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ScottMon » 07 Jun 2022, 5:19 am » wrote: ↑

07 Jun 2022, 5:19 am

But the law doesn't say anything about confiscating lawfully owned guns.

They were lawfully owned until the stroke of a pen. That made all previous owners criminals if they didn't register those guns. Now people have to pay very large fees for the license to own one. They don't comply...they are criminals, and they can go to prison and WILL have their gun confiscated. 

ScottMon » 07 Jun 2022, 5:19 am » wrote: ↑

07 Jun 2022, 5:19 am

But the law doesn't say anything about confiscating lawfully owned guns.

And that is why all of this is political theater.  If they reinstate the misnamed Assault Riffle Ban there will be just as many of them out there as there was before the reinstatement.  Then in a few  years the GOP reverses it. 

Pepperluciophobia » 05 Jun 2022, 6:03 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Jun 2022, 6:03 pm

how will you defend yourself against the criminals?

With a gun.
 

DeplorablePatriot » 07 Jun 2022, 3:07 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Jun 2022, 3:07 pm

They were lawfully owned until the stroke of a pen. That made all previous owners criminals if they didn't register those guns. Now people have to pay very large fees for the license to own one. They don't comply...they are criminals, and they can go to prison and WILL have their gun confiscated.

Big difference between registering and confiscating.  

ScottMon » 07 Jun 2022, 3:59 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Jun 2022, 3:59 pm

Big difference between registering and confiscating.

Nah, it's just a step away. You know it too. 
 

Neo » 07 Jun 2022, 4:03 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Jun 2022, 4:03 pm

Nah, it's just a step away. You know it too.

Neo is 100% right about this.  See Australia.  See Canada.  See New Zealand.  See Great Britain.  F- you gun banners.  We will fight registration with everything we've got.
 

Neo » 07 Jun 2022, 4:03 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Jun 2022, 4:03 pm

Nah, it's just a step away. You know it too.

I've had to register my car too.  And according to stats ,they are more dangerous than guns.
 

ScottMon » 07 Jun 2022, 4:12 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Jun 2022, 4:12 pm

I've had to register my car too.  And according to stats ,they are more dangerous than guns
 

• There's nothing in the Constitution about the right to own cars not being infringed by government.
• Further, no, you did not have to register your car.
• Yes, cars are more dangerous than guns.  But, you don't need a license to own one.  You don't need a permit to buy one.  No government agency tracks you when you purchase a vehicle.  They do not need to be registered.  And, you can modify your car any freaking way you want to without threat of imprisonment or $250K fine.

Skans » 07 Jun 2022, 4:17 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Jun 2022, 4:17 pm

• There's nothing in the Constitution about the right to own cars not being infringed by government.
• Further, no, you did not have to register your car.
• Yes, cars are more dangerous than guns.  But, you don't need a license to own one.  You don't need a permit to buy one.  No government agency tracks you when you purchase a vehicle.  They do not need to be registered.  And, you can modify your car any freaking way you want to without threat of imprisonment or $250K fine.

My cars are registered.   And there is the part about a Well regulated militia.  
 

ScottMon » 07 Jun 2022, 4:23 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Jun 2022, 4:23 pm

My cars are registered.   
 

• That's only because you want to register them.  You don't have to.  If you own acreage, you can make a racetrack and drive the **** out of your cars to your hearts delight - UNREGISTERED.  Or, you can stick them in a garage UNREGISTERED.  No government agency is forcing you to register your cars.

And there is the part about a Well regulated militia.

Yeah, I got you on that last one, didn't I.  LOL - you lose.

 

ScottMon » 07 Jun 2022, 4:12 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Jun 2022, 4:12 pm

I've had to register my car too.  And according to stats ,they are more dangerous than guns.

Indeed they are. 
 

ScottMon » 07 Jun 2022, 4:12 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Jun 2022, 4:12 pm

I've had to register my car too.  And according to stats ,they are more dangerous than guns.

You could  form an organization to fight the registration of cars.
If you can create a popular / political consensus that cars should not be registered, then that is how you put the wheels in motion to get the law changed.
Best of luck to you with that  and you are also welcome for the free civics lesson.

 

GHETTOBLASTER » 07 Jun 2022, 4:42 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Jun 2022, 4:42 pm

You could  form an organization to fight the registration of cars.
If you can create a popular / political consensus that cars should not be registered, then that is how you put the wheels in motion to get the law changed.
Best of luck to you with that  and you are also welcome for the free civics lesson.

 

Or I could just register my car and not worry about unrealistic situations.
 

ScottMon » 07 Jun 2022, 4:53 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Jun 2022, 4:53 pm

Or I could just register my car and not worry about unrealistic situations.

Then why did you bring it up?

 

GHETTOBLASTER » 07 Jun 2022, 4:54 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Jun 2022, 4:54 pm

Then why did you bring it up?

 

Because you guys are oh so worried the government will take your guns if they're registered.
 

ScottMon » 07 Jun 2022, 4:57 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Jun 2022, 4:57 pm

Because you guys are oh so worried the government will take your guns if they're registered.

Registration of guns is always the first step...to effective / rapid confiscation programs.

Let's say the government decided to confiscate all Jeep Wranglers for some reason. If they weren't registered it would be practically impossible for Uncle Sam to do that.
but....
Since they are ALL registered [99.9%]..this makes it much more easy for Uncle Sam to confiscate them..
See how that works now Little Bunny...?


 
 

ScottMon » 07 Jun 2022, 3:59 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Jun 2022, 3:59 pm

Big difference between registering and confiscating.

Same thing if it's not registered. Should have been grandfathered without registration for people who already owned them back in the 30's. 

GHETTOBLASTER » 07 Jun 2022, 5:02 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Jun 2022, 5:02 pm

Registration of guns is always the first step...to effective / rapid confiscation programs.

Let's say the government decided to confiscate all Jeep Wranglers for some reason. If they weren't registered it would be practically impossible for Uncle Sam to do that.
but....
Since they are ALL registered [99.9%]..this makes it much more easy for Uncle Sam to confiscate them..
See how that works now Little Bunny...?

And we all know exactly who won't register them. How many millions of bussacap in yoo axe guns will never be tracked down? Every one of them. The animals will have them, the zookeepers will not. Bad guy always gets a pass. Good guys lose in this government.
 

GHETTOBLASTER » 07 Jun 2022, 5:02 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Jun 2022, 5:02 pm

Registration of guns is always the first step...to effective / rapid confiscation programs.

Let's say the government decided to confiscate all Jeep Wranglers for some reason. If they weren't registered it would be practically impossible for Uncle Sam to do that.
but....
Since they are ALL registered [99.9%]..this makes it much more easy for Uncle Sam to confiscate them..
See how that works now Little Bunny...?


 

That is very unlikely to happen.  The government has more effective ways of oppression at its disposal.  
 

ScottMon » 07 Jun 2022, 5:11 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Jun 2022, 5:11 pm

That is very unlikely to happen.  The government has more effective ways of oppression at its disposal.

ScottMon » 17 minutes ago » wrote: ↑
17 minutes ago
Because you guys are oh so worried the government will take your guns if they're registered.

Registration of guns is always the first step...to effective / rapid confiscation programs.

Let's say the government decided to confiscate all Jeep Wranglers for some reason. If they weren't registered it would be practically impossible for Uncle Sam to do that.
but....
Since they are ALL registered [99.9%]..this makes it much more easy for Uncle Sam to confiscate them..
See how that works now Little Bunny...?