Why not just reproduce the old fashioned way? LolVegas » 23 Jun 2022, 10:47 am » wrote: ↑ They are trying to use dna as a hard drive. DNA can store one petabytes of data. That means if you store your DNA onto this hard drive, then transfer it into a operating system that can run it, your consciousness will be saved.
You really are lost in that old concept "I think, therefore I am.".Vegas » 23 Jun 2022, 11:06 am » wrote: ↑ It's not about reproducing. It's about carrying your own conscious on after your body is gone.
Right...but a child has a consciousness also.Vegas » 23 Jun 2022, 11:06 am » wrote: ↑ It's not about reproducing. It's about carrying your own conscious on after your body is gone.
Engendering contempt =/= "pissing off," tranny fan.Skans » 23 Jun 2022, 10:45 am » wrote: ↑ I am aware of this, and yes, it is impressive. This **** is going to happen, like it or not. Just about when I'm ready to check out of this place, I'm hoping I'll be able to download myself to a robot who will continue posting on this forum, pissing @Cannonpointer off forever.
Why can't some fundamental reason for existing be programmed into it?FOS » 23 Jun 2022, 10:43 am » wrote: ↑ But you seem to be missing my fundamental point.
For any ai to do anything it needs to be able to answer why it does it. And it will never have an answer to that question.
Well I posted about that also a bit later.Skans » 23 Jun 2022, 11:15 am » wrote: ↑ Why can't some fundamental reason for existing be programmed into it?
FOS » 23 Jun 2022, 11:12 am » wrote: ↑ Right...but a child has a consciousness also.
This feels to me like a malfunction of the liberal mind...extreme individualism.
My simple question would be how much "your" consciousness really is 'yours'...especially if it is reduced to a computer program.
Identical twins do have distinct consciousness of course.
To me...it seems like if you admit that your consciousness can be removed from the body and reproduced on a computer...then you are forced to admit that nothing is special about consciousness. And indeed what even are 'you'?
My consciesness is ALREADY saved. Everyone's is - unless they are damned!Vegas » 23 Jun 2022, 10:47 am » wrote: ↑ They are trying to use dna as a hard drive. DNA can store one petabytes of data. That means if you store your DNA onto this hard drive, then transfer it into a operating system that can run it, your consciousness will be saved.
Well let me put it this way. Either there is some divine aspect to human consciousness or there is not.Vegas » 23 Jun 2022, 11:16 am » wrote: ↑ Consciousness can be difficult to define in context like this. It isn't just about being aware, plants are also aware. Basically, any lifeform that isn't dead can fit inside the definition of consciousness in one way or another. I think their thesis is based on the subject's behavioral patterns. From there, the AI would make predictions on how the subject would think in a given scenario.
Cannonpointer » 23 Jun 2022, 11:19 am » wrote: ↑ My consciesness is ALREADY saved. Everyone's is - unless they are damned!
Saved or damned?
These folks are damned, of course:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMvfSb7Svd0
As is Skans' hero - a damned zero:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcmyUXxFSIM&t=25s
So how do you solve my problem with it?impartialobserver » 23 Jun 2022, 11:10 am » wrote: ↑ I would agree that sentience is possible. When will this come to fruition... no one knows.
I don't know. How about "picking cotton makes you happy". Or, put it in a Barbara Eden body and tell it that pleasing your Master makes you happy.
But then they will just pick cotton all day and never even appear sentientSkans » 23 Jun 2022, 11:29 am » wrote: ↑ I don't know. How about "picking cotton makes you happy". Or, put it in a Barbara Eden body and tell it that pleasing your Master makes you happy.
HOW MAY I PLEASE YOU, MASTER?
Well, you could ask it some questions while its picking cotton. Maybe there can even be a reward system, similar to dopamine, that let's it get off on picking cotton. Just an example.FOS » 23 Jun 2022, 11:31 am » wrote: ↑ But then they will just pick cotton all day and never even appear sentient
Answering your questions would not assist its cotton picking.Skans » 23 Jun 2022, 11:42 am » wrote: ↑ Well, you could ask it some questions while its picking cotton. Maybe there can even be a reward system, similar to dopamine, that let's it get off on picking cotton. Just an example.
For the most part, it's not about men wanting to perpetuate the species that gets women pregnant. It's all about that orgasmic, dopamine rush when a guy plants his seed between the fertile loins of a coaxing vixen.
But you aren't saying why I am wrong about the problem