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RunningWithScissors » 27 Aug 2022, 7:34 am » wrote: ↑

27 Aug 2022, 7:34 am

Dude, learn a period. 

Accept compounding changes never exceed being timed apart while here now. Your sole displacement didn't exist before conceived and won't be duplicated in form or shape since conception as you adapt in space living in series parallel proximity to everything outside your flesh.

Kinetically self contained to your specific ancestral time being alive now. No other way possible regardless how many people choose to ignore now is eternity.

Here's another puzzle, what is the meaning of this song?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgnClrx8N2k
 

DeezerShoove » 27 Aug 2022, 7:14 am » wrote: ↑

27 Aug 2022, 7:14 am

One last weigh with them separated from each other. Which is not available.

I'm sure this is a sorting problem where logic has pointed out that only certain balls were ever on the heavier side.
In the midst of moving 3 around, keeping track, etc. logic has determined the single ball.
Not a separate weighing.

I'm just lazy. 

Thanks for feeling my balls, but that is an incorrect answer. 

RunningWithScissors » 27 Aug 2022, 7:44 am » wrote: ↑

27 Aug 2022, 7:44 am

Here's another puzzle, what is the meaning of this song?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgnClrx8N2k
 

make Mick Jagger and the rest of the group stars with fans constantly revolving around anything they say or do buying up the copyrighted music corrupting human nature of the population present.

Arts and entertainment industry re-enforcing academia manifesting intellect as a superior entity to instinctive awareness induced by the brain navigating a body as timed apart now.

RunningWithScissors » 27 Aug 2022, 7:54 am » wrote: ↑

27 Aug 2022, 7:54 am

Thanks for feeling my balls, but that is an incorrect answer.

Well, I sort of tried. Not very hard though.
Losing interest is an interest of mine.  

However, taking 3 of the established controls and swapping out 3 from one side seems like a good next step.

RunningWithScissors » 27 Aug 2022, 6:47 am » wrote: ↑

27 Aug 2022, 6:47 am

This will help you think...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I57nIP0vc44

@Jantje_Smit  

I think that did the trick. Gonna use hypothetical colors for clarity, so the mind's eye can track the moves.

We have 4 side a light-side suspects (reds), 4 side b heavy-side suspects (blues) and 4 controls (yellow). In two weighings, we have to find the culprit. 

You pull 3 reds from light side a and replace with 2 blues and 1 yellow control, replacing the 2 blues on heavy side b with 2 yellow controls. If even, you know the odd marble is lighter and is one of the 3 sequestered reds. You weigh two of them against each other. The lighter one is the culprit - if same, the remaining sequestered red is the odd light marble. 

If odd, and side a is still lighter, you know the culprit is EITHER the 1 red OR one of the the two blues from side b. Weigh the two blues against each other. The heavier blue is the culprit. If even, the lighter red is the culprit. 

If odd, and side a is now heavier, it's the heavier of the 2 blues on side a. 

Solved. That was a bear. 

Thank you for standing up for me and giving me the opportunity to be a smart-***!
 
PS - I have a hunch that it did not occur to you to use colors in the explanation you gave to Jantje Smit, since you appear to have been somewhat frustrated by the arduousness of getting the solution across.

I believe that the idea to assign the 3 groups of marbles an arbitrary color actually helped me solve the puzzle, as it gave me a short-hand way of tracking and talking about the marbles to myself (yes, this puzzle had me talking to myself). 
 
 
 

DeezerShoove » 27 Aug 2022, 11:29 am » wrote: ↑

27 Aug 2022, 11:29 am

Well, I sort of tried. Not very hard though.
Losing interest is an interest of mine.  

However, taking 3 of the established controls and swapping out 3 from one side seems like a good next step.

The problem was that you needed to end your second weighing - no matter what - with only three suspects. Doing that left 5. There was no way to leave only three suspects without mixing the trays. Leaving either tray intact left more than 3 suspects. 
 

Cannonpointer » 27 Aug 2022, 12:18 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Aug 2022, 12:18 pm

@Jantje_Smit  

I think that did the trick. Gonna use hypothetical colors for clarity, so the mind's eye can track the moves.

We have 4 side a light-side suspects (reds), 4 side b heavy-side suspects (blues) and 4 controls (yellow). In two weighings, we have to find the culprit. 

You pull 3 reds from light side a and replace with 2 blues and 1 yellow control, replacing the 2 blues on heavy side b with 2 yellow controls. If even, you know the odd marble is lighter and is one of the 3 sequestered reds. You weigh two of them against each other. The lighter one is the culprit - if same, the remaining sequestered red is the odd light marble. 

If odd, and side a is still lighter, you know the culprit is EITHER the 1 red OR one of the the two blues from side b. Weigh the two blues against each other. The heavier blue is the culprit. If even, the lighter red is the culprit. 

If odd, and side a is now heavier, it's the heavier of the 2 blues on side a. 

Solved. That was a bear. 

Thank you for standing up for me and giving me the opportunity to be a smart-***!
 
PS - I have a hunch that it did not occur to you to use colors in the explanation you gave to Jantje Smit, since you appear to have been somewhat frustrated by the arduousness of getting the solution across.

I believe that the idea to assign the 3 groups of marbles an arbitrary color actually helped me solve the puzzle, as it gave me a short-hand way of tracking and talking about the marbles to myself (yes, this puzzle had me talking to myself).

It's 4x4 on the first and 4x4 on the second. You do have to slide 3 marbles on the 2nd turn and use your control marbles. you're so close! 

The rest of your control marbles will solve the puzzle. 
 
 

Cannonpointer » 27 Aug 2022, 12:18 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Aug 2022, 12:18 pm

@Jantje_Smit  

I think that did the trick. Gonna use hypothetical colors for clarity, so the mind's eye can track the moves.

We have 4 side a light-side suspects (reds), 4 side b heavy-side suspects (blues) and 4 controls (yellow). In two weighings, we have to find the culprit. 

You pull 3 reds from light side a and replace with 2 blues and 1 yellow control, replacing the 2 blues on heavy side b with 2 yellow controls. If even, you know the odd marble is lighter and is one of the 3 sequestered reds. You weigh two of them against each other. The lighter one is the culprit - if same, the remaining sequestered red is the odd light marble. 

If odd, and side a is still lighter, you know the culprit is EITHER the 1 red OR one of the the two blues from side b. Weigh the two blues against each other. The heavier blue is the culprit. If even, the lighter red is the culprit. 

If odd, and side a is now heavier, it's the heavier of the 2 blues on side a. 

Solved. That was a bear. 

Thank you for standing up for me and giving me the opportunity to be a smart-***!
 
PS - I have a hunch that it did not occur to you to use colors in the explanation you gave to Jantje Smit, since you appear to have been somewhat frustrated by the arduousness of getting the solution across.

I believe that the idea to assign the 3 groups of marbles an arbitrary color actually helped me solve the puzzle, as it gave me a short-hand way of tracking and talking about the marbles to myself (yes, this puzzle had me talking to myself).

Nice try, but that fails unless you get lucky. 2nd turn is 4x4. And yo u have to move 3 mables, not 2. 
 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJ1qgCC4h8Q

So far, I've given the answer to Smitty, and two of you are really close! I'm really impressed! This is really hard! 
 

Cannonpointer » 27 Aug 2022, 12:18 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Aug 2022, 12:18 pm

@Jantje_Smit  

I think that did the trick. Gonna use hypothetical colors for clarity, so the mind's eye can track the moves.

We have 4 side a light-side suspects (reds), 4 side b heavy-side suspects (blues) and 4 controls (yellow). In two weighings, we have to find the culprit. 

You pull 3 reds from light side a and replace with 2 blues and 1 yellow control, replacing the 2 blues on heavy side b with 2 yellow controls. If even, you know the odd marble is lighter and is one of the 3 sequestered reds. You weigh two of them against each other. The lighter one is the culprit - if same, the remaining sequestered red is the odd light marble. 

If odd, and side a is still lighter, you know the culprit is EITHER the 1 red OR one of the the two blues from side b. Weigh the two blues against each other. The heavier blue is the culprit. If even, the lighter red is the culprit. 

If odd, and side a is now heavier, it's the heavier of the 2 blues on side a. 

Solved. That was a bear. 

Thank you for standing up for me and giving me the opportunity to be a smart-***!
 
PS - I have a hunch that it did not occur to you to use colors in the explanation you gave to Jantje Smit, since you appear to have been somewhat frustrated by the arduousness of getting the solution across.

I believe that the idea to assign the 3 groups of marbles an arbitrary color actually helped me solve the puzzle, as it gave me a short-hand way of tracking and talking about the marbles to myself (yes, this puzzle had me talking to myself).

I think you got it. It's hard to tell from your explanation. Bc it is complex. 

RunningWithScissors » 28 Aug 2022, 3:53 am » wrote: ↑

28 Aug 2022, 3:53 am

So far, I've given the answer to Smitty, and two of you are really close! I'm really impressed! This is really hard! 
 

Your intellectual logic isn't perfect. it has rationed away a necessary bit of understanding kinetics to action and reactions compounding an ever changing balancing universe forward from here.

omh » 28 Aug 2022, 5:29 am » wrote: ↑

28 Aug 2022, 5:29 am

Your intellectual logic isn't perfect. it has rationed away a necessary bit of understanding kinetics to action and reactions compounding an ever changing balancing universe forward from here.

I can play that game too.

Your perception of logic is flawed, because your kinetic energy is focused on reverse instead of forward, and your universe is forever compressing from this moment.

RunningWithScissors » 28 Aug 2022, 5:40 am » wrote: ↑

28 Aug 2022, 5:40 am

I can play that game too.

Your perception of logic is flawed, because your kinetic energy is focused on reverse instead of forward, and your universe is forever compressing from this moment.

What game am I playing? I describe evolving as one of a kind regardless which one is the topic of divide and conquer actual life with ways to factually believe now isn't eternity and hell will fall upon anyone not complying with general consensus of their geographical location adapting to the moment.

To be actually alive or to be a character on the world stage sustaining theaters of doubt. Academia and arts, church and state, economic and social rank are 6 polarities on three axioms sustaining 24/7 mantra rule over actually limited to evolving here as one of a kind

Can you imagine what that looks like as a 4 dimensional graph that illustrates day, night, dawn, dusk, opposing solstices and equinoxes at the same time separating 8 great grandparents 4 grandparents, 2 parenting each added great great grandchild living here now within the remaining 5 generations present?

https://i.postimg.cc/Z5ZDRJH1/Picture-153.jpg

the simple suggestion that corrupted ancestries into current life as everyone made it become separate realities within one species https://i.postimg.cc/4xbqbYnf/Picture-150.jpg think outside self contained to your own skin.

RunningWithScissors » 28 Aug 2022, 2:06 am » wrote: ↑

28 Aug 2022, 2:06 am

It's 4x4 on the first and 4x4 on the second. You do have to slide 3 marbles on the 2nd turn and use your control marbles. you're so close! 

The rest of your control marbles will solve the puzzle.

I think there is a disconnect.

Under what scenario is the puzzle NOT solved?

I believe I have solved the puzzle. Under no condition have I failed to identify the odd marble and whether it was lighter or heavier.

RunningWithScissors » 28 Aug 2022, 3:35 am » wrote: ↑

28 Aug 2022, 3:35 am

Nice try, but that fails unless you get lucky. 2nd turn is 4x4. And yo u have to move 3 mables, not 2.

You do understand I skipped step one, right? That I BEGAN with 8 oddly weighted marbles and 4 controls, because I had already solved for the 4 sequestered on the first weighing holding the culprit?

1. 2nd turn (the first turn in my explanation) IS 4x4 under my solution.
2. I DID move 3 marbles from side a - 2 from side b.
3. When does it fail? I covered every scenario, and it never failed. I don't think you read my solution correctly. Tell me the scenario under which I don't "get lucky" and my solution fails.

One more note: Turn 2 COULD be 3x3: 2 blues and a red against 2 blues and a control. The fourth marble on turn 2 is a habit, not a necessity. 

 
 

Cannonpointer » 28 Aug 2022, 8:44 am » wrote: ↑

28 Aug 2022, 8:44 am

1. 2nd turn IS 4x4 under my solution.
2. I DID move 3 marbles from side a - 2 from side b.
3. When does it fail? I covered every scenario, nd it never failed. I don;t think you read my solution correctly. Tell me the scenario under which I don't get lucky and it fails.

You do understand I skipped step one, right? That I BEGAN with 8 oddly weighted marbles and 4 controls, because I hd alredy solved for the 4 sequestered on the first weighing holding the culprit?

Too much for me to read right now. I'll send you the solution, and you can tell us if you solved it. I hope you did, you're a smart dude! 

RunningWithScissors » 28 Aug 2022, 8:47 am » wrote: ↑

28 Aug 2022, 8:47 am

Too much for me to read right now. I'll send you the solution, and you can tell us if you solved it. I hope you did, you're a smart dude!

I am 100% certain that I solved it. Under every scenario.

I think the disconnect is that I skipped the first turn and began my explanation with turn one already resolved off-camera, and I failed to adequately explain that.

RunningWithScissors » 28 Aug 2022, 8:47 am » wrote: ↑

28 Aug 2022, 8:47 am

Too much for me to read right now. I'll send you the solution, and you can tell us if you solved it. I hope you did, you're a smart dude! 

one tack mantra again, your solution or no way.