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Elon Musk owns Twitter!
Elon Musk owns Twitter!
By Warcok
25 Apr 2022 2:13 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
26 Apr 2022 8:25 am
In the immediate circumstance, I have no argument against your position. I'm asking about Musk's role in our society in a larger context, and I am arguing that he is a mightly leaky vessel for the right to be loading with the precious cargo of its aspirations for a more just society. He's a money boy - part of the problem, not part of the solution.Neo » 26 Apr 2022, 6:45 am » wrote: ↑ He's obviously not anti large government but he has a history of being pro speech. Even speech that might hurt a feeling or two. I don't see him as a savior for the first ammendment but perhaps he can reverse the direction Twitter has taken over the past 6 years.
It seems to me that today's conservative is quickly evolving to be a post-Reagan conservative. This notion that one fellow has a "right" to hundreds of billions because he "earned" them seems to be waning in the conservative world view. At least, I hope it is. At some point, people need to grow up and acknowledge that no one person is providing more value than the country of Lichtenstein or the country of Bulgaria - not in the world of ratonal adults.
There are 211 countries on the planet. Only the top 11 produce in the trillions. All of the rest, save Turks and Caicos, produce in the billions (T&C produces in the hundreds of millions). The top 53 produce above 200 billion. That means that Elon Musk's net worth is above the annual production of 158 nation states. Arguably, quite a number more. I am only placing his net worth at 200 billion - and as I understand it, the number is considerably higher. So the question arises: I this incredible (pre-Reagan unthinkable) disparity a product of a just system, or the product of pillage? And if it is the product of pillage, is Elon Musk not then by definition a pillager? And if he is a pillager, how, then, ought we to look at him as a friend of the working man - a person whose interests converge with those of working families?
The Democrats represented working families under FDR - right through to Clinton. Then they found their "third way." And they abandoned their base, becoming friends of wall street. They scooched the Republicans and shared a bench for a bit. And now, the Republicans have been scooched mightily - to the point that democrats are getting a great deal more wall street money than Republicans. And so it behooves the Republican party to make a choice. It is my hope that the Republican party will follow the lead of folks like DeSantis and Perry, and begin responding to the needs and interests of working families - the abandoned base of the Democrat party. And to do that effectively, they need to be internally consistent in their thinking - not serving two masters. I believe that the Elon Musk phenomenon is the very embodiment of the psychological predicment in which the Republican party finds itself. And you can see the schizophrenia of today's Republican writ large in this issue. Musk is "our" Soros - so he's a good guy. Soros is "their" Musk - so he's a bad guy.
Musk and Soros are two of a kind - that is my argument in a nutshell. Neither is a friend of working families.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
26 Apr 2022 8:31 am
Zeets2 » 26 Apr 2022, 8:15 am » wrote: ↑ Well, I never claimed to have the ability to fix stupid!
The alternative is to encourage it among him and his ilk.
Then shine a spotlight on it, exactly as you did!
Like this:
Lay down with fools and wake up with a sore butt.
26 Apr 2022 8:36 am
Payback's a bitch, ***!!!Pastafarian » 26 Apr 2022, 7:57 am » wrote: ↑ https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... rs-model-x
How long before Musk bans Twitter users who don’t like him?
I’m taking bets.
26 Apr 2022 8:54 am
Cannonpointer » 26 Apr 2022, 8:25 am » wrote: ↑In the immediate circumstance, I have no argument against your position. I'm asking about Musk's role in our society in a larger context, and I am arguing that he is a mightly leaky vessel for the right to be loading with the precious cargo of its aspirations for a more just society. He's a money boy - part of the problem, not part of the solution.Neo » 26 Apr 2022, 6:45 am » wrote: ↑ He's obviously not anti large government but he has a history of being pro speech. Even speech that might hurt a feeling or two. I don't see him as a savior for the first ammendment but perhaps he can reverse the direction Twitter has taken over the past 6 years.
It seems to me that today's conservative is quickly evolving to be a post-Reagan conservative. This notion that one fellow has a "right" to hundreds of billions because he "earned" them seems to be waning in the conservative world view. At least, I hope it is. At some point, people need to grow up and acknowledge that no one person is providing more value than the country of Lichtenstein or the country of Bulgaria - not in the world of ratonal adults.
There are 211 countries on the planet. Only the top 11 produce in the trillions. All of the rest, save Turks and Caicos, produce in the billions (they produce in the hundreds of millions). The top 53 produce above 200 billion. That means that Elon Musk's net worth is above the annual production of 158 nation states. Arguably, quite a number more. I am only placing his net worth at 200 billion - and as I understand it, the number is considerably higher. So the question arises: I this incredible (pre-Reagan unthinkable) disparity a product of a just system, or the product of pillage? And if it is the product of pillage, is Elon Musk not then by definition a pillager? And if he is a pillager, how, then, ought we to look at him as a friend of the working man - a person whose interests converge with those of working families?
The Democrats represented working families under FDR - right through to Clinton. Then they found their "third way." And they abandoned their base, becoming friends of wall street. They scooched the Republicans and shared a bench for a bit. And now, the Republicans have been scooched mightily - to the point that democrats are getting a great deal more wall street money than Republicans. And so it behooves the Republican party to make a choice. It is my hope that the Republican party will follow the lead of folks like DeSantis and Perry, and begin responding to the needs and interests of working families - the abandoned base of the Democrat party. And to do that effectively, they need to be internally consistent in their thinking - not serving two masters. I believe that the Elon Musk phenomenon is the very embodiment of the psychological predicment in which the Republican party finds itself. And you can see the schizophrenia of today's Republican writ large in this issue. Musk is "our" Soros - so he's a good guy. Soros is "their" Musk - so he's a bad guy.
Musk and Soros are two of a kind - that is my argument in a nutshell. Neither is a friend of working families.
...
26 Apr 2022 8:55 am
Thank you for that. As I said - a leaky vessel for Republicans to be entrusting with the precious cargo of their aspirations for a more just and free society.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
26 Apr 2022 9:02 am
Pastafarian » 26 Apr 2022, 8:01 am » wrote: ↑ I posted a link about him canceling a Tesla order over a post he found not to his liking.
You **** stupid retard.
LMFAO, THAT IS NOT PROVE YOU ASSHOLE
26 Apr 2022 9:05 am
It's highly suggestive.
Where do you stand on the covid vax? With Musk, or against him?
Where do you stand on a carbon tax? With Musk, or against him?
If he sides with Soros on these CRUCIAL issues, how comfortable should you be in lauding his accomplishments and defending his present and future intentions?
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
26 Apr 2022 9:10 am
Cannonpointer » 26 Apr 2022, 9:05 am » wrote: ↑ It's highly suggestive.
Where do you stand on the covid vax? With Musk, or against him?
Where do you stand on a carbon tax? With Musk, or against him?
If he sides with Soros on these CRUCIAL issues, how comfortable should you be in lauding his accomplishments and defending his present and future intentions?
covid vax, I believe it is up to the individual.
don't know anything about the carbon tax.
have to research his dealings with soros. I don't like soros...
26 Apr 2022 9:24 am
FJB » 26 Apr 2022, 9:10 am » wrote: ↑ covid vax, I believe it is up to the individual.
don't know anything about the carbon tax.
have to research his dealings with soros. I don't like soros...
Are you wth Musk or against him on UBI?
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
26 Apr 2022 9:27 am
Wet that is a tough one but you can't really push an agenda with tweets. Cable news and radio/podcasts are usually more influencial imho.
Nothing is easier than defending the status quo.
26 Apr 2022 9:28 am
UBI if it is what I think it is.... the government should stay out of people's lives. People should work for what they want.
26 Apr 2022 9:34 am
So you disagree with Musk on taxing air, on forcing people to vax and on Universal Basic Income - three of the BELL WEATHER issues of the day.FJB » 26 Apr 2022, 9:28 am » wrote: ↑ UBI if it is what I think it is.... the government should stay out of people's lives. People should work for what they want.
My advice? Don't be too quick to celebrate his hegemony over a platform which has helped to steal an American presidental election. He's not your pal.
He seems to side with Soros a **** of a lot more than he seems to side with you.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
26 Apr 2022 9:34 am
26 Apr 2022 9:35 am
26 Apr 2022 9:36 am
Hey if he can open up twitter to all.... good for him. I really could care less for his political views.Cannonpointer » 26 Apr 2022, 9:34 am » wrote: ↑ So you disagree with Musk on taxing air, on forcing people to vax and on Universal Basic Income - three of the BELL WEATHER issues of the day.
My advice? Don't be too quick to celebrate his hegemony over a platform which has helped to steal an American presidental election. He's not your pal.
26 Apr 2022 9:37 am
26 Apr 2022 9:38 am
FJB » 26 Apr 2022, 9:36 am » wrote: ↑ Hey if he can open up twitter to all.... good for him. I really could care less for his political views.
If is the biggest little word in the English language.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
26 Apr 2022 9:40 am
Carbon credits, UBI and vax.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
26 Apr 2022 9:45 am
I am happy based on the his words to this point. Let’s see what happens. I hope this doesn’t turn out to be Meet the new boss, Same as the old boss. Don’t get fooled again.
BV is in question time out indefinitely, until he takes the pledge to answer questions one for one.
The Pledge viewtopic.php?f=3&t=100927
Popular Vote Totals 2024 viewtopic.php?p=2685476#p2685476
BV's Sporter Losshttps: viewtopic.php?p=2610828#p2610828
BV 33 miles: viewtopic.php?p=2747521#p2747521
Sources viewtopic.php?p=2589152#p2589152
The Pledge viewtopic.php?f=3&t=100927
Popular Vote Totals 2024 viewtopic.php?p=2685476#p2685476
BV's Sporter Losshttps: viewtopic.php?p=2610828#p2610828
BV 33 miles: viewtopic.php?p=2747521#p2747521
Sources viewtopic.php?p=2589152#p2589152
26 Apr 2022 9:51 am
Then we can post that on Twitter.
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