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If a law abiding citizen wants to buy a gun...............None of my business.
If said person is careful and responsible with their guns.....None of my business.
If two consenting adults want to have sex......None of my business.
If a woman wants an abortion......None of my business.
If someone needs to change their gender....None of my business.
If a transgender person wants to compete in sports......None of my business.

 

ScottMon » 26 Jun 2022, 12:30 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jun 2022, 12:30 pm

If a law abiding citizen wants to buy a gun...............None of my business.
If said person is careful and responsible with their guns.....None of my business.
If two consenting adults want to have sex......None of my business.
If a woman wants an abortion......None of my business.
If someone needs to change their gender....None of my business.
If a transgender person wants to compete in sports......None of my business.

 

ha ha ha ha ha ha.
What is a person's self employed business beyond socially getting alone with mutually evolving counterparts of this species evolving in plain sight now.

ScottMon » 26 Jun 2022, 12:30 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jun 2022, 12:30 pm

If a law abiding citizen wants to buy a gun...............None of my business.
If said person is careful and responsible with their guns.....None of my business.
If two consenting adults want to have sex......None of my business.
If a woman wants an abortion......None of my business.
If someone needs to change their gender....None of my business.
If a transgender person wants to compete in sports......None of my business.

If a person wants to change gender or have an abortion ...."none of my business" literally means I should not have to subsidize ANY OF IT....  
If transgender want to compete in sports...let them form their own leagues. Competing against women is "NONE OF THEIR BUSINESS" since they are not women.

You should have thought these things through. 

GHETTOBLASTER » 26 Jun 2022, 12:39 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jun 2022, 12:39 pm

If a person wants to change gender or have an abortion ...."none of my business" literally means I should not have to subsidize ANY OF IT....  
If transgender want to compete in sports...let them form their own leagues. Competing against women is "NONE OF THEIR BUSINESS" since they are not women.

You should have thought these things through.

Bingo! in our generation. You get knocked up... You pay! or the guy!!!
now they want rides..   
 

GHETTOBLASTER » 26 Jun 2022, 12:39 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jun 2022, 12:39 pm

If a person wants to change gender or have an abortion ...."none of my business" literally means I should not have to subsidize ANY OF IT....  
If transgender want to compete in sports...let them form their own leagues. Competing against women is "NONE OF THEIR BUSINESS" since they are not women.

You should have thought these things through.

 
....the disciple of rabbi sasquatch barron haviv finally connects!!....after many many weak swings and misses!...   
 

sootedupCyndi » 26 Jun 2022, 12:45 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jun 2022, 12:45 pm

Bingo! in our generation. You get knocked up... You pay! or the guy!!!
now they want rides.. 

GB thinks he's paying for abortions.  He's just too stupid to argue with...
 

ScottMon » 26 Jun 2022, 12:47 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jun 2022, 12:47 pm

GB thinks he's paying for abortions.  He's just too stupid to argue with...

OH they are trying.. Is it covered by medicaid?.. so if the ladies want one.. Whats the big deal? They need a ride? ha ha ha...
All I know is I am PiZZED over this decision.. Because we won't hear the end of it now.. HOOT. We are f-d for the next ten years. LOL

ScottMon » 26 Jun 2022, 12:47 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jun 2022, 12:47 pm

GB thinks he's paying for abortions.  He's just too stupid to argue with...

Are My Tax Dollars Paying for Abortion? - Right to Life of Michigan (rtl.org)

I see you aren't yet finished making yourself look like a stupid  piece of ****.
Please continue to march......  
 

sootedupCyndi » 26 Jun 2022, 12:52 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jun 2022, 12:52 pm

OH they are trying.. Is it covered by medicaid?.. so if the ladies want one.. Whats the big deal? They need a ride? ha ha ha...
All I know is I am PiZZED over this decision.. Because we won't hear the end of it now.. HOOT. We are f-d for the next ten years. LOL

Are My Tax Dollars Paying for Abortion? - Right to Life of Michigan (rtl.org)
 

sootedupCyndi » 26 Jun 2022, 12:52 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jun 2022, 12:52 pm

OH they are trying.. Is it covered by medicaid?.. so if the ladies want one.. Whats the big deal? They need a ride? ha ha ha...
All I know is I am PiZZED over this decision.. Because we won't hear the end of it now.. HOOT. We are f-d for the next ten years. LOL

They aren't paid by GB.  Thats a fact.
 

ScottMon » 26 Jun 2022, 12:56 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jun 2022, 12:56 pm

I am hopelessly cornered with facts...and continue to blurt out ;lies.  Thats a fact.

Does Planned Parenthood use taxpayer money on abortions?Planned Parenthood receives more than $500 million dollars in taxpayer funding every year. Much of their taxpayer money comes through Medicaid, which is jointly funded by federal and state taxpayers. Currently 16 states add their own state taxpayer dollars to pay directly for abortions. They also receive many taxpayer dollars through the Title X family planning program. There is zero meaningful separation of staff, facilities, and operational costs at Planned Parenthood clinics between government-funded services and abortions. Federal contract rules allow taxpayer funds to pay staff salaries, supplies, and facility costs on a “pro-rated” basis. It is merely an accounting gimmick; tax dollars literally pay the rent and energy costs to keep abortion clinics running and funds staff that help perform abortions. Planned Parenthood claims abortion is inseparable from their mission, and with half of their budget coming from taxpayers, it’s safe to say our tax dollars are inseparable from their abortion mission. Their annual reports show Planned Parenthood’s dramatic increase in taxpayer funding has led them to expand abortion while cutting clients and other health services.
 

ScottMon » 26 Jun 2022, 12:56 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jun 2022, 12:56 pm

They aren't paid by GB.  Thats a fact.

Is that the beef then?.. Hey you play- better be prepared to pay. and get your own ride..  

ScottMon » 26 Jun 2022, 12:30 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jun 2022, 12:30 pm

If a law abiding citizen wants to buy a gun...............None of my business.
If said person is careful and responsible with their guns.....None of my business.
If two consenting adults want to have sex......None of my business.
If a woman wants an abortion......None of my business.
If someone needs to change their gender....None of my business.
If a transgender person wants to compete in sports......None of my business.

Fine!  Here I'll add my requirements as codicils:

If a law abiding citizen wants to buy a gun...............None of my business.
And if buyer is a crack addict and lies about it in order to buy a gun like Hunter Biden, he's committed a felony and needs to be arrested and prosecuted.
If said person is careful and responsible with their guns.....None of my business.
And those law abiding citizens SHOULD NOT be restricted from the guns, ammo, or accessories they buy simply because a demented fraudulent president doesn't like the 2nd Amendment or doesn't believe in it's absolute authority.
If two consenting adults want to have sex......None of my business.
And if the result is a pregnancy they didn't want, they must handle those consequences by either travelling to where an abortion is legal, paying the full cost themselves, or putting the child up for adoption.
If a woman wants an abortion......None of my business.
Unless they waited too long to request one as the state laws demand and doing so would then be considered infanticide.  Then both the woman and the doctor performing the abortion should be severely punished.
If someone needs to change their gender....None of my business.
But they would NOT EVER receive all the rights associated with the sex they were born with.
If a transgender person wants to compete in sports......None of my business.
Fairness dictates that it SHOULD be yours and everyone else's business because a simple declaration of a person rejection their true identity is insufficient to allow them to compete in the category of sports dedicated to the factual sexual identity they were born into.

Agreed?

Zeets2 » 26 Jun 2022, 1:04 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jun 2022, 1:04 pm

Fine!  Here I'll add my requirements as codicils:

If a law abiding citizen wants to buy a gun...............None of my business.
And if buyer is a crack addict and lies about it in order to buy a gun like Hunter Biden, he's committed a felony and needs to be arrested and prosecuted.
If said person is careful and responsible with their guns.....None of my business.
And those law abiding citizens SHOULD NOT be restricted from the guns, ammo, or accessories they buy simply because a demented fraudulent president doesn't like the 2nd Amendment or doesn't believe in it's absolute authority.
If two consenting adults want to have sex......None of my business.
And if the result is a pregnancy they didn't want, they must handle those consequences by either travelling to where an abortion is legal, paying the full cost themselves, or putting the child up for adoption.
If a woman wants an abortion......None of my business.
Unless they waited too long to request one as the state laws demand and doing so would then be considered infanticide.  Then both the woman and the doctor performing the abortion should be severely punished.
If someone needs to change their gender....None of my business.
But they would NOT EVER receive all the rights associated with the sex they were born with.
If a transgender person wants to compete in sports......None of my business.
Fairness dictates that it SHOULD be yours and everyone else's business because a simple declaration of a person rejection their true identity is insufficient to allow them to compete in the category of sports dedicated to the factual sexual identity they were born into.

Agreed?

As far the sports go. Nope.  Don't care.  
 

ScottMon » 26 Jun 2022, 1:08 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jun 2022, 1:08 pm

As far the sports go. Nope.  Don't care.

ScottMon » 12 minutes ago » wrote: ↑
12 minutes ago
I am hopelessly cornered with facts...and continue to blurt out ;lies.  Thats a fact.

Does Planned Parenthood use taxpayer money on abortions?Planned Parenthood receives more than $500 million dollars in taxpayer funding every year. Much of their taxpayer money comes through Medicaid, which is jointly funded by federal and state taxpayers. Currently 16 states add their own state taxpayer dollars to pay directly for abortions. They also receive many taxpayer dollars through the Title X family planning program. There is zero meaningful separation of staff, facilities, and operational costs at Planned Parenthood clinics between government-funded services and abortions. Federal contract rules allow taxpayer funds to pay staff salaries, supplies, and facility costs on a “pro-rated” basis. It is merely an accounting gimmick; tax dollars literally pay the rent and energy costs to keep abortion clinics running and funds staff that help perform abortions. Planned Parenthood claims abortion is inseparable from their mission, and with half of their budget coming from taxpayers, it’s safe to say our tax dollars are inseparable from their abortion mission. Their annual reports show Planned Parenthood’s dramatic increase in taxpayer funding has led them to expand abortion while cutting clients and other health services.
 

ScottMon » 26 Jun 2022, 1:08 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jun 2022, 1:08 pm

As far the sports go. Nope.  Don't care.

You don't care if a man calls himself a woman in any female sport and demands that everyone else accept his personal perversion?
Do you realize that you're advocating for the end of women's sports?
How long before there are several men on each of the women's basketball teams make it pointless to even have a women's team?
Think the women's sports in the Olympics would have any appeal to anyone any longer?
It doesn't matter to you that women lose out on millions of dollars worth of prizes and fame along with college scholarships?
Would you like to see a man who identifies as a woman box, wrestle, or fight in a MMA match against a women, which could easily result in her death?  Does it become your business after one is maimed or dies?

If you claim to already have no interest in sports anyway, simple fairness should require you to at least give a **** about those being harmed by it.

 

ScottMon » 26 Jun 2022, 12:47 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jun 2022, 12:47 pm

GB thinks he's paying for abortions.  He's just too stupid to argue with...

Can government employee insurance plans fund abortions?Many do, at all levels of government. In addition to direct employees of government in administrative positions there are public hospitals, schools, colleges and universities that receive large amounts of tax funding and have abortion coverage in their employee health plans.

ScottMon » 26 Jun 2022, 12:30 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jun 2022, 12:30 pm

If a law abiding citizen wants to buy a gun...............None of my business.
If said person is careful and responsible with their guns.....None of my business.
If two consenting adults want to have sex......None of my business.
If a woman wants an abortion......None of my business.
If someone needs to change their gender....None of my business.
If a transgender person wants to compete in sports......None of my business.

I am with you on all of that.  On the last two science is starting to speak.  If you are an adult and you want to, change your gender.

As far as sports FINA which is the governing body for international swimmers just put in place a policy that says a trans athlete must have transitioned before age 12 to compete in women’s events.   The science is telling them that going thru puberty as a male give them an advantage.

So, if they wish to compete they either have to compete in the birth gender, or in the open category, or have to prove they have not experienced any part of male puberty beyond Tanner Stage 2 or before age 12, whichever is later."

ScottMon » 26 Jun 2022, 12:56 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jun 2022, 12:56 pm

They aren't paid by GB.  Thats a fact.

 Does Obamacare (Affordable Care Act) fund abortion?Some individuals receiving government subsidies to buy health insurance use those taxpayer dollars to purchase abortion coverage. There is an abortion surcharge in place as an accounting gimmick to separate tax dollars from private dollars, but it doesn’t change the fact that taxpayer-subsidized plans are paying for abortions. President Trump updated federal rules in 2019 to make abortion coverage a separate bill, but that rule was rescinded by President Biden. Because of Obamacare the only health insurance plans available in some states are ones that cover abortion (Alaska, California, District of Columbia, Hawaii, Maine, Massachusetts, New York, and Vermont), forcing prolife citizens there to either purchase abortion coverage or violate the federal insurance mandate. Obamacare did give states the option to exclude abortion coverage as a “built-in” benefit in health exchange plans. As of 2021 there are 26 states that have opted out, including Michigan. Citizens of these states are still forced to fund insurance plans that cover elective abortion in the states that haven’t opted out.

ScottMon » 26 Jun 2022, 12:56 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jun 2022, 12:56 pm

They aren't paid by GB.  Thats a fact.

Do state tax dollars pay for abortions?Every state has the option to use their own funds to supplement Medicaid coverage for abortions, or to restrict it. There are 16 states required by state law or court order to pay for essentially all abortions for Medicaid recipients. Michigan once paid for half of all abortions in the state when our Medicaid program covered abortions on-demand. In 1988, 57 percent of Michigan voters affirmed a ban on Medicaid-funded abortions, dropping the number of abortions by 25 percent within two years. Since 1988, estimates show the ban has prevented more than 250,000 abortions.