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Huey » 27 Jun 2022, 8:37 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jun 2022, 8:37 am

I'll bump it for you.

Blackvegetable » 27 Jun 2022, 8:44 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jun 2022, 8:44 am

Huey » 27 Jun 2022, 8:38 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jun 2022, 8:38 am

@Blackvegetable

The SP1 was designed for civilians as a hunting rifle using.

This is complete and utter ****.

Blackvegetable » 27 Jun 2022, 8:46 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jun 2022, 8:46 am

Huey » 27 Jun 2022, 8:37 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jun 2022, 8:37 am

I'll bump it for you.

Didn't answer the question. 

 

Huey » 27 Jun 2022, 8:46 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jun 2022, 8:46 am

I have already posted the supporting evidence.  One of the links I gave you also mentions it.  The SP1 was not designed to kill as many people as possible in a short amount of time. The Armalite Rifle 15 was designed to do that with the automatic function.

Huey » 27 Jun 2022, 8:47 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jun 2022, 8:47 am

I did not realize I was OBLIGATED to do so.  It is relevant to your argument.

Blackvegetable » 27 Jun 2022, 8:55 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jun 2022, 8:55 am

You can't remember my argument.

Blackvegetable » 27 Jun 2022, 8:53 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jun 2022, 8:53 am

More ****.

Huey » 27 Jun 2022, 8:57 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jun 2022, 8:57 am

I took your argument point by point. From what you posted after I left last night.

I guess it is easier for you to ignore it.  That way you can remain blissfully ignorant.

Huey » 27 Jun 2022, 8:58 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jun 2022, 8:58 am

Strike thru so you remain ignorant.

Blackvegetable » 27 Jun 2022, 9:01 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jun 2022, 9:01 am

Huey » 27 Jun 2022, 8:57 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jun 2022, 8:57 am

I took your argument point by point. From what you posted after I left last night.

I guess it is easier for you to ignore it.  That way you can remain blissfully ignorant.

What element of MY argument does it address?

 

Blackvegetable » 27 Jun 2022, 8:53 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jun 2022, 8:53 am

Huey » 27 Jun 2022, 8:46 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jun 2022, 8:46 am

I have already posted the supporting evidence.  One of the links I gave you also mentions it.  The SP1 was not designed to kill as many people as possible in a short amount of time. The Armalite Rifle 15 was designed to do that with the automatic function.

More ****.

 

 

Blackvegetable » 27 Jun 2022, 9:02 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jun 2022, 9:02 am

Huey » 27 Jun 2022, 8:58 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jun 2022, 8:58 am

Strike thru so you remain ignorant.

I don't persist past the lie.

 

Blackvegetable » 27 Jun 2022, 9:01 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jun 2022, 9:01 am

Huey » 27 Jun 2022, 8:57 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jun 2022, 8:57 am

I took your argument point by point. From what you posted after I left last night.

I guess it is easier for you to ignore it.  That way you can remain blissfully ignorant.

What element of MY argument does it address?

 

Huey » 27 Jun 2022, 7:41 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jun 2022, 7:41 am

Blackvegetable » 12 Jun 2022, 3:47 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Jun 2022, 3:47 pm

Huey » 12 Jun 2022, 3:37 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Jun 2022, 3:37 pm

And the coup de grace:

An AR 15 semi auto bolt carrier group does not have that lug. In fact, it’s cut off. This results in a lighter weight BCG and that’s the primary advantage of semi-auto BCGs. At least it was way back before every company out there produced lightweight full auto rated BCGs.

@Blackvegetable  

What have you learned?  You learned that a full auto BCG does not make an AR 15 full auto,

And you learned that the original AR 15 had a different BCG than the Stoner Design.

I told you that years ago but you didn’t listen.  Now you are just embarrassing yourself.

Now let's get back to what I've said.

I've said that the AR 15 rifle was designed for a specific, entirely non-civilian, purpose.

Though some people slap AR15 on anything, it technically refers to any firearm based on the AR 15 DESIGN.

To further the disassociation from civilian use, the platform is designed to use a SPECIFIC round, maximizing its military function. In fact, the round is even so labeled.

There is no discreet DESIGN for semi auto AR 15 style firearms, they use the Stoner design, with certain modifications.

This constitutes a VARIANT, NOT a DESIGN.

You've argued that the M4 is not based on the AR15. This is comically uninformed as the M4 is a variant of the M16.

Period. End of story.

Nod.

I'll go with this one. 

I've said that the AR 15 rifle was designed for a specific, entirely non-civilian, purpose.

The Armalite Rifle 15, which colt named the Colt c601, and later branded by the military, did exactly that.  The SP1 was designed for civilians as a hunting rifle using.

Though some people slap AR15 on anything, it technically refers to any firearm based on the AR 15 DESIGN.

Colt is the sole manufacturer that can "slap" AR 15 on their firearms.  Already posted for you.  The DDM4v7 does not even look like a Colt AR 15, is not named AR 15 and it is not branded on the weapon.  

To further the disassociation from civilian use, the platform is designed to use a SPECIFIC round, maximizing its military function. In fact, the round is even so labeled.

There is nothing special about the round as I have posted.  Many troops don't  like it.  The main reason the round was developed was two fold.  They wanted a round that would go further and faster, BUT was light enough that an infantryman could carry more ammo and replace the heavier 7.62.  The .222 was invented, which later became 5.56 as designated by the military.  The NATO 5.56 in use today was invented by a company in Belgium.  This is a long but interesting read:

https://www.snipercountry.com/5-56x45-n ... hronology/

You've argued that the M4 is not based on the AR15. This is comically uninformed as the M4 is a variant of the M16.

It is not based on the Colt AR 15.  It is based on the M16.  And the weapon in question is the DDM4v7 which is not licensed by Colt, nor does the weapon in question look like an M4.  

This should end your confusion. 

Now, go back and identify which lower goes with with rifle. 
 

 

Huey » 27 Jun 2022, 9:06 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jun 2022, 9:06 am

There ya go

Huey » 27 Jun 2022, 9:03 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jun 2022, 9:03 am

From one the links I posted this morning:

The .223 cartridge was introduced to the civilian market in January 1964, and a few weeks later, in February 1964, the US Air Force adopted the cartridge as the 5.56x45mm for the new M-16 rifles. The .223 was the released to the civilian market as a rifle cartridge for use as a varmint and predator hunting cartridge. This mild recoil cartridge proved popular among other shooting communities. The flat shooting and excellent accuracy of the cartridge were admired by hunters who found it effective on medium size predators, such as coyote, out to 300 yards. Some hunters use it on game as large as deer, but several jurisdictions did not allow the .223 for deer hunting, as the bullet diameter or muzzle energy were not sufficient for a humane kill.

Blackvegetable » 27 Jun 2022, 9:01 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jun 2022, 9:01 am

What element of MY argument does it address?

Blackvegetable » 27 Jun 2022, 9:08 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jun 2022, 9:08 am

Huey » 27 Jun 2022, 9:06 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jun 2022, 9:06 am

There ya go

 

Blackvegetable » 27 Jun 2022, 9:10 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jun 2022, 9:10 am

Huey » 27 Jun 2022, 9:03 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jun 2022, 9:03 am

From one the links I posted this morning:

The .223 cartridge was introduced to the civilian market in January 1964, and a few weeks later, in February 1964, the US Air Force adopted the cartridge as the 5.56x45mm for the new M-16 rifles. The .223 was the released to the civilian market as a rifle cartridge for use as a varmint and predator hunting cartridge. This mild recoil cartridge proved popular among other shooting communities. The flat shooting and excellent accuracy of the cartridge were admired by hunters who found it effective on medium size predators, such as coyote, out to 300 yards. Some hunters use it on game as large as deer, but several jurisdictions did not allow the .223 for deer hunting, as the bullet diameter or muzzle energy were not sufficient for a humane kill.

The point is not to Google at random.

It is to find citations in support of a discreet argument.


 

 

Blackvegetable » 27 Jun 2022, 9:08 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jun 2022, 9:08 am

Huey » 27 Jun 2022, 9:06 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jun 2022, 9:06 am

There ya go