Abolish The Electoral College IT does not allow every vote to count

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By 31st Arrival
13 Jun 2022 9:23 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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Xavier_Onassis » 13 Jun 2022, 9:51 am » wrote: I agree totally. The Electoral College was a bad idea in 1789 and is an even worse one today.
Why was the electoral College developed in the Constitution? To give rural people equal liberty within the laws designed to favor over populated urban sprawl.

and here you are saying it is outdated, you have to be an urban sprawler demanding the few that do remain self reliant can't since your collective mentality, won't.
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15 Jun 2022 6:40 am
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razoo » 13 Jun 2022, 9:15 am » wrote: Abolish the Electoral College…it DOES NOT allow for every vote to count.... ALEC GOP are CLINGING to the Electoral College. They know it’s their ONLY shot at winning the presidency! The GOP has not won a popular vote in decades.

Remember: Republicans have only won the popular vote ONCE in the last 30 years!

As long as the Electoral College stays in place, it’ll continue to hold a stranglehold on our democracy!

We MUST abolish this archaic institution before it’s too late – and this year's upcoming midterm elections are our best chance to elect pro-voting and pro-popular vote candidates nationwide. 

Declare Election Day A Holiday! 

Restore the Voting Rights Act now. 
https://act.credoaction.com/sign/voting_rights_amendment_act/?t=3&akid=11550.1167330.RnT3Z4 

BEGIN ORGANIZING YOUR VOTING DAY PACKETS = Democracy NOW 

Voters must assume well organized ANTI AMERICAN FASCIST CONSERVATIVES aka ALEC may have purged YOU from the voting rolls. Any way possible

Okay let's plan ahead. VOTE VOTE VOTEAnd check often to see if you as as voter have been purged. Voters ORGANIZE A VOTING DAY PACKET which should contain:

--- a birth certificate

--- drivers license or state ID card

--- proof of voter registration etc etc etc. 

--- Keep this information close by for at least 100 years.Let's get on with it. WE voters have a mess to clean up. CONSERVATIVE ALEC will never give up squashing democracy and YOUR right to vote.

Keep the Electoral College.


We're the United States of America...NOT the united states of californistan.
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15 Jun 2022 7:17 am
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This was debated and settled over 200 years ago… move on
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NEILCAR » 15 Jun 2022, 7:17 am » wrote: This was debated and settled over 200 years ago… move on
How was it settled? People agreeing to disagree about physical absolutes evolving in plain sight as ancestrally here. manifested morality, legality, situational ethics where anyone not complying with denying now is eternity will face insubordination, treason, blasphemy regardless which reality they do or don't pick cradle to grave.

A person stands as much a chance being eliminated by their own side as those they oppose should they change their mind. Catch 22 semantics.

Ask yourself two rhetorical questions
1.What institutes human rights? Context directing social behavior cradle to grave
2. what constitutes individual liberty? ancestral displacement here now.
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Skans » 13 Jun 2022, 9:49 am » wrote:
No one wants YOUR vote to count.
Look Skans...perhaps it's time you took the advice, recently given to me, from your fellow asshole insurrectionist... Image  
roadkill » 15 Jun 2022, 6:24 am » wrote: Hey Ike...when we quote someone we usually type something in the big white box.    Image
 
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Ike Bana » 15 Jun 2022, 7:29 am » wrote: Look Skans...perhaps it's time you took the advice, recently given to me, from your fellow asshole insurrectionist... Image  


 
how the faithful never see the end of their own ideology happens decades before the fall of their society.

None so blind as those that won't navigate time occupying space with their own brain.
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15 Jun 2022 7:33 am
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razoo » 13 Jun 2022, 9:15 am » wrote: Abolish the Electoral College…it DOES NOT allow for every vote to count.... ALEC GOP are CLINGING to the Electoral College. They know it’s their ONLY shot at winning the presidency! The GOP has not won a popular vote in decades.

Remember: Republicans have only won the popular vote ONCE in the last 30 years!

As long as the Electoral College stays in place, it’ll continue to hold a stranglehold on our democracy!

We MUST abolish this archaic institution before it’s too late – and this year's upcoming midterm elections are our best chance to elect pro-voting and pro-popular vote candidates nationwide. 

Declare Election Day A Holiday! 

Restore the Voting Rights Act now. 
https://act.credoaction.com/sign/voting_rights_amendment_act/?t=3&akid=11550.1167330.RnT3Z4 

BEGIN ORGANIZING YOUR VOTING DAY PACKETS = Democracy NOW 

Voters must assume well organized ANTI AMERICAN FASCIST CONSERVATIVES aka ALEC may have purged YOU from the voting rolls. Any way possible

Okay let's plan ahead. VOTE VOTE VOTEAnd check often to see if you as as voter have been purged. Voters ORGANIZE A VOTING DAY PACKET which should contain:

--- a birth certificate

--- drivers license or state ID card

--- proof of voter registration etc etc etc. 

--- Keep this information close by for at least 100 years.Let's get on with it. WE voters have a mess to clean up. CONSERVATIVE ALEC will never give up squashing democracy and YOUR right to vote.
Of course the EC should be abolished.  But you left out the most important factual documentation...

The small states are already massively over represented in the processes of this country's government.  Combine the population of Wyoming, Montana, Idaho, and both the Dakotas and they still only have a population comparable to the City of Los Angeles.

Yes...the Republican candidate has received more votes than the Democratic candidate once in the last eight elections...three decades plus two years!  The white supremacist christians want THEIR country back.  WTF are they talking about?  It's not their country anymore.
 
 
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Ike Bana » 15 Jun 2022, 7:33 am » wrote: Of course the EC should be abolished.  But you left out the most important factual documentation...

The small states are already massively over represented in the processes of this country's government.  Combine the population of Wyoming, Montana, Idaho, and both the Dakotas and they still only have a population comparable to the City of Los Angeles.

Yes...the Republican candidate has received more votes than the Democratic candidate once in the last eight elections...three decades plus two years!  The white supremacist christians want THEIR country back.  WTF are they talking about?  It's not their country anymore.
 
 
all you know how to do is stereotype others from your own accepted typecast personality.

How does life evolve in series parallel displacements ancestrally present as you came into being alive now equally proportionately occupying space inhabiting the same moment as the universe itself?
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NEILCAR » 15 Jun 2022, 7:17 am » wrote: This was debated and settled over 200 years ago… move on

A pure democracy would turn politics into a totalitarian government. 


ie:  The J6 committee employed a TV producer and 8 major TV stations in prime time and had two Trump hating repubs. The dems blocked normal procedures by not allowing the repubs to choose their own representatives for the J6 hearings. That's how they do it in 3rd world countries.  
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roadkill » 15 Jun 2022, 7:49 am » wrote: A pure democracy would turn politics into a totalitarian government. 

 
This is just more "tyranny of the majority" ****.

The candidate that a majority of the people in the country want in the Oval Office... should go to the Oval office.
 
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razoo » 13 Jun 2022, 9:15 am » wrote: Abolish the Electoral College…it DOES NOT allow for every vote to count.... ALEC GOP are CLINGING to the Electoral College. They know it’s their ONLY shot at winning the presidency! The GOP has not won a popular vote in decades.

Remember: Republicans have only won the popular vote ONCE in the last 30 years!

As long as the Electoral College stays in place, it’ll continue to hold a stranglehold on our democracy!

We MUST abolish this archaic institution before it’s too late – and this year's upcoming midterm elections are our best chance to elect pro-voting and pro-popular vote candidates nationwide. 

Declare Election Day A Holiday! 

Restore the Voting Rights Act now. 
https://act.credoaction.com/sign/voting_rights_amendment_act/?t=3&akid=11550.1167330.RnT3Z4 

BEGIN ORGANIZING YOUR VOTING DAY PACKETS = Democracy NOW 

Voters must assume well organized ANTI AMERICAN FASCIST CONSERVATIVES aka ALEC may have purged YOU from the voting rolls. Any way possible

Okay let's plan ahead. VOTE VOTE VOTEAnd check often to see if you as as voter have been purged. Voters ORGANIZE A VOTING DAY PACKET which should contain:

--- a birth certificate

--- drivers license or state ID card

--- proof of voter registration etc etc etc. 

--- Keep this information close by for at least 100 years.Let's get on with it. WE voters have a mess to clean up. CONSERVATIVE ALEC will never give up squashing democracy and YOUR right to vote.
The fly-over states are always wrong. New York and California need more power.
Please seat yourself.

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razoo » 13 Jun 2022, 9:15 am » wrote: Abolish the Electoral College…it DOES NOT allow for every vote to count.... ALEC GOP are CLINGING to the Electoral College. They know it’s their ONLY shot at winning the presidency! The GOP has not won a popular vote in decades.

Remember: Republicans have only won the popular vote ONCE in the last 30 years!

As long as the Electoral College stays in place, it’ll continue to hold a stranglehold on our democracy!

We MUST abolish this archaic institution before it’s too late – and this year's upcoming midterm elections are our best chance to elect pro-voting and pro-popular vote candidates nationwide. 

Declare Election Day A Holiday! 

Restore the Voting Rights Act now. 
https://act.credoaction.com/sign/voting_rights_amendment_act/?t=3&akid=11550.1167330.RnT3Z4 

BEGIN ORGANIZING YOUR VOTING DAY PACKETS = Democracy NOW 

Voters must assume well organized ANTI AMERICAN FASCIST CONSERVATIVES aka ALEC may have purged YOU from the voting rolls. Any way possible

Okay let's plan ahead. VOTE VOTE VOTEAnd check often to see if you as as voter have been purged. Voters ORGANIZE A VOTING DAY PACKET which should contain:

--- a birth certificate

--- drivers license or state ID card

--- proof of voter registration etc etc etc. 

--- Keep this information close by for at least 100 years.Let's get on with it. WE voters have a mess to clean up. CONSERVATIVE ALEC will never give up squashing democracy and YOUR right to vote.

Why should anyone give a **** about the opinions of idiots anyway?
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IkeBana » 16 Jun 2022, 10:00 pm » wrote: This is just more "tyranny of the majority" ****.

The candidate that a majority of the people in the country want in the Oval Office... should go to the Oval office.

Nope 

If that were true the dems could have attempted to pass such a thing many times.  It never happened.
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razoo » 16 Jun 2022, 10:47 pm » wrote:  Agreement Among the States to Elect the President by ...
https://www.nationalpopularvote.com › written-explana...

One-page explanation (PDF) The National Popular Vote Interstate Compact will guarantee the Presidency to the candidate who receives the most popular votes ...
EDUCATE yourself, MORON......

Article I, Section 10, Clause 3 of the Constitution reads: “No State shall, without the Consent of Congress . . . enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power.”

100% TOTALLY Unconstitutional and WOULD BE STRUCK DOWN BY THE COURTS!!!
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IkeBana » 16 Jun 2022, 10:00 pm » wrote: This is just more "tyranny of the majority" ****.

The candidate that a majority of the people in the country want in the Oval Office... should go to the Oval office.
oh the irony 
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omh » 15 Jun 2022, 7:24 am » wrote: How was it settled? People agreeing to disagree about physical absolutes evolving in plain sight as ancestrally here. manifested morality, legality, situational ethics where anyone not complying with denying now is eternity will face insubordination, treason, blasphemy regardless which reality they do or don't pick cradle to grave.

A person stands as much a chance being eliminated by their own side as those they oppose should they change their mind. Catch 22 semantics.

Ask yourself two rhetorical questions
1.What institutes human rights? Context directing social behavior cradle to grave
2. what constitutes individual liberty? ancestral displacement here now.

amend the Constitution or live with it ... 
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20 Jun 2022 1:37 pm
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NEILCAR » 20 Jun 2022, 12:20 pm » wrote: amend the Constitution or live with it ... 
Stop reimagining what the founders meant each generation forward.

Does it protect individual liberty to understand life being one of a kind or does it protect human rights to collectively deny living as one of a kind here now mutually evolving in series parallel sequence of occupying space as a whole species in this atmosphere?

It is the only one ever written to establish self evident results being one each in sequence of changing population never same reproduction again in any other generation prior or post existing here now.
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20 Jun 2022 1:41 pm
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omh » 20 Jun 2022, 1:37 pm » wrote: Stop reimagining what the founders meant each generation forward.

Does it protect individual liberty to understand life being one of a kind or does it protect human rights to collectively deny living as one of a kind here now mutually evolving in series parallel sequence of occupying space as a whole species in this atmosphere?

It is the only one ever written to establish self evident results being one each in sequence of changing population never same reproduction again in any other generation prior or post existing here now.

at some point in time, you will accept the fact that if you do not get 75% of the States to agree with your train of thought ... no change will occur  
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NEILCAR » 20 Jun 2022, 1:41 pm » wrote: at some point in time, you will accept the fact that if you do not get 75% of the States to agree with your train of thought ... no change will occur  
what makes you think I limit my idea to just America? Rescuing a species from itself misleading itself for 300 generations won't get done focusing on one reality.

Why do you think I came to cyberspace and used little message boards like this? Nobody intellectually believes me is great, because I operate at the instinctive level of mutually evolving now.

You gave up on that before you reached puberty.
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The small States would never have ratified the Constitution without the Electoral College ... you wouldn't have a vote, or a President to vote for, or a country. Small States will probably never vote for changing it.

A compromised was made...
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