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NEILCAR » 22 May 2022, 12:15 pm » wrote: ↑

22 May 2022, 12:15 pm

China put 40 coal plants online last year ... net result is you didn't do anything about the worlds air pollution.

Dems cut off a pipeline (which has no to very low carbon emissions) in place of importing oil (at a higher cost) on ships which have very high carbon emissions... 
Then the Dems raise the "carbon" tax on oil from $7/ton to $51/ton forcing oil prices even higher. 
Then the Dems would give you a lease to drill for oil but not the permits ... further compounded the issue... 

The Dems have screwed up the energy policy and have made every effort to harm the U.S. Citizen... hell even the lack of baby formula was caused by the biden team ,,,

Their mindsets are stuck on the illogic that US can somehow counter the effects of the worst air pollution that continues to take place in China, India, and all over Africa and So. America.  We're expected to crash our own economy while the countries that are doing the most pollution take our manufacturing jobs that regulators here have been forced to kill our industry because they've made it impossible to make a fair profit here.  The net result is we have fewer jobs and MORE world pollution as we are forced to buy the products we need from those same countries doing the most polluting.

Liberal logic 101. 
 

Zeets2 » 22 May 2022, 10:56 am » wrote: ↑

22 May 2022, 10:56 am

And what difference does THAT make?  We've cut air pollution substantially even though we've increased the number of cars on the road dramatically, so isn't it obvious to even a dope like you that burning fossil fuels IS NOT causing us to go in the wrong direction on reducing it?

BECAUSE U TRUMPER SCUM WANT TO GIVE CREDIT TO A FAT BLOWHARD WHO HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT, U BRAINED LIAR!

& WE STILL NEED TO DO MUCH MORE TO REDUCE THE NIGHTMARE TRAFFIC THAT U WANT!  EVEN ELECTRIC CARS ARE NOT THE ULTIMATE ANSWER!  

NEILCAR » 22 May 2022, 12:15 pm » wrote: ↑

22 May 2022, 12:15 pm

China put 40 coal plants online last year ... net result is you didn't do anything about the worlds air pollution.

Dems cut off a pipeline (which has no to very low carbon emissions) in place of importing oil (at a higher cost) on ships which have very high carbon emissions... 
Then the Dems raise the "carbon" tax on oil from $7/ton to $51/ton forcing oil prices even higher. 
Then the Dems would give you a lease to drill for oil but not the permits ... further compounded the issue... 

The Dems have screwed up the energy policy and have made every effort to harm the U.S. Citizen... hell even the lack of baby formula was caused by the biden team ,,,

The leasing pause is an unintended result of the Feb. 11 decision by U.S. District Judge James Cain, who sided with a group GOP-led states and argued that the Biden administration's attempt to raise the real cost of climate change would hike energy costs and hurt state revenues from energy production.The "social cost of carbon" estimate accounts for effects of events like droughts, wildfires, and storms that have grown more frequent and intense with climate change.In his order, Cain wrote that using such a metric in oil and gas lease reviews would "artificially increase the cost estimates of lease sales," which would directly impact states receiving bids and production royalties through energy production.Max Sarinsky, a senior attorney at the Institute for Policy Integrity at New York University School of Law, called Cain's ruling "legally incoherent," arguing that it's put federal agencies in a Catch-22 as they attempt to assess the cost of climate change in major decisions."There's a fair amount of legal precedent for these agencies to consider climate science," Sarinsky said. "And this injunction prevents them from using these climate estimates."Michael Freeman, a senior attorney at Earthjustice, said Cain's ruling was "deeply flawed and contained numerous legal and factual errors," and that the government's decision to delay new leases was unintended fallout."Louisiana, and the oil and gas industry, have tripped over their own feet in trying to force the federal government to rush full speed ahead with irresponsible oil and gas development," Freeman said.
 "Ultimately, what Louisiana and the industry really want is for the federal government to just ignore climate change," Freeman said. "But the law doesn't let the government do that."Dominic Mancini, deputy administrator of the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs of the Office of Management and Budget, said that several agencies are experiencing delays in plans due to the ruling.Transportation Department officials, for instance, are worried about a delay to a federal grant program for rail and transit projects that could last for months.The order will also delay the Energy Department's court-ordered plan to issue energy conservation standards for manufactured housing, Mancini said, as well as a Bureau of Land Management plan to reduce natural gas waste on federal lands.Environmentalists and legal experts have sharply condemned Cain's ruling on the real cost of climate change and pointed to the irony of the delayed fossil fuel extraction as a result of the order.

Despite a campaign vow to stop drilling, Biden has approved more drilling permits on public lands per month than the Trump administration did during Donald Trump's first three years in office.

supraTruth » 22 May 2022, 12:55 pm » wrote: ↑

22 May 2022, 12:55 pm

BECAUSE U TRUMPER SCUM WANT TO GIVE CREDIT TO A FAT BLOWHARD WHO HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT, U BRAINED LIAR!

& WE STILL NEED TO DO MUCH MORE TO REDUCE THE NIGHTMARE TRAFFIC THAT U WANT!  EVEN ELECTRIC CARS ARE NOT THE ULTIMATE ANSWER!  

It doesn't matter in the slightest who gets credit for reducing pollution. MY COUNTRY did it, and I've got no problem with the current degree of traffic, especially since Biden has forced our gas prices so high that most of the poor and middle class can't afford to buy gas if they need to buy food or medicine.  The roads haven't been this empty in NJ since Obama forced the gas price over $4 a gallon.  Trump fixed that and he'll fix it again in 2 years when your idiot gets crushed in '24.  I'll continue to drive my big, SAFE, gas-guzzling Lincoln as much as I want until then since I can easily afford to do so while I laugh about you idiots wringing your hands over the "global warming" hoax!     

So you admit that even though we can't control any other country's level of intentional pollution that is FAR worse than ours, we STILL have to impose even more restrictions on fossil fuels to try to make up for THEIR pollution, right?  Is that the solution that sounds logical to a staunch lib like you, while you dream about phony "solutions" that you think will fix it?  Besides, isn't Biden's multi trillion-dollar phony "infrastructure" bill the thing that's going to resolve all the traffic issues with better roads, bridges, and airports, and didn't REPUBLICANS agree to sign on to it?  Maybe you should ask a question or two about what the LAST trillion-dollar infrastructure bill that Obama signed and put Biden in charge of spending?  Apparently, you're ready for yet ANOTHER round of hundreds of billions wasted on "green energy solutions" just like last time when Biden paid out BILLIONS to companies like these!:

Obama-backed green energy failures leave taxpayers with $2.2 billion tab, audit finds
Stephen Dinan - Washington Times - Monday, 4/27/15

Taxpayers are on the hook for more than $2.2 billion in expected costs from the federal government’s energy loan guarantee programs, according to a new audit Monday that suggests the controversial projects may not pay for themselves, as officials had promised. Nearly $1 billion in loans have already defaulted under the Energy Department program, which included the infamous Solyndra stimulus project and dozens of other green technology programs the Obama administration  approved, totaling nearly $30 billion in taxpayer backing, the GAO reported in its audit.

 List Of Failed Green Energy Jobs & Companies – By Obama

• • The Amonix Solar: FAIL!
• • Solar Trust of America: FAIL!
• • Bright Source: FAIL!
• • Solyndra: FAIL
• • LSP Energy: FAIL! 
• • Energy Conversion Devices: FAIL!
• • Abound Solar: FAIL! 
• • SunPower: FAIL!
• • Beacon Power: 
• • Ecotality: FAIL! 
• • A123 Solar: FAIL! 
• • UniSolar: FAIL! 
• • Azure Dynamics: FAIL!
• • Evergreen Solar: FAIL! 
• • Ener1: FAIL!

 

You stupid **** liberals just never learn, do you?  Even after you see how many millions those companies kicked back to Obama in bribe money, you STILL want to double down on trusting the idiot you voted for NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES THEY'VE **** YOU OVER!!!

 
 

Zeets2 » 22 May 2022, 1:45 pm » wrote: ↑

22 May 2022, 1:45 pm

It doesn't matter in the slightest who gets credit for reducing pollution. MY COUNTRY did it, and I've got no problem with the current degree of traffic, especially since Biden has forced our gas prices so high that most of the poor and middle class can't afford to buy gas if they need to buy food or medicine.  The roads haven't been this empty in NJ since Obama forced the gas price over $4 a gallon.  Trump fixed that and he'll fix it again in 2 years when your idiot gets crushed in '24.  I'll continue to drive my big, SAFE, gas-guzzling Lincoln as much as I want until then since I can easily afford to do so while I laugh about you idiots wringing your hands over the "global warming" hoax!     

So you admit that even though we can't control any other country's level of intentional pollution that is FAR worse than ours, we STILL have to impose even more restrictions on fossil fuels to try to make up for THEIR pollution, right?  Is that the solution that sounds logical to a staunch lib like you, while you dream about phony "solutions" that you think will fix it?  Besides, isn't Biden's multi trillion-dollar phony "infrastructure" bill the thing that's going to resolve all the traffic issues with better roads, bridges, and airports, and didn't REPUBLICANS agree to sign on to it?  Maybe you should ask a question or two about what the LAST trillion-dollar infrastructure bill that Obama signed and put Biden in charge of spending?  Apparently, you're ready for yet ANOTHER round of hundreds of billions wasted on "green energy solutions" just like last time when Biden paid out BILLIONS to companies like these!:

You stupid **** liberals just never learn, do you?  Even after you see how many millions those companies kicked back to Obama in bribe money, you STILL want to double down on trusting the idiot you voted for NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES THEY'VE **** YOU OVER!!!

**** U ******* LYING TRUMPER SCUM!

In 2008, wind and solar energy were just blips on the U.S. electricity grid: Solar energy produced 0.1 percent of the country’s power; wind less than 1 percent. Renewables were on the rise, but their contribution to the electricity grid remained vanishingly small — almost half came from coal.

Democrats won control of both houses of Congress. They soon sent a stimulus package to Obama that provided over $25 billion to renewable energy generation, $20 billion to energy efficiency programs, $18 billion to transit programs, and $10 billion to modernizing the country’s electricity grid, among other miscellaneous projects.And although the Recovery Act was frequently mocked — Republicans labeled it the “failed stimulus” — its effect on renewable power was undeniable. Today, solar and wind provide 9 percent of the country’s electricity, while coal has fallen to 23 percent.

In the decade following the Recovery Act, wind generation quintupled, and solar generation multiplied by a factor of 48.

Zeets2 » 22 May 2022, 1:45 pm » wrote: ↑

22 May 2022, 1:45 pm

It doesn't matter in the slightest who gets credit for reducing pollution. MY COUNTRY did it, and I've got no problem with the current degree of traffic, especially since Biden has forced our gas prices so high that most of the poor and middle class can't afford to buy gas if they need to buy food or medicine.  The roads haven't been this empty in NJ since Obama forced the gas price over $4 a gallon.  Trump fixed that and he'll fix it again in 2 years when your idiot gets crushed in '24.  I'll continue to drive my big, SAFE, gas-guzzling Lincoln as much as I want until then since I can easily afford to do so while I laugh about you idiots wringing your hands over the "global warming" hoax!     

So you admit that even though we can't control any other country's level of intentional pollution that is FAR worse than ours, we STILL have to impose even more restrictions on fossil fuels to try to make up for THEIR pollution, right?  Is that the solution that sounds logical to a staunch lib like you, while you dream about phony "solutions" that you think will fix it?  Besides, isn't Biden's multi trillion-dollar phony "infrastructure" bill the thing that's going to resolve all the traffic issues with better roads, bridges, and airports, and didn't REPUBLICANS agree to sign on to it?  Maybe you should ask a question or two about what the LAST trillion-dollar infrastructure bill that Obama signed and put Biden in charge of spending?  Apparently, you're ready for yet ANOTHER round of hundreds of billions wasted on "green energy solutions" just like last time when Biden paid out BILLIONS to companies like these!:

You stupid **** liberals just never learn, do you?  Even after you see how many millions those companies kicked back to Obama in bribe money, you STILL want to double down on trusting the idiot you voted for NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES THEY'VE **** YOU OVER!!!

The Recovery Act also funneled money into programs meant to stimulate new clean energy science and technology. $400 million was earmarked to launch the Advanced Research Projects Agency for energy, or ARPA-E, a kind of scientific incubator for new green technologies. (Trump has repeatedly threatened to defund it).“There was political hay to be made with Solyndra,” Aldy said. But he thinks the scandal overshadowed what was actually a success; the point of the program was to take risks on technologies that could have big payoffs (and big risks). The program doled out money to many projects that succeeded, including the 300-megawatt Agua Caliente solar facility in Arizona and the 99-megawatt Granite Reliable wind farm in New Hampshire.

By the end of Obama’s presidency, the Department of Energy’s loan guarantee program had taken in $30 million more in interest payments than it had lost from defaults.
 

Yes, I wish to thank Brandon for closing the oil pipeline, and developing policies that have made the price of oil to sky rocket. Brandon has increased by earnings so much I may go out and buy another 640 acres to run cattle on... thank you dems ...

supraTruth » 16 May 2022, 10:22 am » wrote: ↑

16 May 2022, 10:22 am

TRUMPER SCUM ALL HAVE BDS BECAUSE THEIR FAVORITE OIL POLLUTERS ARE MAKING RECORD PROFITS RIPPING US ALL OFF!

Talk to @Blackvegetable  

He is an oil industry insider who makes his money on the finance side.  He was at another oil finance conference in Plano Tx recently.  This is his second or third one this year alone.

And he votes and supports the Dems.
 
 

Huey » 22 May 2022, 5:38 pm » wrote: ↑

22 May 2022, 5:38 pm

Talk to @Blackvegetable  

He is an oil industry insider who makes his money on the finance side.  He was at another oil finance conference in Plano Tx recently.  This is his second or third one this year alone.

And he votes and supports the Dems.

Somewhere in all that vague bitter yapping is a point.




 

Blackvegetable » 22 May 2022, 6:02 pm » wrote: ↑

22 May 2022, 6:02 pm

Somewhere in all that vague bitter yapping is a point.

Nothing bitter about it.  You chose you path in life and there is no shame in that.  I applaud the fact that you are involved in drilling investments.  

Just don’t be ashamed to own it, Oil Boy,  

Huey » 22 May 2022, 6:05 pm » wrote: ↑

22 May 2022, 6:05 pm

Nothing bitter about it.  You chose you path in life and there is no shame in that.  I applaud the fact that you are involved in drilling investments.  

Just don’t be ashamed to own it, Oil Boy,

It's bitter, and entirely uninformed.

You couldn't describe my path if I wrote it down for you.


You're an idiot.
 

Blackvegetable » 22 May 2022, 6:24 pm » wrote: ↑

22 May 2022, 6:24 pm

It's bitter, and entirely uninformed.

You couldn't describe my path if I wrote it down for you.

You're an idiot.

         

Own it oil boy.  I’ll be in Braintree in Sept.  

Zeets2 » 21 May 2022, 11:23 am » wrote: ↑

21 May 2022, 11:23 am

Atta girl!  Run away from your scumbag lies, just as every other ignorant liberal does here!
For all your effort posting far-left liberal views here (that no one ever bothers to read), why can't you substantiate your own words, ****?
So **** YOU TOO, and the demented liberal donkey you rode in on!

 
 

B.See » 22 May 2022, 9:14 pm » wrote: ↑

22 May 2022, 9:14 pm

The Dems will be defeated in Nov.
Wanna bet ?
How much ?

"I am your Huckleberry".
                                               Doc Holliday(Val Kilmer)
                                               Tombstone.                                                    

NEILCAR » 22 May 2022, 5:35 pm » wrote: ↑

22 May 2022, 5:35 pm

Yes, I wish to thank Brandon for closing the oil pipeline, and developing policies that have made the price of oil to sky rocket. Brandon has increased by earnings so much I may go out and buy another 640 acres to run cattle on... thank you dems ...

ANOTHER RNC PISS ANT WITH BDS!

supraTruth » 22 May 2022, 9:59 pm » wrote: ↑

22 May 2022, 9:59 pm

ANOTHER RNC PISS ANT WITH BDS!

Dems control the House, Senate, and the Presidency ... the must like how things are as they are because they are not changing the tax laws nor making it easier to get oil ... 
 

supraTruth » 22 May 2022, 3:41 pm » wrote: ↑

22 May 2022, 3:41 pm

**** U ******* LYING TRUMPER SCUM!

In 2008, wind and solar energy were just blips on the U.S. electricity grid: Solar energy produced 0.1 percent of the country’s power; wind less than 1 percent. Renewables were on the rise, but their contribution to the electricity grid remained vanishingly small — almost half came from coal.

Democrats won control of both houses of Congress. They soon sent a stimulus package to Obama that provided over $25 billion to renewable energy generation, $20 billion to energy efficiency programs, $18 billion to transit programs, and $10 billion to modernizing the country’s electricity grid, among other miscellaneous projects.And although the Recovery Act was frequently mocked — Republicans labeled it the “failed stimulus” — its effect on renewable power was undeniable. Today, solar and wind provide 9 percent of the country’s electricity, while coal has fallen to 23 percent.

In the decade following the Recovery Act, wind generation quintupled, and solar generation multiplied by a factor of 48.

Exactly as I said!  Tens of billions wasted on the hoax of 'global warming' by your demented that has done NOTHING to make energy more affordable for the poor and middle class.  

And liberal dopes like you LOVE it!
 

supraTruth » 16 May 2022, 8:30 pm » wrote: ↑

16 May 2022, 8:30 pm

As long as your favorite oil companies are making record profits, your squeaky squeals only cost u money.  Hope u have a gas hog like so many of u worthless tRumper scum.

Yes oil companies are making record profits following huge losses during the communist chinese/US bioweapon covid 1984 planneddemic lock downs thatnks to braindead biden and his administration of INCOMRTENT queers, trannys and *** anti-American anti-fossil fuel **** using phony non-existent man made climate change as a pretext.

And it is ****, liberal idiots, like YOU, superLIAR, that have bought into the climate scam of wealth transfer!!!
 

Buffalo » 23 May 2022, 8:56 am » wrote: ↑

23 May 2022, 8:56 am

Yes oil companies are making record profits following huge losses during the communist chinese/US bioweapon covid 1984 planneddemic lock downs thatnks to braindead biden and his administration of INCOMRTENT queers, trannys and *** anti-American anti-fossil fuel **** using phony non-existent man made climate change as a pretext.

And it is ****, liberal idiots, like YOU, superLIAR, that have bought into the climate scam of wealth transfer!!!

"INCOMRTENT queer"   

NEILCAR » 23 May 2022, 6:19 am » wrote: ↑

23 May 2022, 6:19 am

Dems control the House, Senate, and the Presidency ... the must like how things are as they are because they are not changing the tax laws nor making it easier to get oil ...

NOT in control with 2 fake Democrats in the Senate.