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DeezerShoove » 30 Jun 2022, 5:30 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jun 2022, 5:30 pm

Muslims are being used just as Christians and Jews are...
Whatever the agenda(s) might be . . . in America.

Adding yet another element, in this case Islam, to a religious crazy quilt is not a salve.
I'm just glad I don't follow a specific organized religion.

Islam has some **** up **** they have yet to tame for the modern world.

I agree except for jews. 

Seriously? What is happening to jews lol? Give me one example.

Also...Islam did not fail to modernize. They actually did especially post ww1. 

But later they decided to unmodernize.

Kinda like the fremen in dune.. 
 
 

Hank » 30 Jun 2022, 5:29 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jun 2022, 5:29 pm

Hitler was very fond of Islam you fascist.

And Islam is historically right wing.  
 

ScottMon » 30 Jun 2022, 5:32 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jun 2022, 5:32 pm

And Islam is historically right wing.

What does right wing mean? Is fascism right wing?

Xavier_Onassis » 30 Jun 2022, 1:17 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jun 2022, 1:17 pm

Neither jinn nor Ohm makes any sense.
Argentina is far from being any sort of Fascist state. And I sure as hell am not moving anywhere because Poppa Wheelie tells me to.

 
   

FOS » 30 Jun 2022, 5:31 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jun 2022, 5:31 pm

I agree except for jews. 

Seriously? What is happening to jews lol? Give me one example.

Also...Islam did not fail to modernize. They actually did especially post ww1. 

But later they decided to unmodernize.

Kinda like the fremen in dune..

You frequently use them yourself as an example. I didn't say things were "happening to" Jews.
Jews and Christians et al are brainwashers, political whores, pedos, etc.

Islam has never really modernized. The Whirling Dervishes maybe...  

Xavier_Onassis » 30 Jun 2022, 1:17 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jun 2022, 1:17 pm

Neither jinn nor Ohm makes any sense.
Argentina is far from being any sort of Fascist state. And I sure as hell am not moving anywhere because Poppa Wheelie tells me to.

Dude what do you know about Argentina?

This guy is still very popular in Argentina...and it is quite fair to call him fascist https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Per%C3%B3n
 

DeezerShoove » 30 Jun 2022, 5:30 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jun 2022, 5:30 pm

Muslims are being used just as Christians and Jews are...
Whatever the agenda(s) might be . . . in America.

Adding yet another element, in this case Islam, to a religious crazy quilt is not a salve.
I'm just glad I don't follow a specific organized religion.

Islam has some **** up **** they have yet to tame for the modern world.

ok, I will ease up. I am atheist and find organized religion to be something that contributes more to destabilizing an area than the converse. Finland, Czech Republic, and Hungary report relatively high levels of atheism or being agnostic at best and they seem to be doing fine. 

DeezerShoove » 30 Jun 2022, 5:38 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jun 2022, 5:38 pm

You frequently use them yourself as an example. I didn't say things were "happening to" Jews.
Jews and Christians et al are brainwashers, political whores, pedos, etc.

Islam has never really modernized. The Whirling Dervishes maybe...

Islam DID 'modernize'.

Afghanistan literally was more liberal about educating women than the west was back in the 40s and 50s. 

Then there was the rise of the wahhabist and salafist movements...whoch viewed modernity as ultimately harmful...and they deliberately overturned modernity and went backwards. (Or forwards depending on your values)
 
 

impartialobserver » 30 Jun 2022, 5:41 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jun 2022, 5:41 pm

ok, I will ease up. I am atheist and find organized religion to be something that contributes more to destabilizing an area than the converse. Finland, Czech Republic, and Hungary report relatively high levels of atheism or being agnostic at best and they seem to be doing fine.

Lists three white countries. Notices nothing.
 

DeezerShoove » 30 Jun 2022, 5:38 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jun 2022, 5:38 pm

You frequently use them yourself as an example. I didn't say things were "happening to" Jews.
Jews and Christians et al are brainwashers, political whores, pedos, etc.

Islam has never really modernized. The Whirling Dervishes maybe...

I don't think I understand what you were saying then. 

Anyway jews are a race. About 1/3rd of jews in the usa are atheist. 
 

FOS » 30 Jun 2022, 5:44 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jun 2022, 5:44 pm

Islam DID 'modernize'.

Afghanistan literally was more liberal about educating women than the west was back in the 40s and 50s. 

Then there was the rise of the wahhabist and salafist movements...whoch viewed modernity as ultimately harmful...and they deliberately overturned modernity and went backwards. (Or forwards depending on your values)

The Shah did that too.
All temporary stuff.
Educating women is not the end all, be all.
Forced marriages and honor killings. Showing the bloody cloth on wedding night.

Did that **** ever go away during their enlightenment in the 40's?

impartialobserver » 30 Jun 2022, 5:41 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jun 2022, 5:41 pm

ok, I will ease up. I am atheist and find organized religion to be something that contributes more to destabilizing an area than the converse. Finland, Czech Republic, and Hungary report relatively high levels of atheism or being agnostic at best and they seem to be doing fine.

The most successful countries in

300 bc? Pagan and white 

0 ad? Pagan and white

300 ad? Pagan and white

600 ad? Christian and white

900 ad? christian and white

1200 ad? Arab and Muslim 

1500 ad? Christian and white

1800 ad Christian and white. 

2020 ad...atheist and white

I'm just a dude who notices stuff.
 
 

FOS » 30 Jun 2022, 5:48 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jun 2022, 5:48 pm

I don't think I understand what you were saying then. 

Anyway jews are a race. About 1/3rd of jews in the usa are atheist.

That wouldn't surprise me in the least.

I know lots of Catholics that are atheists...  

DeezerShoove » 30 Jun 2022, 5:52 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jun 2022, 5:52 pm

The Shah did that too.
All temporary stuff.
Educating women is not the end all, be all.
Forced marriages and honor killings. Showing the bloody cloth on wedding night.

Did that **** ever go away during their enlightenment in the 40's?

The salafist movement was a result of Muslims noticing they did a lot better during the middle ages.

Just like many white people are noticing that they did a lot better back when they were racist

Those who must die will die

I think Lenin said that about kulaks and Russian peasants who were not bolshevik

nuckinfutz » 30 Jun 2022, 1:02 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jun 2022, 1:02 pm

And you keep feeding OHM's ego, like a fool! I am very fed up with him!!
And don't tell us Jinn means no harm! He is a bitter old fool!  
@sooted up Cyndi

Notice how they rush to defend a call for the murder of fellow Americans.
 
 
 

FOS » 30 Jun 2022, 5:55 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jun 2022, 5:55 pm

The salafist movement was a result of Muslims noticing they did a lot better during the middle ages.

Just like many white people are noticing that they did a lot better back when they were racist

Walking a fence is tough.
**** thankless, too.

Lenny Bruce was right about one thing for sure:
He said way back in his day we should all just say "***" all the time.
That would rob the word of its power.

That can be said of so many things these sensitive days.
How many stupid taboos must we live with?
How the hell does a kid grow up without wanting to kill everyone around?

Some people will always spoil for a fight. That is human nature.
Human nature cannot be dictated away with the wave of a wand.

DeezerShoove » 30 Jun 2022, 8:11 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jun 2022, 8:11 pm

Walking a fence is tough.
**** thankless, too.

Lenny Bruce was right about one thing for sure:
He said way back in his day we should all just say "***" all the time.
That would rob the word of its power.

That can be said of so many things these sensitive days.
How many stupid taboos must we live with?
How the hell does a kid grow up without wanting to kill everyone around?

Some people will always spoil for a fight. That is human nature.
Human nature cannot be dictated away with the wave of a wand.

Welll don't walk on a fence. At this point it should be real easy to say **** ***. 

They are killing people over **** mayonnaise in my city
 

ScottMon » 30 Jun 2022, 5:32 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jun 2022, 5:32 pm

And Islam is historically right wing.

Has **** all to do with your comment facist ?

Hank » 30 Jun 2022, 9:04 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jun 2022, 9:04 pm

Has **** all to do with your comment facist ?

American Muslims consistently voted Republican until 9/11.