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yeah... Trump's "interesting" alright. so was Adolph Hitler. Most sociopaths ARE. Especially the ones who manage to be a fkng cancer upon the world.

Ty Cobb: 'Damning Facts' Show Trump Incited Insurrection

‘Beyond reprehensible’: Former GOP governor blasts Donald Trump on CNN

Donald Trump's PAC is wants to shell-out legal fees to January 6 probe subjects — buying loyalty, silence, bribery, (witness tampering?)

Lincoln Project rips Trump’s ‘shocking abuse of power’ after bombshell report on 2020 election

'More than a dozen' Trump allies were offered free legal services by key political action committee

Trump Committed '20-Year Felony' With Jan. 6 Actions, Glenn Kirschner Says

Revisiting Trump's long history of trying to influence witnesses - CNNPolitics

Concerns over witness tampering after Trump PAC offered to pay Jan. 6 witnesses’ legal fees



 
 

New Poll Of Historians Just Ranked All U.S. Presidents–And Hoo Boy, Trump Will Not Be Happy NEW POLL RANKS TRUMP AT 43, BIDEN AT 19

MEANWHILE:

THE CRIMES Trump Can (Should) Be Indicted For NOW, According to Watergate Prosecutor and Others

Trump wanted to "neutralize" presidential chain of succession at the Capitol on January 6: expert | Salon.com

Trump Freaks Out Over Possible ‘CRIMINAL CHARGES’ By Blasting ‘Warmongering and Despicable Human Being Liz Cheney’

Watergate prosecutor says slapping Trump with a charge of rebellion or insurrection could prevent him from ever holding office again

THE RACE CARD:

Trump Calls Jan. 6 Panel 'Thugs' Says They Should 'Go After People 'Burning Down Cities' | HuffPost Latest News

hmmmm. now I wonder what people would THAT be???
 

Mitt Romney: The return of Trump would feed the 'sickness' of 'deceit and distrust' - Raw Story

Wyoming GOP Icon Rips Into ‘Spoiled Brat Trump,’ Urges Him to ‘Stop the Squeal’ After Taping Ad For Liz Cheney

Trump firm must provide records to Congress: court rules Mazars has 'uniquely pertinent information

Trump Now Claims He Won Wisconsin Since State Court Has Restricted Ballot Drop Boxes | HuffPost

Trump left the board of his beloved Twitter knockoff—just before feds subpoenaed it

Federal officials failed to investigate Trump campaign's money 'laundering': lawsuit

Alex Holder Says His Trump Doc Will Prove Campaign Incited Capitol Riot
 

B.See » 28 Jun 2022, 8:10 am » wrote: ↑

28 Jun 2022, 8:10 am

I've posted a number of Trump threads, including the following:

A secretive Pentagon program that started on Trump's last day in office just ended. The mystery has not. - Liberal Forum Political Chat Room

The Insurrectionist in Chief Promises to Pardon the Insurrectionists - Liberal Forum Political Chat Room

TRUMP PHONE LOGS TURNED OVER TO HOUSE SHOW 7 HOUR GAP ON JAN 6 - Liberal Forum Political Chat Room

LOL: Trump campaigns on his honesty at North Carolina MAGA rally - Liberal Forum Political Chat Room

And all of them, at one point or another, dealt with what many are now only learning or coming to the REALIZATION OF.  That Donald Trump has committed (and still is committing) MANY CRIMES.

note: Like all of my PG threads, spamming, trolling, personal insults, falsifying direct quotes, hate speech, and drive-by **** postings will not be allowed. Rational discussions and counterpoints WILL be. And those who've consistently engaged in such have already been banned.

Trump regime’s amazing list of crimes keeps getting longer — but we can't afford to look away | Salon.com

'A criminal investigation is warranted': CNN legal analyst changes mind on Trump liability after J6 hearings   (changed his mind?? Like you haven't been keeping up with CURRENT EVENTS??)

Donald Trump pressured officials to 'say the election was corrupt' in letter dubbed 'murder-suicide pact' | US News

Former Obama AG Eric Holder says Trump telling DOJ to declare election ‘corrupt’ is ‘smoking gun’ | The Hill

FBI Raid on Trump Justice Official Signals a Possible Criminal Investigation

'I have seen no evidence': Fox News host blasts 'unhinged' Trump for election lies - Raw Story

Half of Americans Say Trump Tried to Stay In Office Illegally and Should Be Charged – Mother Jones

nahhh.. no collusion:

Trump Had Secret Call With Putin Before the 2020 Election: Report
 

And walked over to a church with a Christian bible. Who would want to burn down Christian churches and then promote war between Christian Russia and Christian USA? What would they benefit from the war?

Bob » 14 Jul 2022, 5:30 am » wrote: ↑

14 Jul 2022, 5:30 am

And walked over to a church with a Christian bible. Who would want to burn down Christian churches and then promote war between Christian Russia and Christian USA? What would they benefit from the war?

That's a good question. Better still, why would anyone promote ANY war.

Though personally I think that church stunt in which Trump held up an upside down Bible (real Omen type stuff there, imo) was a stunt intended (as Trump usually intends) to drive wedges between Americans and attempt to turn even human rights and civil rights issues (e.g. Chauvin's murder of Floyd) into a cultural war.  Too bad he didn't take into account a helluva lot of people from multiple races, including Christians, saw Chauvin's inhumanity as wrong, period, and took up the cause.
 

The Trump Administration Used Its Food Aid Program for Political Gain, Congressional Investigators Find – Mother Jones

Trump melts down on Truth Social after Georgia DA says she may subpoena him in criminal probe | Salon.com

'Donald is terrified' is an 'understatement' after Cipollone testimony: Mary Trump - Raw Story

Intel expert lays out case against 'deeply suspicious' IRS audits of Trump enemies - Raw Story

Trump rages at top Wisconsin GOP lawmaker to 'Reclaim the Electors' in bid to overturn the 2020 election results - Raw Story

Trump Lawyer Says He Will Be Reinstated as -resident if GOP Win Midterms

What Trump did to Shaye Moss and her family follows a dark American tradition

Why Is Donald Trump Trying to Clear the Way for Steve Bannon to Testify Before Congress? – Mother Jones

HAHAHA: Trump Waives Privilege He Doesn't Have So Steve Bannon Can Lie to the January 6th Committee

Trump Doc Filmmaker Says Trump Doesn't Feel Culpable for Jan. 6 Riot

UH-OH: Trump's AG Bill Barr Has Been Subpoenaed in Billion Dollar Dominion Lawsuit Against FOX News

THE BIG GRIFT CONTINUES:

Misleading Trump Fundraising Appeals Are Flooding Inboxes and Can't Be Stopped

AND:

Trump drafted executive order to seize voting machines so Sidney Powell could decide the election

Trump's former campaign manager: Trump's rhetoric killed Ashli Babbitt - Raw Story

Trump rally in North Carolina canceled as [he is] summoned to court

B.See » 14 Jul 2022, 5:40 am » wrote: ↑

14 Jul 2022, 5:40 am

That's a good question. Better still, why would anyone promote ANY war.

Though personally I think that church stunt in which Trump held up an upside down Bible (real Omen type stuff there, imo) was a stunt intended (as Trump usually intends) to drive wedges between Americans and attempt to turn even human rights and civil rights issues (e.g. Chauvin's murder of Floyd) into a cultural war.  Too bad he didn't take into account a helluva lot of people from multiple races, including Christians, saw Chauvin's inhumanity as wrong, period, and took up the cause.

I have carried bible to a church a few times and never checked to see how it was held, cant read the small print while walking.

Billionaires created socialism for billionaire purposes and if we are not careful we tend to drift off into something similar to a wrestling match show that is not reality. Create war-death, bankrupt people and then take ownership for pennies on the dollar.
https://banned.video/watch?id=62d0892c1fb0f703480c332b

Bob » 14 Jul 2022, 10:39 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Jul 2022, 10:39 pm

I have carried bible to a church a few times and never checked to see how it was held, cant read the small print while walking.

Billionaires created socialism for billionaire purposes and if we are not careful we tend to drift off into something similar to a wrestling match show that is not reality. Create war-death, bankrupt people and then take ownership for pennies on the dollar.
https://banned.video/watch?id=62d0892c1fb0f703480c332b

I'd agree that you are partly correct, Bob. Though I'd be inclined to say that billionaires created both socialism and capitalism for billionaire purposes. And yes, they laugh all the way to the bank. To be sure there is no perfect side, only the lesser of two evils.

Most advanced democracies, even though capitalists, recognize the need for the social aspects of governance that a responsible democracy provides for their citizenry, such as the right to healthcare and the like. Unfortunately the U.S. is one democracy that doesn't regard the latter as a right.

A wrestling match show, perhaps. Though for my money, I'd rather choose the side that isn't laughing all the way to the bank via the demonizing of minorities, the poor, the sick, the infirm, and by promoting hate and intolerance for diversity and inclusion.
 

B.See » 14 Jul 2022, 11:47 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Jul 2022, 11:47 pm

I'd agree that you are partly correct, Bob. Though I'd be inclined to say that billionaires created both socialism and capitalism for billionaire purposes. And yes, they laugh all the way to the bank. To be sure there is no perfect side, only the lesser of two evils.

Most advanced democracies, even though capitalists, recognize the need for the social aspects of governance that a responsible democracy provides for their citizenry, such as the right to healthcare and the like. Unfortunately the U.S. is one democracy that doesn't regard the latter as a right.

A wrestling match show, perhaps. Though for my money, I'd rather choose the side that isn't laughing all the way to the bank via the demonizing of minorities, the poor, the sick, the infirm, and by promoting hate and intolerance for diversity and inclusion.

I am about this that GOD said the GOV will take care of.

B.See » 14 Jul 2022, 11:47 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Jul 2022, 11:47 pm

I'd agree that you are partly correct, Bob. Though I'd be inclined to say that billionaires created both socialism and capitalism for billionaire purposes. And yes, they laugh all the way to the bank. To be sure there is no perfect side, only the lesser of two evils.

Most advanced democracies, even though capitalists, recognize the need for the social aspects of governance that a responsible democracy provides for their citizenry, such as the right to healthcare and the like. Unfortunately the U.S. is one democracy that doesn't regard the latter as a right.

A wrestling match show, perhaps. Though for my money, I'd rather choose the side that isn't laughing all the way to the bank via the demonizing of minorities, the poor, the sick, the infirm, and by promoting hate and intolerance for diversity and inclusion.

Advanced democracy always terminates into some kind of old world styled monarchical-feudal group dependency disaster, etc. This was known 250 years ago and its still true in 2022.  Free speech? No thanks, bust a deal and face the wheel. $600 was said to be enough for the poor and the sick however the fuel price inflation alone amounts to over $700 per year and will be helping to drive up prices on all other products and services.

Advanced world war on civilians, micky mouse explanations from drunken old women and high estrogen males.
 

In recent Trump criminality news:

Trump advisers pressing him to announce 2024 campaign before Lindsey Graham meets with grand jury - Raw Story    (translation: get out of jail free card?)

Trump Tried To Call White House Support Staffer Who Was Talking To Jan. 6 Panel: Report

Trump Intimidated WH Staffer, Now She's Not Testifying. WTF?

If Donald Trump walks while only Jan. 6 bit players are punished, our democracy is doomed

‘Game over’: Steve Bannon audio reveals Trump planned to claim early victory | US elections 2020 | The Guardian

 

GRIFTER Trump Postponed Deposition with NY AG Due to Ivana's Death - But Not His Upcoming Cult Rally

After learning his first wife had passed away Trump tried to raise money off of Ivana's death

There are Tapes. Bannon spilled the beans about Trump's PLANNED Take-over, BEFORE it happened.

UNDER THE BUS - 'They Did it on Their Own’: Trump Tries to Separate Himself From Supporters Who Stormed Capitol on Jan. 6

Trump administration officials are forming a 'shadow government' to take immediate control in 2024

Leaked Bannon clip confirms Trump's false victory claim on election night was planned

‘Drunk monkey with a machine gun crazy’: MSNBC panelist shocked by latest reports on Trump White House  (WHY ARE THEY CONSTANTLY 'SHOCKED' BY ANYTHING THIS FKR HAS SAID OR DONE??)

DEPT. OF "NO COLLUSION"

3 men linked to Russian spies were in 'unhinged' Dec. 18 Oval Office meeting with Trump: report - Raw Story

They defended his ***, thru not one but TWO IMPEACHMENTS. The second for trying to stage a political COUP.  Now they want him to just go away.

TOO LITTLE, TOO LATE:

House Republican who voted against certifying 2020 election results now says Trump 'lost his mind' and that it 'would be best for the party' if someone else led it in 2024

Trump will 'turn on everybody' and use every resource at his disposal to 'muddy the waters' if he's indicted for Jan. 6, Mary Trump says

Trump turned the GOP into a ‘cult’: retired GOP senator says ‘This guy is so full of himself’ - Raw Story

Trump sycophant Steve Bannon' claims Trump would 'lie about anything to win': new book - Raw Story - Celebrating 18 Years of Independent Journalism
 

There's MORE to unpack re Trump's TREASON, especially after Thursday night's J6 bombshell hearing. A LOT more. But I still have older stuff in my cue. So here they are:

Right-wing lawyer advised Trump to use 'martial law' in effort to overturn election - Raw Story

Wisconsin swing voters who once voted for Trump now believe he should be locked up for Jan. 6

Trump Says He Needs 2024 Election Win to Stop Criminal Probes - Rolling Stone

Trump is trying to intimidate Jan 6th witnesses because he is running 'scared': former White House aide

Kushner, Ivanka Trump reported up to $640M in outside income during White House years | The Hill

July 14 Tweet Claims Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner Made $640M While in White House

and...

Pulitzers' '**** off' to Trump's demand they revoke WaPo, NYT awards

The thing that struck ME in watching Thursday night's J6 committee hearings was not the repeated and deliberate mention of the phrase "dereliction of duty" in reference to Trump's actions, nor the already KNOWN report that he WANTED to allow armed protesters through metal detectors, or WANTED to go to the Capitol.

No, it was the realization that Trump and his collaborators working with/for him, including those planted among the protestors, methodically passed the word amongst them that MIKE PENCE was the target.

Targeted him sufficiently enough that Pence's OWN SECRET SERVICE had picked up on enough chatter and radio cross talk to HAVE FEARED FOR THEIR LIVES.

That Trump HIMSELF targeted him/them, then sat back and waited... did NOTHING and CALLED NO ONE....

waited for what HE SURELY EXPECTED TO BE A BLOODBATH.

Trump’s actions on Jan. 6 weren’t dereliction of duty — but much worse: presidential historian

'How is this guy not in jail?' Morning Joe shreds 'sociopath' Trump for 'vile' actions on Jan. 6

Half of Americans think Trump should be charged for jan 6 - but only 12 percent of Republicans

48-pages of Pentagon emails provide ‘dramatic’ insight into Trump admin J6 activities: report 


MEANWHILE:

CRYBABY TRUMP Whines that Pulitzer Won't Rescind Awards for True Stories About His Treason

Trump pressured top Wisconsin Republican to decertify 2020 results, then threatened him

Trump PACs paid $2 million this year to law firms representing January 6 witnesses | CNN Politics

Coup conspirator Jeffrey Clark a top contender to lead DOJ if Trump wins a second term

Despite Pleas From 9/11 Families, Trump Urges Pros to Join Saudi-Backed Golf League – Mother Jones
 

See, this is what happens when you try to be fair and even handed across the board. I've said upfront in my PG threads no personal attacks, drive by **** posting, trolling, racism and senseless content, right?

So the other day someone posts a personal attack, not directed at me, but another poster in one of these threads. A guy who seems to have a liberal pov. But to be fair, I removed the post, but didn't ban him. Gave him another chance, like I'd given to a few others.

What does this joker do in return? He goes through this thread downgrading several posts (though he isn't the only one taking that kind of advantage). 

Live and learn.
 

Murdoch's New York Post publishes scathing critique of Donald Trump | CNN Business

Trump's Own White House Lawyer Says Trump Is In Substantial Legal Jeopardy In Georgia

Trump Faces 'Clear-Cut Criminal Exposure' in Georgia: Attorney

Trump Peeved He Couldn’t Give Himself the Medal of Honor: ‘They Wouldn’t Let Me Do It’ 

Trump’s attempted coup continues – even after January 6 hearings are over for now | Robert Reich | The Guardian

Trump cheers for climate change and Boebert denies escorting for Ted Cruz at Nazi flag waving Tampa youth summit

Evidence exists to indict Trump for a '20-year felony': former US attorney - Raw Story

Inside Trump '25: How former president could gut federal bureaucracy in second term

Trump Returns To Scene Of Attempted Coup For First Time Since Leaving Office | HuffPost Latest News

Uh, oh DOJ Investigating TFG's Actions in Criminal Probe

Unindicted co-conspirator demands cops on every corner in his return to scene of the crime

'They’re all getting indicted': Legal experts respond to new emails exposing Trump's lawyers

NYT: Even Trump’s Co-Conspirators Called Them “Fake Electors”

New emails expose Trump advisers planning 'surprise' at Jan. 6 count


Just A Mile From Where Trump's Mob Wanted To Hang Him, Pence Fails To Mention His Coup

Trump should be criminally charged for role in the Capitol insurrection: congresswoman

Watch: Jared Kushner reveals what Donald Trump tried to omit from his post-insurrection address - Alternet.org

'He doesn't put country first': Trump's former Defense Secretary trashes his patriotism in CNN interview

Malcolm Nance on the Trump insurgency: Jan. 6 was a "template to do it correctly next time" | Salon.com

 

THE INCITER IN CHIEF AND HIS ANTI-DEMOCRACY SYCOPHANTS:

Capitol riots: Prosecutors probe Trump role in election challenge - BBC News

Trump speech outlines plans for future America: Mass executions, internment camps, and martial law

Republicans Say They Don’t Regret Acquitting Trump Over Jan. 6 Riot

As evidence of Trump's coup plot grows, most Republican pundits are only shouting louder

In first DC appearance since leaving office, Trump signals he wants presidential powers to reshape federal bureaucrats to be more MAGA

Ex-Mueller prosecutor catches Trump in Jan. 6 lie: “Cover-up” included Jared Kushner, Stephen Miller | Salon.com

Donald Trump pushes for U.S. dictatorship: "We have to go beyond the governor" (video) | Boing Boing