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ScottMon » 26 Jun 2022, 12:47 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jun 2022, 12:47 pm

GB thinks he's paying for abortions.  He's just too stupid to argue with...

What is the Mexico City Policy?Many international organizations support abortion as a means for population control overseas. Ronald Reagan first addressed the issue of funding these groups by announcing a new policy while at a summit in Mexico City. This “Mexico City Policy” withdrew federal funding through our USAID program for organizations that provide abortions or promote the legalization of abortion in other countries. This policy is implemented through an executive order, depending on the views of each new president. President Reagan, both Presidents Bush, and President Trump implemented the Mexico City Policy. Presidents Clinton, Obama, and Biden suspended it.

ScottMon » 26 Jun 2022, 12:47 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jun 2022, 12:47 pm

GB thinks he's paying for abortions.  He's just too stupid to argue with...

Are American Taxpayers Paying For Abortion? (forbes.com)


 

ScottMon » Today, 10:47 am » wrote: ↑Today, 10:47 am
GB thinks he's paying for abortions. He's just too stupid to argue with...
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THE EASIEST WAY TO DEFEAT ANY LIAR IS BY TELLING THE TRUTH

"Can government employee insurance plans fund abortions?Many do, at all levels of government. In addition to direct employees of government in administrative positions there are public hospitals, schools, colleges and universities that receive large amounts of tax funding and have abortion coverage in their employee health plans."
 

ScottMon » 26 Jun 2022, 12:30 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jun 2022, 12:30 pm

If a law abiding citizen wants to buy a gun...............None of my business.
If said person is careful and responsible with their guns.....None of my business.
If two consenting adults want to have sex......None of my business.
If a woman wants an abortion......None of my business.
If someone needs to change their gender....None of my business.
If a transgender person wants to compete in sports......None of my business.

it is not that simple. But I'm glad you are slipping into some libertarian exit from liberalism. That is part of the necessary journey. 

But no...what is your 'individual' business or not isn't even part of the problem. That is just a way for you to attempt to escape from politics because perhaps the hard questions are too difficult for you. 

The fact is that when humans come together to form a society they must address what will make themselves thrive or fail. What will be permitted in that society...what will be incentivized and disincentivized is of critical importance....because it will all ultimately impact how well the society functions...

and that is basically a sort of collective game theory strategy that addresses the environmental circumstances. You can actually turn it into a massive math problem that takes into account real biological instincts that humans have and the likely outcome of permitted and not permitted behavior. 

That is perhaps a more difficult problem. To address than being able to do arbitrarily ethics based libertarian handwaving...but it is also far more useful.. 

ScottMon » 26 Jun 2022, 12:30 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jun 2022, 12:30 pm

If a law abiding citizen wants to buy a gun...............None of my business.
If said person is careful and responsible with their guns.....None of my business.
If two consenting adults want to have sex......None of my business.
If a woman wants an abortion......None of my business.
If someone needs to change their gender....None of my business.
If a transgender person wants to compete in sports......None of my business.

2 hearts beating?
A woman has a right to kill herself.
But she does not have a right to kill her baby.
Not 1wk. after delivery........nor.......1wk. before delivery.
That is what all of this fuss is about.

ScottMon » 26 Jun 2022, 12:30 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jun 2022, 12:30 pm

If a law abiding citizen wants to buy a gun...............None of my business.
If said person is careful and responsible with their guns.....None of my business.
If two consenting adults want to have sex......None of my business.
If a woman wants an abortion......None of my business.
If someone needs to change their gender....None of my business.
If a transgender person wants to compete in sports......None of my business.

why not just leave them alone?  If they want to rape children, that’s okay 

ScottMon » 26 Jun 2022, 12:47 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jun 2022, 12:47 pm

GB thinks he's paying for abortions.  He's just too stupid to argue with...

Confirmed: Your Tax dollars are Funding Big Abortionhttps://aclj.org › pro-life › confirmed-your-tax-dollars-are-funding-big-abortionThe Government Accountability Office (GAO) has finally confirmed what we’ve been saying all along: Planned Parenthood is using your tax dollars to promote abortion—more specifically, 1.5 billion tax

                     

ScottMon » 26 Jun 2022, 12:47 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jun 2022, 12:47 pm

GB thinks he's paying for abortions.  He's just too stupid to argue with...

  Shock: More than half of abortions in Medicaid-coverage states …https://www.liveaction.org › news › half-abortions-medicaid-taxpayerShock: More than half 
of abortions in Medicaid-coverage states are taxpayer funded. By Carole Novielli | August 26, 2018 , 10:12am. The American public is told that their tax dollars do not fund  
 
 

Zeets2 » 26 Jun 2022, 1:26 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jun 2022, 1:26 pm

You don't care if a man calls himself a woman in any female sport and demands that everyone else accept his personal perversion?
Do you realize that you're advocating for the end of women's sports?
How long before there are several men on each of the women's basketball teams make it pointless to even have a women's team?
Think the women's sports in the Olympics would have any appeal to anyone any longer?
It doesn't matter to you that women lose out on millions of dollars worth of prizes and fame along with college scholarships?
Would you like to see a man who identifies as a woman box, wrestle, or fight in a MMA match against a women, which could easily result in her death?  Does it become your business after one is maimed or dies?

If you claim to already have no interest in sports anyway, simple fairness should require you to at least give a **** about those being harmed by it.

Seriously, Its not my problem to solve.  They need to work it out on their own. 
 

TB7 » 26 Jun 2022, 4:29 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jun 2022, 4:29 pm

Confirmed: Your Tax dollars are Funding Big Abortionhttps://aclj.org › pro-life › confirmed-your-tax-dollars-are-funding-big-abortionThe Government Accountability Office (GAO) has finally confirmed what we’ve been saying all along: Planned Parenthood is using your tax dollars to promote abortion—more specifically, 1.5 billion tax

                     

your statistics are wrong and your article links to items that don't support the original link.  Try something less biased and more accurate.

GHETTO BLASTER » 26 Jun 2022, 12:54 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jun 2022, 12:54 pm

Are My Tax Dollars Paying for Abortion? - Right to Life of Michigan (rtl.org)
 

your tax dollars are paying for the non aborted children from conception to masters degree in college. $500.00 outpatient procedure sure is more cost efficient than paying child support to a woman with 4 kids from 3 different fathers. none supporting their own child.

ScottMon » 26 Jun 2022, 5:31 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jun 2022, 5:31 pm

Seriously, Its not my problem to solve.  They need to work it out on their own.

No one is asking you to solve anything, nitwit!
All it takes is having the integrity to speak out and recognize that the idiotic policies of the demented moron you voted for have seriously hurt your country.

But like most libs, you're too feckless and stubborn to admit that the mess he's put us in is partially your own fault!
 

Zeets2 » 26 Jun 2022, 5:42 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jun 2022, 5:42 pm

No one is asking you to solve anything, nitwit!
All it takes is having the integrity to speak out and recognize that the idiotic policies of the demented moron you voted for have seriously hurt your country.

But like most libs, you're too feckless and stubborn to admit that the mess he's put us in is partially your own fault!

So You, Unlike your right winger compatriots, Agree that Its none of my business if transgender athletes compete?
 

ScottMon » 26 Jun 2022, 5:45 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jun 2022, 5:45 pm

So You, Unlike your right winger compatriots, Agree that Its none of my business if transgender athletes compete?

No I don't!  As a pretty fair athlete in my youth myself, I don't and won't accept such a premise.  Girls and women trained hard to compete on a level playing field for generations, only to now have the rug pulled out from under them because liberals CAN NO LONGER DEFINE WHAT A WOMAN IS!  And every Democrat that still supports your demented idiot should be as outraged about it as I am!  But by claiming you don't care tells me you simply don't need yet another Biden complete policy failure of such utter stupidity that you'd have to admit to!
 

Zeets2 » 26 Jun 2022, 5:54 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jun 2022, 5:54 pm

No I don't!  As a pretty fair athlete in my youth myself, I don't and won't accept such a premise.  Girls and women trained hard to compete on a level playing field for generations, only to now have the rug pulled out from under them because liberals CAN NO LONGER DEFINE WHAT A WOMAN IS!  And every Democrat that still supports your demented idiot should be as outraged about it as I am!  But by claiming you don't care tells me you simply don't need yet another Biden complete policy failure of such utter stupidity that you'd have to admit to!

Nice spin.  But truthfully, It's none of my business who competes in whatever.  
 

ScottMon » 26 Jun 2022, 5:31 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jun 2022, 5:31 pm

Seriously, Its not my problem to solve.  They need to work it out on their own. 
 

You choose to remain intellectually absolutely corrupted cradle to grave, and you say it isn't your problem?

and my responsibility to fix? I don't have a social conscience. I do have a complete understanding of how life works being perpetually balancing population occupying time inhabiting space reproductively here.

ScottMon » 26 Jun 2022, 5:56 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jun 2022, 5:56 pm

Nice spin.  But truthfully, It's none of my business who competes in whatever.

Sounds a bit like those words are coming from the last person regularly chosen for a team sport in high school, and it still stings.
Obviously, fairness in sports or having integrity in your vote aren't among the qualities you possess, are they?
 

Zeets2 » 26 Jun 2022, 6:28 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jun 2022, 6:28 pm

Sounds a bit like those words are coming from the last person regularly chosen for a team sport in high school, and it still stings.
Obviously, fairness in sports or having integrity in your vote aren't among the qualities you possess, are they?

I care a great deal about voting integrity.  My vote should count and according to 2020 election, It did.  
 

ScottMon » 26 Jun 2022, 6:29 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jun 2022, 6:29 pm

I care a great deal about voting integrity.  My vote should count and according to 2020 election, It did.  
 

Every vote was counted but every vote wasn't verified beyond software doing the programmed counting.

omh » 26 Jun 2022, 6:35 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jun 2022, 6:35 pm

Every vote was counted but every vote wasn't verified beyond software doing the programmed counting.

Every vote was triple verified.  Trump's own man stated it was the most secure election in history.  Bill Barr admitted there was no proof of mass voter fraud knowing that he'd be fired for saying it.