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Nucleomituphobia » 15 Jun 2022, 9:42 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Jun 2022, 9:42 pm

Kill yourself with a hammer

Nucleomituphobia » 15 Jun 2022, 9:48 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Jun 2022, 9:48 pm

swallow a toothpick and die

Blackvegetable » 15 Jun 2022, 9:22 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Jun 2022, 9:22 pm

https://www.newyorker.com/tech/annals-o ... o-powerful

The unromantic reality of increasingly industrialized war wasn’t likely to capture the public imagination, and so, in ads, dime-store novels, and movies, gun companies proposed a self-serving alternative history. Though Southern Plains tribes like the Comanches had been decimated less by firearms than by disease, Winchester described its Model 73 repeating rifle—a specially promoted gun that had been used by Billy the Kid and Buffalo Bill—as “the gun that won the West”; this legend helped the company to sell almost thirty times as many guns in 1914 as it had in 1875. Blending the military and civilian domains, Winchester advertised its weapons as “For Military and Sporting Purposes”; Colt marketed its Single Action Army model as “the Peacemaker,” a weapon “for all who travel among dangerous communities.” The Thompson machine gun, developed as a trench-clearing tool during the First World War, was advertised through images showing cowboys defending their ranches against marauders; ads proclaimed the machine gun “the ideal weapon for the protection of large estates, ranches, plantations, etc.” A deadly but inaccurate weapon of industrialized war was recast as a precision instrument for taming the supposedly savage frontier.

Blackvegetable » 15 Jun 2022, 5:46 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Jun 2022, 5:46 pm

In December of 1959, Colt would begin producing a variant of Armalite’s rifle and designated it the Colt AR-15 Model 601.



 

**** idiot.

Blackvegetable » 15 Jun 2022, 9:39 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Jun 2022, 9:39 pm

Continuing to hate on the Vegetable...

Colt’s firearms division took a gamble on the AR-15, buying the manufacturing rights for the rifle from Stoner in 1959 and embarking on a unique marketing campaign. The firm invited the Air Force Chief of Staff Curtis LeMay to a party at a gentleman’s farm, where he fired the gun into a series of watermelons, creating bright-red explosions with each successful shot. The rifle was also tested on human heads imported from India, which were encased in ballistic gelatin and shot at from various distances. By 1964, the AR-15 had been adapted into the M16—an automatic, magazine-fed, gas-operated assault rifle with smaller rounds, which could be carried in greater numbers and caused less recoil. The rifle was adopted quickly, without the usual process of debugging and refinement, and soldiers found that it often broke down in the field, jamming or failing to fire in combat. Soldiers died with jammed rifles in their hands while the design was revised. Meanwhile, Colt posted twelve million dollars in profits in 1967; Stoner became a wealthy celebrity.

ibid.

The real reason it is available in .223..

The "smaller round"?

The NATO 5.56

My cruelty may be boundless....

Huey » 16 Jun 2022, 6:05 am » wrote: ↑

16 Jun 2022, 6:05 am

You have been told that over.  Nothing new here.

Huey » 16 Jun 2022, 6:02 am » wrote: ↑

16 Jun 2022, 6:02 am

So?

Huey » 16 Jun 2022, 6:03 am » wrote: ↑

16 Jun 2022, 6:03 am

They sure did.

Huey » 14 Jun 2022, 7:56 am » wrote: ↑

14 Jun 2022, 7:56 am

Blackvegetable » 14 Jun 2022, 7:47 am » wrote: ↑

14 Jun 2022, 7:47 am

Huey » 14 Jun 2022, 7:44 am » wrote: ↑

14 Jun 2022, 7:44 am

No, they are not irrelevant. If you keep using strike thru you will remain ignorant.

They have absolutely nothing to do with the reason the AR15 was designed and developed. 

You should read the citation, "armorer".

You have no idea what an assault rifle is, or why.


 

We have already been over this.  You lost.  You refuse to specify which weapon you are discussing.  The Armalite Rifle 15 which became the Colt c601 and designated the M 16 was a weapon designed for the battlefield.  The ATF classifies it a class 3 NFA weapon as a machine gun.  You have the Certification Letter.  

The Colt SP1 AR 15 was specifically designed for civilians use and marketed as a hunting rifle.  You have one of the marketing ads.  It was no more dangerous than any other semi automatic weapon.  

 

Blackvegetable » 14 Jun 2022, 8:19 am » wrote: ↑

14 Jun 2022, 8:19 am

Huey » 14 Jun 2022, 7:56 am » wrote: ↑

14 Jun 2022, 7:56 am

We have already been over this.  You lost.  You refuse to specify which weapon you are discussing.  The Armalite Rifle 15 which became the Colt c601 and designated the M 16 was a weapon designed for the battlefield.  The ATF classifies it a class 3 NFA weapon as a machine gun.  You have the Certification Letter.  

The Colt SP1 AR 15 was specifically designed for civilians use and marketed as a hunting rifle.  You have one of the marketing ads.  It was no more dangerous than any other semi automatic weapon.

Stop with the narrative. 

shut the **** up and read.

https://www.library.ucdavis.edu/exhibit ... -violence/

 

Blackvegetable » 16 Jun 2022, 7:10 am » wrote: ↑

16 Jun 2022, 7:10 am

Huey » 16 Jun 2022, 6:05 am » wrote: ↑

16 Jun 2022, 6:05 am

You have been told that over.  Nothing new here.

Only in the retelling of the retelling. 

You haven't gotten a bit of this right, "armorer".

 

 

Only in the retelling of the retelling. 

Blackvegetable » 16 Jun 2022, 7:13 am » wrote: ↑

16 Jun 2022, 7:13 am

Is a variant a design?

Huey » 16 Jun 2022, 7:14 am » wrote: ↑

16 Jun 2022, 7:14 am

NOte the date and time stamp.  That is NOT the first time I have told you. 

I told you using strike thru was gonna bit you in the ***.

Now bring some new facty thingies and a narrative point.  

That's a lie.  As I have told you.

Huey » 16 Jun 2022, 7:15 am » wrote: ↑

16 Jun 2022, 7:15 am

A mustang V6 is a variant of the Mustang GT.  But it obviously does not function the same.  Plus, you have a very important question to ask before you go get to ask anymore.  Wait for it.

Huey » 14 Jun 2022, 8:37 am » wrote: ↑

14 Jun 2022, 8:37 am

Blackvegetable » 14 Jun 2022, 8:32 am » wrote: ↑

14 Jun 2022, 8:32 am

Huey » 14 Jun 2022, 8:28 am » wrote: ↑

14 Jun 2022, 8:28 am

I did.  It did not discuss the Colt SP1 which was chambered .223.

What was the 1st Assault Rifle?

Don't know.  It is not on the lists I gave you, You struck thru them.  

Take a look at this and tell me the difference:

Look very very carefully. 

Orignal M16 lower:


 
Orginal SP1 Lower:



 

 

Huey » 15 Jun 2022, 12:19 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Jun 2022, 12:19 pm

Huey » 14 Jun 2022, 8:37 am » wrote: ↑

14 Jun 2022, 8:37 am

Blackvegetable » 14 Jun 2022, 8:32 am » wrote: ↑

14 Jun 2022, 8:32 am

What was the 1st Assault Rifle?

Don't know.  It is not on the lists I gave you, You struck thru them.  

Take a look at this and tell me the difference:

Look very very carefully. 

Orignal M16 lower:


 
Original SP1 Lower:

@Blackvegetable    this should help you out.  I'll add one more:



 
 

 

Huey » 16 Jun 2022, 7:18 am » wrote: ↑

16 Jun 2022, 7:18 am

What is the difference between the SP 1 and the M 16 lowers?  To include what is stamped on the magazine well?

Blackvegetable » 16 Jun 2022, 7:16 am » wrote: ↑

16 Jun 2022, 7:16 am

Huey » 16 Jun 2022, 7:15 am » wrote: ↑

16 Jun 2022, 7:15 am

A mustang V6 is a variant of the Mustang GT.  But it obviously does not function the same.  Plus, you have a very important question to ask before you go get to ask anymore.  Wait for it.

ANSWER THE QUESTION 

 

Huey » 16 Jun 2022, 7:20 am » wrote: ↑

16 Jun 2022, 7:20 am

Nope.  You have a question that is very important to your theory that needs to be answered before we move on.  So far all you have done is use strike thru, post selective facts that have already been posted by others, and ask questions.  Your turn.  You can yell all you like.

Blackvegetable » 16 Jun 2022, 7:16 am » wrote: ↑

16 Jun 2022, 7:16 am

Huey » 16 Jun 2022, 7:14 am » wrote: ↑

16 Jun 2022, 7:14 am

NOte the date and time stamp.  That is NOT the first time I have told you. 

I told you using strike thru was gonna bit you in the ***.

Now bring some new facty thingies and a narrative point.  

That's a lie.  As I have told you.

Post your CURRENT case in 3 concise bullet points.