Best Way To Combat Leftism....

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By Skans
17 May 2022 9:18 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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17 May 2022 9:18 am
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What's the best way to combat leftism?
1.  Retake our education system, purge it of all liberals and leftists and fill the rolls with real educators, conservatives and strict constructionists?
2.  By force - i.e. violent revolution?
3.  By exclusivity movements - clubs, organizations, societies, churches, etc. which have strict sets of rules prohibiting globalists, liberals and leftists?
4.  By capturing and manipulating technology against the proliferation of leftism?

Other thoughts are welcome.
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17 May 2022 9:21 am
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Skans » 17 May 2022, 9:18 am » wrote: What's the best way to combat leftism?
1.  Retake our education system, purge it of all liberals and leftists and fill the rolls with real educators, conservatives and strict constructionists?
2.  By force - i.e. violent revolution?
3.  By exclusivity movements - clubs, organizations, societies, churches, etc. which have strict sets of rules prohibiting globalists, liberals and leftists?
4.  By capturing and manipulating technology against the proliferation of leftism?

Other thoughts are welcome.
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17 May 2022 10:34 am
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Skans » 17 May 2022, 9:18 am » wrote: What's the best way to combat leftism?
1.  Retake our education system, purge it of all liberals and leftists and fill the rolls with real educators, conservatives and strict constructionists?
2.  By force - i.e. violent revolution?
3.  By exclusivity movements - clubs, organizations, societies, churches, etc. which have strict sets of rules prohibiting globalists, liberals and leftists?
4.  By capturing and manipulating technology against the proliferation of leftism?

Other thoughts are welcome.
I don't think leftism can be combatted, it is clown world... logic and reason simply don't apply anymore, you can't force things to make sense again... you better accept that and have fun with it or it will drive you crazy... the only other option is to leave the planet...

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17 May 2022 12:31 pm
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Education system... probably not the best way. Why? Relatively low pay and lots of unpleasant aspects such as idiot parents, braindead and overpaid admin, and society blaming you for all its ills real or perceived. You can earn just as much being a carpenter and have to deal with absolutely none of this. Some will say.. "We are dedicated.. we will forego money, sanity, and such in the name of our cause". Well.. my question is "Why have you not done it yet?". Been hearing about this liberal indoctrination garbage since the mid-80's and yet nothing has been done. Why are you waiting so long?
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17 May 2022 12:35 pm
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impartialobserver » 17 May 2022, 12:31 pm » wrote: Education system... probably not the best way. Why? Relatively low pay and lots of unpleasant aspects such as idiot parents, braindead and overpaid admin, and society blaming you for all its ills real or perceived.
 
I'd love to see retired business men and women teaching nearly all high-school classes.
You can earn just as much being a carpenter and have to deal with absolutely none of this. Some will say.. "We are dedicated.. we will forego money, sanity, and such in the name of our cause". Well.. my question is "Why have you not done it yet?". Been hearing about this liberal indoctrination garbage since the mid-80's and yet nothing has been done. Why are you waiting so long?
The Liberals have rigged schools to all but shut out retirees from teaching.  It's complete nonsense.
 
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17 May 2022 12:40 pm
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Skans » 17 May 2022, 12:35 pm » wrote: I'd love to see retired business men and women teaching nearly all high-school classes.

The Liberals have rigged schools to all but shut out retirees from teaching.  It's complete nonsense.

Possibly in your neck of the woods but not out here. Retirees actually have the advantage. They have other sources of income and so while they "student teach" and get paid nothing.. they still have income and do not need to supplement it with other jobs or need a spouse/roommates. 

Retired folks could easily get the job if they were willing to meet the requirements set forth. Interesting how it is fine if 24-year-old woman jumps through all of the hoops.. it is not fun if you must know. But 52 year old retired man should just get a free pass.. interesting logic. 
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17 May 2022 12:57 pm
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impartialobserver » 17 May 2022, 12:40 pm » wrote: Possibly in your neck of the woods but not out here. Retirees actually have the advantage. They have other sources of income and so while they "student teach" and get paid nothing.. they still have income and do not need to supplement it with other jobs or need a spouse/roommates. 

Retired folks could easily get the job if they were willing to meet the requirements set forth. Interesting how it is fine if 24-year-old woman jumps through all of the hoops.. it is not fun if you must know. But 52 year old retired man should just get a free pass.. interesting logic.
Yes, a retired 52 year old should get some level of "pass". But, he should have also proven himself proficient in business or whatever other profession he may have been in.

Let's assume a retired medical doctor wants to teach high-school chemistry, physics, or biology courses.  He should be allowed to teach these classes, assuming he received a certificate in 6-12 teaching/education.  The 23 year old has never done anything other than go to school.  So, that's right, she doesn't get a pass.
 
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Skans » 17 May 2022, 12:57 pm » wrote: Yes, a retired 52 year old should get some level of "pass". But, he should have also proven himself proficient in business or whatever other profession he may have been in.

Let's assume a retired medical doctor wants to teach high-school chemistry, physics, or biology courses.  He should be allowed to teach these classes, assuming he received a certificate in 6-12 teaching/education.  The 23 year old has never done anything other than go to school.  So, that's right, she doesn't get a pass.

Hmmm.. so would you say that demanding this certificate is rigging the system against them? My experience is that demanding the degree/certification proves to be the deterrent. So what is your explanation as to why they largely do not enter the profession later in life? The opportunity is there and yet they choose (key word here) not to. 
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17 May 2022 1:10 pm
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impartialobserver » 17 May 2022, 1:04 pm » wrote: Hmmm.. so would you say that demanding this certificate is rigging the system against them? My experience is that demanding the degree/certification proves to be the deterrent. So what is your explanation as to why they largely do not enter the profession later in life? The opportunity is there and yet they choose (key word here) not to.
A certificate is not the same as a degree. It is to ensure that the retiree-teacher has some basic level of what is expected when teaching children. It shouldn't take more than a semester to obtain it. As for the skill-set needed to teach biology, I'm assuming that the person hired for this role would already be very proficient in biology and would not need to learn the subject. Or, someone teaching business, political science, computers, etc. would have specific experience in those disciplines.
 
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Skans » 17 May 2022, 1:10 pm » wrote: A certificate is not the same as a degree. It is to ensure that the retiree-teacher has some basic level of what is expected when teaching children. It shouldn't take more than a semester to obtain it. As for the skill-set needed to teach biology, I'm assuming that the person hired for this role would already be very proficient in biology and would not need to learn the subject. Or, someone teaching business, political science, computers, etc. would have specific experience in those disciplines.

I know you mention high school. However, do you have a problem with random plumber who barely graduated high school teaching kindergarten? 
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17 May 2022 1:14 pm
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Skans » 17 May 2022, 12:35 pm » wrote: I'd love to see retired business men and women teaching nearly all high-school classes.

The Liberals have rigged schools to all but shut out retirees from teaching.  It's complete nonsense.
No, U are nonsense!  Get off your *** & get your college transcripts & apply, & then pass the background check & go to work as a substitute, so that U can see what teachers are dealing with.  Or STFU about what HATEFUL **** U believe.
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17 May 2022 1:24 pm
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My recommendation would be to mandate that at some point in time during high school or shortly thereafter.. every student work/live in a rural setting. A ranch, a farm, restaurant, or something doing with agriculture. The idea that being exposed to this would give them a far more down to earth and practical view of the world instead of just watching youtube videos and random stuff on facebook. Additionally, possibly they would figure out that folks that live in Challis, ID are not inferior to those that live in San Francisco, CA.
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Skans » 17 May 2022, 9:18 am » wrote: What's the best way to combat leftism?

 
Move to Russia where they just murder leftists.

Of course they murder everybody who crosses Putin or the oligarchs, so being a rightist may not help you.
 
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17 May 2022 1:29 pm
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IkeBana » 17 May 2022, 1:24 pm » wrote: Move to Russia where they just murder leftists.

Of course they murder everybody who crosses Putin or the oligarchs, so being a rightist may not help you.

It's Leftists like you who support the USA becoming more totalitarian like Russia.
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impartialobserver » 17 May 2022, 12:40 pm » wrote: Possibly in your neck of the woods but not out here. Retirees actually have the advantage. They have other sources of income and so while they "student teach" and get paid nothing.. they still have income and do not need to supplement it with other jobs or need a spouse/roommates. 

Retired folks could easily get the job if they were willing to meet the requirements set forth. Interesting how it is fine if 24-year-old woman jumps through all of the hoops.. it is not fun if you must know. But 52 year old retired man should just get a free pass.. interesting logic.

Agreed. Things are different out in Nevada with respect to education. It isn't really about liberal indoctrination here. There are so many problems with our school system, I couldn't even conjecture of where to start. I am sure in other states, there is a serious indoctrination problem. In fact, I know there is. However, Nevada is dealing with other issues. The teachers will never get paid enough for the **** they deal with. They get treated like crap by...well, everyone. The admin, the parents, the students...the social media warriors. You couldn't pay me enough to endure that crap. 
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17 May 2022 2:03 pm
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supraTruth » 17 May 2022, 1:14 pm » wrote: No, U are nonsense!  Get off your *** & get your college transcripts & apply, & then pass the background check & go to work as a substitute, so that U can see what teachers are dealing with.  Or STFU about what HATEFUL **** U believe.
Look at this Liberal F-Tard!  He wants MORE not less bureaucratic hurdles for highly qualified retirees to teach children subjects like biology, chemistry, physics, etc.
 
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2. By force - i.e. violent revolution


Leftist progs need to be gun down like those chimps In buffalo. Shoot'em where you find'em 🇺🇸👌
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Skans » 17 May 2022, 2:03 pm » wrote: Look at this Liberal F-Tard!  He wants MORE not less bureaucratic hurdles for highly qualified retirees to teach children subjects like biology, chemistry, physics, etc.
IT'S THE LAW, U ******* RNC PISS ANT!
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Vegas » 17 May 2022, 2:02 pm » wrote: Agreed. Things are different out in Nevada with respect to education. It isn't really about liberal indoctrination here. There are so many problems with our school system, I couldn't even conjecture of where to start. I am sure in other states, there is a serious indoctrination problem. In fact, I know there is. However, Nevada is dealing with other issues. The teachers will never get paid enough for the **** they deal with. They get treated like crap by...well, everyone. The admin, the parents, the students...the social media warriors. You couldn't pay me enough to endure that crap.

I have to make it short but I would start with taking the data out of the equation. In Nevada, it is highly data driven. ie, test scores. Teaching to the test does not work. There is no way to spin it, dice it, or dissect it. Teaching someone to memorize a set of concepts/ideas/facts in hopes of attaining a pre-determined result does not help someone truly understand. I could get you to memorize the teams that have won the Stanley Cup  (hockey) but that does not mean that you would truly understand what it takes to win the Cup.
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impartialobserver » 17 May 2022, 12:31 pm » wrote: Education system... probably not the best way. Why? Relatively low pay and lots of unpleasant aspects such as idiot parents, braindead and overpaid admin, and society blaming you for all its ills real or perceived. You can earn just as much being a carpenter and have to deal with absolutely none of this. Some will say.. "We are dedicated.. we will forego money, sanity, and such in the name of our cause". Well.. my question is "Why have you not done it yet?". Been hearing about this liberal indoctrination garbage since the mid-80's and yet nothing has been done. Why are you waiting so long?
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