Second Amendment is from 1789. Thus the second amendment only applies to Muskets.

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16 Jun 2022 10:43 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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17 Jun 2022 8:21 am
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Blackvegetable » 17 Jun 2022, 8:19 am » wrote:  You **** Ammosexuals are hopeless.

Go join the service, play with your gunny things.
 
 

 
Ammophobic are far more pathetic. Laws only restrict the law abiding. 
 
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17 Jun 2022 8:23 am
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Neo » 17 Jun 2022, 8:21 am » wrote: Ammophobic are far more pathetic. Laws only restrict the law abiding.
Please promise to be in the First Wave.
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17 Jun 2022 8:24 am
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Blackvegetable » 17 Jun 2022, 8:19 am » wrote:  You **** Ammosexuals are hopeless.

Go join the service, play with your gunny things.
Been there, done that.

point?
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17 Jun 2022 8:30 am
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FOS » 16 Jun 2022, 11:33 am » wrote: explain it to him. lets go, boy. the founding fathers clearly had no idea of how much warfare would change after ww1. EVERYONE was surprised by that. 

are you gonna tell us that if george washington knew of the future of mechanized warfare it would have NO impact on his philosophy?

if he knew about the future of demographics, it would have NO impact on his philosophy?

those are pretty baseless assumptions.

But then again, im making assumptions about your analysis of this situation, and IM guessing your real thoughts are even stupider than my own. 

explain it.
If George Washington could watch WWI in 3-D, I doubt it would have much impact on him at all.  George Washington was born in 1732 and died before the turn of that century.  WWI was a war that was fought on foreign lands that lasted a few years commencing in 1914.  This was over 150 years in the future from when Washington was actively engaged in our new country's affairs.

Now, suppose I tell you that in 2172 Israel will be fighting Jordan and other Arab countries over several border disputes, what are you going to tell me?  As if you are going to give a **** about what happens to Israel and neighboring countries 150 years from now.  That's about how Washington would have felt about the same-old-same-old between the Turks, Russians, Germans, Italians and Romanians 150 years in the future.  He would likely say something like this:  "Be honest and just ourselves and exact it from others, meddling as little as possible in their affairs where our own are not involved. If this maxim was generally adopted, wars would cease and our swords would soon be converted into reap hooks and our harvests be more peaceful, abundant, and happy.
 
 
 
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Blackvegetable » 17 Jun 2022, 8:19 am » wrote:  You **** Ammosexuals are hopeless.

Go join the service, play with your gunny things.
You dread that which is not a threat, but rather a cold reminder of things others posses which you do not.
 
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17 Jun 2022 8:45 am
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Skans » 17 Jun 2022, 8:34 am » wrote: You dread that which is not a threat, but rather a cold reminder of things others posses which you do not.
I did TKD.

My odds of survival are better than yours.
 
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17 Jun 2022 8:46 am
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Huey » 17 Jun 2022, 8:24 am » wrote: Been there, done that.

point?
You carried a wrench.

Now you're Rambo.
 
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Huey » 16 Jun 2022, 11:54 am » wrote: Almost forgot

One of the men to credit for why repeating arms became much less expensive during the 19th century is James Madison, author of the Second Amendment. During Madison’s presidency (1809-17), Secretary of War James Monroe (who would succeed Madison as president), successfully promoted legislation to foster the development of firearms technology. In particular, the federal armories at Springfield, Mass., and Harpers Ferry, Va., were ordered to invent the means of producing firearms with interchangeable parts.

https://fee.org/articles/firearms-techn ... amendment/

The argument that muskets were the only weapons available and that rifles that could fire multiple times were unheard of pure and utter ****. 

Do you think the man credited with being the author of the 2nd Amendment knew what the **** he meant?
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Huey » 17 Jun 2022, 8:19 am » wrote: If you would like to discuss it you can.  This is about weather or not the flounders could envision any other than a musket that had to be reloaded after every shot.

James Madison could.
**** moron.
 
 
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Explain why not machine gun, Sheilagh...
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17 Jun 2022 8:49 am
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Blackvegetable » 17 Jun 2022, 8:46 am » wrote: You carried a wrench.

Now you're Rambo.
lmao!  No sir. Well, I did work Maint for a year until I was a Crew member.  Then  I carried an M 60D, a 38, M16A1 then an M16A2, then a 9 mm.
 

Never carried, or saw, an AR 15.  
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17 Jun 2022 8:51 am
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Blackvegetable » 17 Jun 2022, 8:47 am » wrote: Explain why not machine gun, Sheilagh...
Read the NFA of 1934.  Let them explain it to you.  Links have been posted for you.  

Back to the point.  It is a myth fed to you by your influencers that the founders only envisioned single shot muskets.

 
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17 Jun 2022 8:51 am
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Neo » 17 Jun 2022, 8:19 am » wrote: There is no solution outside of banning all guns from public ownership. The crazed would switch to mowing down crowds with SUVs. When we ban large vehicles the deranged will predictably switch to explosives and poisons. When we ban gasoline and any chemicals that have potential lethality the homicidal will find another way.

We need to stop trying to legislate our way out of this, laws only impact the law abiding. Bubble wrapping society is not only oppressive, its futile.
An Honest answer.  We're **** no matter what.
 
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17 Jun 2022 8:53 am
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Blackvegetable » 17 Jun 2022, 8:23 am » wrote: Please promise to be in the First Wave.
I get to learn about these vast right wing conspiracies from you ****. Qanon was a couple of imaginative idiots with a tiny following until liberal media gave them relevance.  You **** are creating your own opposition. 
 
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razoo » 16 Jun 2022, 10:19 am » wrote: Bullet was invented in 1847. Second Amendment is from 1789. Thus the second amendment only applies to Muskets.

Do you know why a lot of women are now buying guns and getting training in the use of those guns?

Because the 2nd A. allows them to protect themselves against rapists and murderers.

P.S.  Those women are NOT buying Muskets.   
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ScottMon » 17 Jun 2022, 8:51 am » wrote: An Honest answer.  We're **** no matter what.
We are not ****.  In the past I have posted, even to you, common sense measures we can take.  But these measures don’t tackle getting illegally obtained weapons off the streets. In major cities like Chicago those under 21 are shooting people with hand guns.  Under 21 year olds are not allowed by law to own hand guns or even purchase the ammo.

We have to enforce the laws we already have and clamp down on illegal weapons.  Most crimes are committed with them.  “Ar 15s” are used relatively rarely in gun crimes.  
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roadkill » 17 Jun 2022, 8:53 am » wrote: Do you know why a lot of women are now buying guns and getting training in the use of those guns?

Because the 2nd A. allows them to protect themselves against rapists and murderers.

P.S.  Those women are NOT buying Muskets.
There's always an uptick in gun sales after a mass shooting.
 
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17 Jun 2022 8:58 am
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Huey » 17 Jun 2022, 8:57 am » wrote: We are not ****.  In the past I have posted, even to you, common sense measures we can take.  But these measures don’t tackle getting illegally obtained weapons off the streets. In major cities like Chicago those under 21 are shooting people with hand guns.  Under 21 year olds are not allowed by law to own hand guns or even purchase the ammo.

We have to enforce the laws we already have and clamp down on illegal weapons.  Most crimes are committed with them.  “Ar 15s” are used relatively rarely in gun crimes.
The last mass shooting at the school was legally purchased.  We are ****.
 
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ScottMon » 17 Jun 2022, 8:57 am » wrote: There's always an uptick in gun sales after a mass shooting.

And even more gun sales when politicians want more gun laws. That's a fact!
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