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Skans » 18 May 2022, 2:08 pm » wrote: ↑

18 May 2022, 2:08 pm

Because, I evaluate each issue and/or position I take on something thoroughly and independently.  I am not going to automatically take the opposite side on something just because my usual opposition takes a position on it as well.

So, like the rinos at fixed noise, when you find yourself in the same cheering section as nancy pelosi and hillary clinton, it's because you have principles.

Got it.

And I guess Pelosi and Clinton must have some principles, too - some of the same principles that you have.

Funny thing, though. The only time your "principles" have you siding with dems is when Sean Hannity's "principles" have HIM siding with dems. It's almost like you're on his dick.

Skans » 18 May 2022, 2:08 pm » wrote: ↑

18 May 2022, 2:08 pm

You, on the other hand, stake out a position against a group you claim to dislike, and then simply take the opposite position on everything they support or challenge.

That is quite the little story that you are telling yourself. I was a staunch liberal - STILL identify as an FDR democrat. It was not my choice to be on the outs with other liberals. They fell for the climate hoax - I didn't. They fell for the gender hoax - I didn't. They fell for political race baiting - I didn't. I was pro gay rights, right up until gay rights won and the supreme court struck down sodomy laws and forced states to recognize gay marriage. Having won, I switched sides - kinda like West Virginia. I saw the folly of my erstwhile liberal position, when the last gay stepped into the light and the first trannies and pedos started demanding the microphone. 

I gave up having a political home because the working people's party became a wall sreet, pro-war party. I was never a republican and still am not.

What you do is puke whatever fox news is puking - because you're a weak, partisan shill. Currently, you beat the war drum with Maddow and her ilk - because you are an easily manipulated midwit shill.

 
 

impartialobserver » 18 May 2022, 2:11 pm » wrote: ↑

18 May 2022, 2:11 pm

We have some new folks to the office that have recently earned the masters in economics prior to coming here. Sadly but predictably, their explanations of economic ideas is straight from the textbook. When asked to give real life examples.. the silence is deafening. This is particularly interesting because they are paid to produce and write economic analysis.

Probably smart test takers who weren't ready for the "real world" after 4 years so they deferred their entry into the workplace for another 1.5 years and waited until a cush government job came along.  You know, where they can continue to hide out from risk, danger, angry customers, quotas, and constantly being judged based on what they added to "the bottom line".

Why do people hire these types?  I mean, if you need them to work on designing models and crunching numbers based on very regimented direction, then I get it.  You're hiring technical bots.  But, if you really need them to think and lead - you're recruiting from the loser's bin.

Skans » 18 May 2022, 2:21 pm » wrote: ↑

18 May 2022, 2:21 pm

Probably smart test takers who weren't ready for the "real world" after 4 years so they deferred their entry into the workplace for another 1.5 years and waited until a cush government job came along.  You know, where they can continue to hide out from risk, danger, angry customers, quotas, and constantly being judged based on what they added to "the bottom line".

Why do people hire these types?  I mean, if you need them to work on designing models and crunching numbers based on very regimented direction, then I get it.  You're hiring technical bots.  But, if you really need them to think and lead - you're recruiting from the loser's bin.

There is some truth to this. The government job is quite cush. No angry customers, no hard and fixed deadlines, and no overtime. Due to the relatively low pay (starting at 46K versus 82K in the private sector), we do not get the cream of the crop. I have started to seriously look elsewhere. I have automated myself out of job. 

I guess that my amazement comes from the fact that they can talk about themselves and their opinions all day. Ask them about Mark Cuban (owner of the NBA's Dallas Mavericks) or some lame reality show on Netflix and they could ramble on for days. Now, ask them to give real life examples of price elasticity of demand (which is pretty basic) and they offer nothing. 

impartialobserver » 18 May 2022, 2:11 pm » wrote: ↑

18 May 2022, 2:11 pm

When asked to give real life examples.. the silence is deafening. This is particularly interesting because they are paid to produce and write economic analysis. 

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Let us here yours. What is economic analysis compared to working economics? Monday morning quarterbacking would of, should have, could be arriving tomorrow.

Its a bitch working between conflicting interpretations with people taking sides ignoring the scope of life as a whole being limited to occupying space as reproductively living here now.

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha The ancestrally misled thinking they out flanked the fool.

always tell when an intellectual mind knows they were debunked by someone navigating real time evolving

Cannonpointer » 18 May 2022, 2:15 pm » wrote: ↑

18 May 2022, 2:15 pm

So, like the rinos

Yes, I was right - this is a group you don't like. You can't evaluate a position, so you feel the need to lump me in with a group you don't like.

.... in the same cheering section as nancy pelosi and hillary clinton, it's because you have principles.

Again, you lump me in with people you don't like.  That's all you have to your position.

And I guess Pelosi and Clinton must have some principles, too - some of the same principles that you have.

And, again, you lump me in with people you don't like - that's what you've got.

Funny thing, though. The only time your "principles" have you siding with dems is when Sean Hannity's "principles" have HIM siding with dems. It's almost like you're on his dick.

Now, you hate Hannity and associate me with him, claiming I suck his dick.  Got it. 

 I was a staunch liberal - STILL identify as an FDR democrat.

Figures.  I hate FDR - don't like a damn thing he did or stood for.  But, again, I don't really care, because FDR has no bearing on my position with regard to Ukraine.

I was pro gay rights, right up until gay rights won and the supreme court struck down sodomy laws and forced states to recognize gay marriage.

I am against Homosexual marriage.  Marriage is traditionally between one man and one woman.  This is the foundation upon which this country was founded and built. Homosexuals  should have and have always had the same rights as everyone else - no one is saying they can't choose a woman to marry. 

 I was never a republican and still am not.

Your problem, not mine.  I have always been a registered Republican and I'm pretty proud of that fact.  I'm also a life member of the NRA, and I am still proud to be a member of that organization as well.

What you do is puke whatever fox news is puking - because you're a weak, partisan shill.

What you do is make stupid assumptions and erroneous associations.  And in doing so, I can smell your weakness.
 

Skans » 18 May 2022, 2:46 pm » wrote: ↑

18 May 2022, 2:46 pm

Yes, I was right - this is a group you don't like. You can't evaluate a position, so you feel the need to lump me in with a group you don't like.

Again, you lump me in with people you don't like.  That's all you have to your position.

And, again, you lump me in with people you don't like - that's what you've got.

Now, you hate Hannity and associate me with him, claiming I suck his dick.  Got it. 

Figures.  I hate FDR - don't like a damn thing he did or stood for.  But, again, I don't really care, because FDR has no bearing on my position with regard to Ukraine.

I am against Homosexual marriage.  They should have and have always had the same rights as everyone else - no one is saying they can't choose a woman to marry. 

Your problem, not mine.  I have always been a registered Republican and I'm pretty proud of that fact.  I'm also a life member of the NRA, and I am still proud to be a member of that organization as well.

What you do is make stupid assumptions and erroneous associations.  And in doing so, I can smell your weakness.

You done?

Good.

Now, go over there and stand with clinton and maddow and pelosi where you belong, fruitcake. You know - the people that I don't like that you keep lumping yourself in with, ya **** idiot.   
 

Skans » 18 May 2022, 2:46 pm » wrote: ↑

18 May 2022, 2:46 pm

Yes, I was right - this is a group you don't like. You can't evaluate a position, so you feel the need to lump me in with a group you don't like.


Again, you lump me in with people you don't like.  That's all you have to your position.


And, again, you lump me in with people you don't like - that's what you've got.


Now, you hate Hannity and associate me with him, claiming I suck his dick.  Got it. 


Figures.  I hate FDR - don't like a damn thing he did or stood for.  But, again, I don't really care, because FDR has no bearing on my position with regard to Ukraine.


I am against Homosexual marriage.  Marriage is traditionally between one man and one woman.  This is the foundation upon which this country was founded and built. Homosexuals  should have and have always had the same rights as everyone else - no one is saying they can't choose a woman to marry. 


Your problem, not mine.  I have always been a registered Republican and I'm pretty proud of that fact.  I'm also a life member of the NRA, and I am still proud to be a member of that organization as well.


What you do is make stupid assumptions and erroneous associations.  And in doing so, I can smell your weakness.
 

Two kinds of genetic displacements on the intellectual spectrum of real time and relative timing. Those that navigate like there is no tomorrow and those directing everyone else to believe life is larger than biology delivers here now.

impartialobserver » 18 May 2022, 2:26 pm » wrote: ↑

18 May 2022, 2:26 pm

I have started to seriously look elsewhere. I have automated myself out of job. 
 

Good!  But, I doubt you have automated yourself out of a government job. You could ride that 10-cent mechanical pony until you polished the fiberglass saddle silky smooth with your own ***.

guess that my amazement comes from the fact that they can talk about themselves and their opinions all day. Ask them about Mark Cuban (owner of the NBA's Dallas Mavericks) or some lame reality show on Netflix and they could ramble on for days. Now, ask them to give real life examples of price elasticity of demand (which is pretty basic) and they offer nothing. 

Now, that's just pitiful for an economics graduate not to be able to discuss the price elasticity of demand....can someone say "Starbucks"?
 

Skans » 18 May 2022, 2:56 pm » wrote: ↑

18 May 2022, 2:56 pm

Good!  But, I doubt you have automated yourself out of a government job. You could ride that 10-cent mechanical pony until you polished the fiberglass saddle silky smooth with your own ***.

Now, that's just pitiful for an economics graduate not to be able to discuss the price elasticity of demand....can someone say "Starbucks"?

In the beginning, the task was quite daunting. How to create a database from hundreds of excel docs spread out over people's computers. Nothing was shared or common. After creating the database, uploading 1000's of excel docs and then writing script that automates the extraction of said data and then writing reports.. not much to do outside of 5 days out of the month. I have too much energy to just sit here and twiddle my thumbs. 

impartialobserver » 18 May 2022, 3:02 pm » wrote: ↑

18 May 2022, 3:02 pm

In the beginning, the task was quite daunting. How to create a database from hundreds of excel docs spread out over people's computers. Nothing was shared or common. After creating the database, uploading 1000's of excel docs and then writing script that automates the extraction of said data and then writing reports.. not much to do outside of 5 days out of the month. I have too much energy to just sit here and twiddle my thumbs.

So, you've got all the time you need to really find something you can dig into.  I truly hope you find it - you've got too much talent to allow it to go to waste.
 

Skans » 18 May 2022, 1:42 pm » wrote: ↑

18 May 2022, 1:42 pm

Oh, now you are accusing me of wanting to chop the heads off of homosexuals and tomahawk anyone with 1/8th Injun blood in them.  How lame.

 

...i have no idea what a gd republicrat-level dummy like you wants taught in government schools...only that you/your  politicians facilitate/promote stinking rotten government control over 'schooling'....

...[it's a shame that these republicans/crats are too deeply brain-laundered to ever 'get at the root$']   

peepee » 18 May 2022, 5:12 pm » wrote: ↑

18 May 2022, 5:12 pm

:rolleyes:  

...i have no idea what a gd republicrat-level dummy like you wants taught in government schools...only that you/your  politicians facilitate/promote stinking rotten government control over 'schooling'....

...[it's a shame that these republicans/crats are too deeply brain-laundered to ever 'get at the root$']  ;)  

to have ideas how other people think you would need something in common, like mutually evolving in plain sight awareness with biology being the source of ever changing forms shaped since inception of this species specifically combined DNA results present to this ever changing population adapting to space limited to coexisting now as each cycle lasts conceived to decomposed that varies per lifetime present.

....hopefully someday these republicrats will someday get it through their thick skulls that, as one brilliant wag put it, 'Most of what these government apparatchiks do would remain undone/be unneeded/be done much better and less costly in an honest society based on free enterprise.' 
 
 

omh » 18 May 2022, 5:14 pm » wrote: ↑

18 May 2022, 5:14 pm

to have ideas how other people think you would need... 

...to 1.) share a common language style and 2.) listen to them 3.) while honestly seeking to understand them.... strike 3 for you, dick-head nixontard!......    

peepee » 18 May 2022, 5:22 pm » wrote: ↑

18 May 2022, 5:22 pm

...to 1.) share a common language style and 2.) listen to them 3.) while honestly seeking to understand them.... strike 3 for you, dick-head nixontard!......  ;)   

YOU STILL PLAYING LIFE AS A GAME OF CHANCE. NOT SPECIFIC EVOLVING. oops caplock was on.

Skans » 17 May 2022, 9:18 am » wrote: ↑

17 May 2022, 9:18 am

What's the best way to combat leftism?
1.  Retake our education system, purge it of all liberals and leftists and fill the rolls with real educators, conservatives and strict constructionists?
2.  By force - i.e. violent revolution?
3.  By exclusivity movements - clubs, organizations, societies, churches, etc. which have strict sets of rules prohibiting globalists, liberals and leftists?
4.  By capturing and manipulating technology against the proliferation of leftism?

Other thoughts are welcome.

Firstly I think you need to properly diagnose who has power. It is not leftism, it is a highly organized clique of very wealthy jews. 

The most reliable form of combat would be a highly organized clique of non jews...with their own resources (like elon musk)...intent of seizing power themselves. It would need to be secret because all of the financial media and education institutions have been captured and are controlled. So the masses will need to be politicized and activated to encourage political instability. 

It certainly looks as though this effort is already underway. Leftist rioting is actually bad for the current elite...despite the fact the current elite is exactly who brainwashed the left. Massive uncontrolled illegal immigration is also bad for the current elite...despite the fact they allow and indeed provoke it it is difficult to understand what exactly is going on behind the scenes...but it may simply be incompetence. Jews do not have much experience as rulers..historically they were only a managerial class...so they might simply be bad at it. I don't really know. 

FOS » 18 May 2022, 5:55 pm » wrote: ↑

18 May 2022, 5:55 pm

Firstly I think you need to properly diagnose who has power. It is not leftism, it is a highly organized clique of very wealthy jews. 

The most reliable form of combat would be a highly organized clique of non jews...with their own resources (like elon musk)...intent of seizing power themselves. It would need to be secret because all of the financial media and education institutions have been captured and are controlled. So the masses will need to be politicized and activated to encourage political instability. 

It certainly looks as though this effort is already underway. Leftist rioting is actually bad for the current elite...despite the fact the current elite is exactly who brainwashed the left. Massive uncontrolled illegal immigration is also bad for the current elite...despite the fact they allow and indeed provoke it it is difficult to understand what exactly is going on behind the scenes...but it may simply be incompetence. Jews do not have much experience as rulers..historically they were only a managerial class...so they might simply be bad at it. I don't really know. 

God of Abraham in the Torah is same Allah in Quran. Cain and Abel went their separate ways idealistically. denouncing each other when departed mom and dad's home. Christianity is a cousin of the two. Mythologies are the bastard child ideas not following the big 3 western hemisphere beliefs which comes back to Eastern hemisphere am side of the planet just happens to be the leading half revolving around the star 5 billion times everything is never the same details twice.

Damn evolving and thermodynamics, simple compounding results.

JinnMartini » 18 May 2022, 11:33 am » wrote: ↑

18 May 2022, 11:33 am

When I was in school, in my early teens, there was something called  "authority"  that a teacher emanated.

Same here. However, that authority has gradually gone unrecognized over the years.

Vegas » 18 May 2022, 6:47 pm » wrote: ↑

18 May 2022, 6:47 pm

Same here. However, that authority has gradually gone unrecognized over the years.

Or teachers have ceased to deserve it, because they have become drones and appartchiks.


In my experience, you merit respect, you get it. If you're NOT getting it, the man in the mirror is likely at cause.

Skans » 18 May 2022, 2:21 pm » wrote: ↑

18 May 2022, 2:21 pm

Probably smart test takers who weren't ready for the "real world" after 4 years so they deferred their entry into the workplace for another 1.5 years and waited until a cush government job came along.  You know, where they can continue to hide out from risk, danger, angry customers, quotas, and constantly being judged based on what they added to "the bottom line".

Why do people hire these types?  I mean, if you need them to work on designing models and crunching numbers based on very regimented direction, then I get it.  You're hiring technical bots.  But, if you really need them to think and lead - you're recruiting from the loser's bin.

FAILED TECHIES end up as 'faceless bureaucrats' trying to order you around! And cutting your legs off.
And the years they spent in the corporate world left them bereft of such niceties as compassion and humanity and reason.The three years I worked for the Cal Board of Equalization taught me that, as they punished honest business owners and forced them into bankruptcy!