who had their property taken from them.
 
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Pastafarian » 13 Apr 2022, 12:57 pm » wrote: You’re welcome, white America. 
 

 
 
slideman » 13 Apr 2022, 12:58 pm » wrote: Please these facts are very inconvenient

 

And I am sure that we all can safely assume that you two hypocrites have passed some of your wealth onto the black community as a "I am sorry, and thank you."
Blackvegatble's hypcorisy summed up in one post: [/size]
Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...

From which you are running...



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Xavier_Onassis » 02 Feb 2023, 10:43 am » wrote: That is a LIE, which is why you did not post his name.
And it does not a matter, either, because the problem with slavery is that it was illegal and has always been inhumane.
FJB (dumbduck) is pulling ancient  lies out of defective pro-slavery propaganda.

poor XO the cuban commie
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Skans » 02 Feb 2023, 10:58 am » wrote: Dogs, cattle, goats, chickens...do I really need to continue?  All of these things are property.  The government can't just take any of it away from you without compensating you.  If Democrats decided tomorrow that all Cattle must be freed - you would have to be compensated.

Like it or not, Slaves were property.  That's a fact.  I don't disagree that many suffered as a result, as this is not relevant to the point I was making.  My point is that reparations must first be paid to the decedents of those who had their property taken from them.
That is never going to happen.  Ending  slavery was the penalty the plantation owners had to pay for starting the Civil War.
The states that composed the  Confederacy were not democratic, they were feudal. A few rich fatcats, a lot of illiterate poor Whites and slaves.

Cattle are not human beings, you silly Fascist. The US should have ended slavery upon independence,as most of the Spanish colonies did.
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Xavier_Onassis » 02 Feb 2023, 11:05 am » wrote: That is never going to happen.  Ending  slavery was the penalty the plantation owners had to pay for starting the Civil War.
The states that composed the  Confederacy were not democratic, they were feudal. A few rich fatcats, a lot of illiterate poor Whites and slaves.

Cattle are not human beings, you silly Fascist. The US should have ended slavery upon independence,as most of the Spanish colonies did.

democrats started and lost the civil war
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Xavier_Onassis » 02 Feb 2023, 11:05 am » wrote: That is never going to happen.  Ending  slavery was the penalty the plantation owners had to pay for starting the Civil War.
The states that composed the  Confederacy were not democratic, they were feudal. A few rich fatcats, a lot of illiterate poor Whites and slaves.

Cattle are not human beings, you silly Fascist. The US should have ended slavery upon independence,as most of the Spanish colonies did.
Cattle and Slaves were treated as property by the United States prior to the Amendment ending slavery.  Under the Constitution, the U.S. Government cannot take a person's property without compensation.  In fact, Lincoln had proposed to compensate slave owners at one time, but a deal could not be reached.

1.  These things must be examined in the context of history and the laws that were enacted at the during the time period we are discussing.

2.  Calling me "silly" or a "fascist" is an epic fail for you.

3.  Your comment telling me cattle are not human beings just shows me that you did not understand the context of what I was responding to.  Next time, learn to read, so your comments are at least addressing the discussion we are having.

4.  What you think the US should have done 250 years ago is irrelevant, baseless, and a feeble attempt at arm-chair quarterbacking people, a time and place of which you know absolutely nothing about.  You might as well say Jesus should have kept a diary on chiseled stone - - for your benefit in 2023.
 
 
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Jesus sure as hell should have bothered to write his own damn gospel.
In the context of today, no one is going to pay the descendants of slave owners for their slaves.
You know that this can never,ever happen.
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Skans » 02 Feb 2023, 10:58 am » wrote: Dogs, cattle, goats, chickens...do I really need to continue?  All of these things are property.  The government can't just take any of it away from you without compensating you.  If Democrats decided tomorrow that all Cattle must be freed - you would have to be compensated.

Like it or not, Slaves were property.  That's a fact.  I don't disagree that many suffered as a result, as this is not relevant to the point I was making.  My point is that reparations must first be paid to the decedents of those who had their property taken from them.
Your children are your property as well. How many children were ripped for their mother’s arms back then. 

The government can absolutely take it away, ****. Ever hear of imminent domain?

I know, you defend the immorality of your ancestors because like them you are a sociopath.

Do you defend cannibalism as well? You **** piece of ****.   
 
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Pastafarian » 02 Feb 2023, 8:05 am » wrote: ^^^the daughter **** is mad. 

Hahahahahahaha
Oh, so you want me to pork your daughter now?? Aren't you afraid of too much whitey in your grand-kids??
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Pastafarian » 02 Feb 2023, 12:38 pm » wrote: Your children are your property as well. How many children were ripped for their mother’s arms back then. 

The government can absolutely take it away, ****. Ever hear of imminent domain?

I know, you defend the immorality of your ancestors because like them you are a sociopath.

Do you defend cannibalism as well? You **** piece of ****.
Pssst. Dorkus, you don't seem to understand Eminent Domain. But then again, what did you ever understand about anything other than you are a big stupid black bully with a chip on your shoulder.     

 em·i·nent do·main/

ˈemənənt dōˈmān,dəˈmān  noun: eminent domain
  1. the right of a government or its agent to expropriate private property for public use, with payment of compensation.
 
 
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Pastafarian » 02 Feb 2023, 12:38 pm » wrote: Your children are your property as well. How many children were ripped for their mother’s arms back then. 


 
You mean that back in 1830, THEIR children were MY property, right? 
The government can absolutely take it away, ****. Ever hear of imminent domain?
No.  I have never heard of that.
I know, you defend the immorality of your ancestors because like them you are a sociopath.
My Ancestors?  Black people enslaved and sold blacks as property to whites.  That's how they viewed themselves. 
Do you defend cannibalism as well? You **** piece of ****.
Dude, I'm white. We eat ******, but only figuratively. 
 
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