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Tulum » 07 Jul 2022, 6:10 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Jul 2022, 6:10 pm

Even myself as as staunch Liberal can see through all of the misinformation. I stand firm Hoax.

Tony just out and out lied about immunity from the experimental injection, and he didn't say anything about the PCR-test cycle threshold being set too high when he knew it was.  It is unfortunate that, though the fraud is there for everyone to see, people would rather not acknowledge it than to admit they were lied to.
 

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B.See » 08 Jul 2022, 9:14 am » wrote: ↑

08 Jul 2022, 9:14 am

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Why are you pretending that no one has lied to you when I just pointed out that tony lied about immunity?  

What do you really think about labs around the world using a cycle-threshold of 40 when tony has stated that anything over 35 will give meaningless results?  More importantly, why do you continue listening to him after he mysteriously kept his mouth shut as labs used a cycle-threshold of 40?
 

Bard » 08 Jul 2022, 9:21 am » wrote: ↑

08 Jul 2022, 9:21 am

Why are you pretending that no one has lied to you when I just pointed out that tony lied about immunity?  

What do you really think about labs around the world using a cycle-threshold of 40 when tony has stated that anything over 35 will give meaningless results?  More importantly, why do you continue listening to him after he mysteriously kept his mouth shut as labs used a cycle-threshold of 40?

I started to respond to you by suggesting that maybe he didn't lie but gave the best info he could based upon what he then knew. The virus is evolving, the vaccine protections wane, and it's an ever changing landscape. Bottom line, vaccines have saved millions of lives. It isn't perfect, but IMO, better than the nothing we had BEFORE.

Like I said, I STARTED to respond to you but then I noticed you attempted to obscure the information I posted by negatively scoring my previous post, rendering the information damn near illegible. (as you can see, I returned the favor).

Then I started to wonder why you have no designation as to your politics, then looked into your other five posts in which I found what smacked of Holocaust denialism, no less.

Bard » 07 Jul 2022, 4:45 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Jul 2022, 4:45 pm

I don't know about that.  Turns out fauci lied when he said that if you get the experimental injection, you won't get covid.  He was pushing the idea that you receive immunity from them when he knew better.

He also lied by omission when he kept his big mouth closed as labs around the world set the cycle-threshold of the PCR-test at 40.  He knew full well that a cycle-threshold of anything over 35 would spit out meaningless results.  Is he one of the scientifically illiterate loudmouths you're talking about?

Fauci reported honestly as data became available. It is not terribly relevant. He is a US expert.  Health professionals around the world reported COVID numbers fairly and accurately. 

Belligerent anti vaxxers, science deniers and Russian troll farms failed in their effort to undermine the scientific community. 

B.See » 08 Jul 2022, 9:46 am » wrote: ↑

08 Jul 2022, 9:46 am

I started to respond to you by suggesting that maybe he didn't lie but gave the best info he could based upon what he then knew. The virus is evolving, the vaccine protections wane, and it's an ever changing landscape. Bottom line, vaccines have saved millions of lives. It isn't perfect, but IMO, better than the nothing we had BEFORE.

Like I said, I STARTED to respond to you but then I noticed you attempted to obscure the information I posted by negatively scoring my previous post, rendering the information damn near illegible. (as you can see, I returned the favor).

Then I started to wonder why you have no designation as to your politics, then looked into your other five posts in which I found what smacked of Holocaust denialism, no less.

Oh, I never said the holocaust didnt' happen.  I said the zyklon-B story is ****.  Why don't you hop on over to that thread and tell me where I got it wrong.  Don't do it here.

Now, let's start from the beginning of this fiasco and get ourselves engaged properly.

The PCR test that was used to detect coronavirus was set at a 40-cycle threshold of amplification/replication as per the FDA's recommendation. However, even infectious disease "expert" Tony himself is on record stating that an amplification/replication cycle above 35 is going to spit out almost all false positives; others say anything above 30 cycles is meaningless. There was even a New York Times article stating that the PCR test has spit out 90% false positives. It takes almost zero critical thinking skills to draw the obvious conclusion. Ninety percent false positives means no pandemic.

So, why did the FDA recommend a cycle-threshold of 40? That's a rhetorical question; they obviously wanted to create the illusion of a pandemic. Also, why didn't Tony bother to speak up concerning what can only be described as a deliberate and gross misapplication of a test? We'll never know because, thanks to a complicit media, Mr. Fauci is not required to publicly answer even one challenge to his dire predictions which are based on 90% false positive returns from a PCR test that was knowingly set too high.

Unfortunately, unless some talking head comes on tv and tells people it's okay to apply their own critical thinking skills to those factual numbers, they won't do it. They think they need permission to make the obvious inference and then respond to the falsehood they've been fed. And the real kicker is that the only ones they'll accept permission from are the same ones who neglected to inform them of the reason for all the false positives in the first place.

So, given what we now know about the PCR-test, and how it was set too high despite all of the "experts" involved, how should we respond to a 90% false positive rate?

So, tell me where I got it wrong.


 

Olivaw » 08 Jul 2022, 12:02 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Jul 2022, 12:02 pm

Belligerent anti vaxxers, science deniers and Russian troll farms failed in their effort to undermine the scientific community.

So, let me get this straight.  After getting four experimental injections, you still fear the unvaccinated? 
 
 Wow!

Bard » 08 Jul 2022, 4:35 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Jul 2022, 4:35 pm

So, given what we now know about the PCR-test, and how it was set too high despite all of the "experts" involved, how should we respond to a 90% false positive rate?

So, tell me where I got it wrong.

How should you respond? Like I told the tin-foil hatter, vaccine, election denialist in the other covid thread, go ahead and DO YOU.

I'm certain it's all just a coinkydink that two newcomers with not-exactly liberal leanings have decided to make a beeline to the Liberal's Only Room, five months before midterms, to pour cold water on the coronavirus related information PROVIDED herein. Then try to obscure the information by downgrading the post in an effort to render it unreadable.

(And seeing as how that's the case, I guess I can conclude that not so conservative postings are also fair game in the Conservative's Only Room.)

But again, by ALL MEANS, DO YOU. DON'T get vaccinated or boosted, DON'T mask, DON'T take precautions, and rely on Ivermectin should you get a case of this "not-Covid-it's-just-the-flu."

And the REST of us will do what WE can do to minimize the risk. Okay????
 
 

Olivaw » 08 Jul 2022, 12:02 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Jul 2022, 12:02 pm

Fauci reported honestly as data became available. It is not terribly relevant. He is a US expert.  Health professionals around the world reported COVID numbers fairly and accurately. 

Belligerent anti vaxxers, science deniers and Russian troll farms failed in their effort to undermine the scientific community.

EXACTLY.  And they CLEARLY have an ulterior MOTIVE.

B.See » 08 Jul 2022, 8:42 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Jul 2022, 8:42 pm

DON'T mask,

You seem genuinely ignorant of the fact that the people who told you that masks are so important didn't wear theirs.  Newsom was at a party, and they weren't wearing masks.  Newsom's response was to claim that the event was outdoors.  However, it was indoors.  Two lies.  Michigan Governor did the same thing.

And of course let's not forget about that group of politicians who put their masks on for the camera, and then pulled those masks off immediately when they THOUGHT no one was recording them immediately afterward.  If they're not worried about the virus, why should I be?  Don't you just hate liars and hypocrites.  Please tell me you don't really have faith in them.  If so, tell me what your ulterior motive is for believing proven liars and hypocrites?  What motivates you to do such a thing?
 
 
 

PROVE it's BS or GFY, "liberal."

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PROVE it's false or GFY, "liberal."

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Tulum » 14 Jul 2022, 4:00 am » wrote: ↑

14 Jul 2022, 4:00 am

SPAM SPAM SPAM
SAME THING OVER AND OVER

I REPORTED YOU

And I've just reported that you've been engaging in deliberate trolling of my threads in THIS forum, that you claim to be a liberal, posting in the Liberal's Only section, and that you've just FALSELY claimed that the links supplied above take you to porn sites.

Tulum » 14 Jul 2022, 3:57 am » wrote: ↑

14 Jul 2022, 3:57 am

THE LINKS TAKE ME TO PORN SITES

 
 

 

Tulum » 14 Jul 2022, 4:10 am » wrote: ↑

14 Jul 2022, 4:10 am

Those are PORN sites! 
You are not a Liberal.
Even I, a STAUNCH LIBERAL can see that
 

And I've reported you again for making the false claim that they're links to porn sites.

You're a **** LIAR.  The fact that you'd come into this forum to troll threads then FALSELY CLAIM the links are to porn sites PROVES you to be the unscrupulous piece of s----- you ARE.
 

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Tulum » 14 Jul 2022, 5:05 am » wrote: ↑

14 Jul 2022, 5:05 am

BOO HOOO THE TRUTH HURTS!

I guess it's up to OTHERS to decide what the TRUTH IS.  Whether they'll place greater stock in informative articles, some based upon statistics, studies, news items, and ACTUAL FACTS,

as opposed to the blanked dismissals offered up by a LYING POS TROLL who's offered NOTHING to contradict the reports, who's gone so far as to CHANGE HIS NAME in an attempt to get around PG enabled threads, and who keeps posting the FRAUDULENT CLAIM that the links are to "porn sites." 

Suffice it to say, you're one unscrupulous sorry-a---- sob.

HERE is one of the stories I posted above re the VERY SERIOUS ISSUE of the continued threat of sickness, even deaths for AMERICANS, and indeed the rest of the world, as a result of this ongoing ever evolving Covid pandemic. 

Information, including some STUDIES and FINDINGS,  that one or two SICK individuals have maliciously called "LIES" and who have tried to bury behind spam and personal insults, FRAUDULENTLY labeling the links as "porn sites."

A LEGITIMATE STORY, with links and references to corroborating sources. Dismissed as a "lie."

All to WHAT PURPOSE? To keep Americans dangerously unaware, unprepared, and misinformed? To do HARM TO US??

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There’s a reason data show that, while the U.S. positivity rate of COVID tests has spiked to five-month highs, and hospitalizations have steadily climbed to four-month highs, new daily COVID cases have held steady for the past couple of months.

The new cases are being undercounted because results of widely available at-home tests aren’t being reported for government tabulation. The Fourth of July holiday has also caused reporting delays. And many states have stopped providing daily updates, as the New York Times reported.

“There’s no question in my mind that we’re missing a vast majority of infections right now,” White House COVID-19 Response Coordinator Ashish Jha said on NBC’s “Nightly News with Lester Holt” on Thursday. “The truth is, there are probably several hundred thousand, four or five hundred thousand, infections today happening across the country.”

 
 
 

Tulum » 14 Jul 2022, 6:13 am » wrote: ↑

14 Jul 2022, 6:13 am

You are a very very disturbed individual. Covid is a HOAX

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AHHHHHHH... THERE WE HAVE IT. "Covid is a HOAX."  You sick, sorry, s-b.  
 

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