Do human rights exist without God?

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3 Jul 2022 2:21 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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We base our understanding and grant recognition of rights to fellow human beings as persons created in the image of God. Inalienable rights granted by the creator. Without that recognition do people have Inalienable rights? Is there an agnostic reason competing humans have to respect one another? 
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Neo » 03 Jul 2022, 2:21 pm » wrote: We base our understanding and grant recognition of rights to fellow human beings as persons created in the image of God. Inalienable rights granted by the creator. Without that recognition do people have Inalienable rights? Is there an agnostic reason competing humans have to respect one another?

Not without God!
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Neo » 03 Jul 2022, 2:21 pm » wrote: We base our understanding and grant recognition of rights to fellow human beings as persons created in the image of God. Inalienable rights granted by the creator. Without that recognition do people have Inalienable rights? Is there an agnostic reason competing humans have to respect one another?

"Mark 7:14-23 and many other scriptures explain thoroughly that all the problems which mankind encounters are inner or spiritual in nature. Solution to mankind problems will not be solved by the intellect of man. Man offers programs such as NA, AA, anti-poverty and anti-racial programs and hundreds of others which may slightly curtail negative actions but won’t solve the problems."
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Neo » 03 Jul 2022, 2:21 pm » wrote: We base our understanding and grant recognition of rights to fellow human beings as persons created in the image of God. Inalienable rights granted by the creator. Without that recognition do people have Inalienable rights? Is there an agnostic reason competing humans have to respect one another? 
concept of human rights are intellectual, not instinctive. physical eternal life functions in plain sight, not planed language arts directing social outcomes for all 5 generations present in an ever changing ancestries population occupying space as timed apart here reproductively present.
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omh » 03 Jul 2022, 2:33 pm » wrote: concept of human rights are intellectual, not instinctive. physical eternal life functions in plain sight, not planed language arts directing social outcomes for all 5 generations present in an ever changing ancestries population occupying space as timed apart here reproductively present.

You did not mention God once!
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roadkill » 03 Jul 2022, 2:35 pm » wrote: You did not mention God once!
Again, now being eternity for all things cycled apart now eternally changing total sum present, evolving and creation are the same thing going on here be it combined molecular content eroding or ancestral displacements decomposing after their one of a kind events.
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omh » 03 Jul 2022, 2:37 pm » wrote: Again, now being eternity for all things cycled apart now eternally changing total sum present, evolving and creation are the same thing going on here be it combined molecular content eroding or ancestral displacements decomposing after their one of a kind events.

You did not mention God once!
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Neo » 03 Jul 2022, 2:21 pm » wrote: We base our understanding and grant recognition of rights to fellow human beings as persons created in the image of God. Inalienable rights granted by the creator. Without that recognition do people have Inalienable rights? Is there an agnostic reason competing humans have to respect one another?
....bullsh!t....every agnostic i've met understands 'the golden rule' better than most of you murderous, ignorant 'christians'....

....if jesus saves he'd better save his name from the likes of you f@cking @ssholes... word...   ;)   
 
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roadkill » 03 Jul 2022, 2:43 pm » wrote: You did not mention God once!
and that makes me wrong about how the kinetic universe works in real time as each lifetime evolves never outside living in series parallel displacement as conceived to decomposed here?

I defy social consensus created by speculating real isn't real, I don't deny how I arrived, and exist in series parallel displacement now as my body evolves never same details achieved forward in my time here equally adapting in plain sight.
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Neo » 03 Jul 2022, 2:21 pm » wrote: We base our understanding and grant recognition of rights to fellow human beings as persons created in the image of God. Inalienable rights granted by the creator. Without that recognition do people have Inalienable rights? Is there an agnostic reason competing humans have to respect one another?
The reason an atheist, at least from what they habitually give me, is that there are no inalienable rights. We respect one another and create laws to protect each other's life because it creates a more stable and functional society. This is quite weak. It does not take into account the moral or humane aspect. It's based on process with zero principle. With this concept, there can be no such thing as love, hate, or any incentive for peace for the sake of peace itself. 
 
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Neo » 03 Jul 2022, 2:21 pm » wrote: We base our understanding and grant recognition of rights to fellow human beings as persons created in the image of God. Inalienable rights granted by the creator. Without that recognition do people have Inalienable rights? Is there an agnostic reason competing humans have to respect one another?
Even atheists follow the golden rule.  
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[hopefully someday these brain-laundered believers in some magical sky wizard learn to think for themselves]  :loco:  

"I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish Church, by the Roman Church, by the Greek Church, by the Turkish Church, by the Protestant Church, nor by any Church that I know of. My own mind is my own Church." [paine]

"It is necessary to the happiness of man that he be mentally faithful to himself. Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what one does not believe. It is impossible to calculate the moral mischief, if I may so express it, that mental lying has produced in society. When man has so far corrupted and prostituted the chastity of his mind, as to subscribe his professional belief to things he does not believe, he has prepared himself for the commission of every other crime." 
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peepee » 03 Jul 2022, 2:45 pm » wrote: ....bullsh!t....every agnostic i've met understands 'the golden rule' better than most of you murderous, ignorant 'christians'....

....if jesus saves he'd better save his name from the likes of you f@cking @ssholes... word...   Image

"Up With Jesus......and down with the World".

Bumper-sticker on my Chevy 2500 for 10yr.                             
:)  
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ScottMon » 03 Jul 2022, 2:49 pm » wrote: Even atheists follow the golden rule.
:?:  
...'even atheists'?!? ...(((((NONE))))) of these f@cking @sshole republicrats follow the golden rule....word...  ;)  
 
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peepee » 03 Jul 2022, 2:45 pm » wrote: ....bullsh!t....every agnostic i've met understands 'the golden rule' better than most of you murderous, ignorant 'christians'....

....if jesus saves he'd better save his name from the likes of you f@cking @ssholes... word...   Image
Without divinity humanity has little worth, individuals have almost none. 7 billion resource consuming human beings, most of them taking more than they produce. I can see why environmental alarmism has replaced religion for progressives.  
 
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Neo » 03 Jul 2022, 2:21 pm » wrote: We base our understanding and grant recognition of rights to fellow human beings as persons created in the image of God. Inalienable rights granted by the creator. Without that recognition do people have Inalienable rights? Is there an agnostic reason competing humans have to respect one another?
Neo....I have no religious faith but I believe in a SUPER-NATURAL CREATOR.

That being said, I have an innate sense of what is fair...and what is fair are my BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS[/b]
OUR CONSTITUTION is the greatest document that men have ever devised to put these basic human rights into law.
In 1964 something very un-Constitutional happened ....
The CIVIL RIGHTS ACT actually grants "rights" to people who never earned them and it removes my Natural Basic Human Right to not associate with people I do not like.
 
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Taipan » 03 Jul 2022, 2:52 pm » wrote: "Up With Jesus......and down with the World".

Bumper-sticker on my Chevy 2500 for 10yr.                             
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:rolleyes:   :drool:  

...read the bible, you republican-sucking @sshole!! :loco:   ...it was jesus the thoughtful, the peaceful, the forgiving....not jesus the stooooooooopid, the murderous @sshole, the worldwide arms dealer, worldwide bully, thief :twisted:  ...

...jesus showed disgust/contempt for the bank$ter$....you trumptards, etcetercrats, suck bank$ter  :o  c@ck!...word...  ;)  
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I believe all laws prohibiting peaceful "discrimination" are both unenforceable and unconstitutional. Freedom of association naturally grants a freedom FROM association. 
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Taipan » 03 Jul 2022, 2:52 pm » wrote: "Up With Jesus......and down with the World".

Bumper-sticker on my Chevy 2500 for 10yr.                             
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I dont  know TAIPAN.. you got a truck? 
My 2005 Chevy car is a lemon.. due to pick it up wedsday for an exhaust   pipe  and a mufler? 500 in maine? maybe? seems kind of steep to me for this area..
but then again.. i haven't put an exhaust on a car in years???
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peepee » 03 Jul 2022, 2:51 pm » wrote: [hopefully someday these brain-laundered believers in some magical sky wizard learn to think for themselves]  Image  

"I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish Church, by the Roman Church, by the Greek Church, by the Turkish Church, by the Protestant Church, nor by any Church that I know of. My own mind is my own Church." [paine]

"It is necessary to the happiness of man that he be mentally faithful to himself. Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what one does not believe. It is impossible to calculate the moral mischief, if I may so express it, that mental lying has produced in society. When man has so far corrupted and prostituted the chastity of his mind, as to subscribe his professional belief to things he does not believe, he has prepared himself for the commission of every other crime." 

You forgot to mention how stooooooooopid the world is for not knowing where money comes from or how it gets its value.
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