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Do human rights exist without God?
Do human rights exist without God?
By Neo
3 Jul 2022 2:21 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
3 Jul 2022 5:43 pm
omh » 03 Jul 2022, 5:33 pm » wrote: ↑ you lost your sole and cling to a soul society says you have a right to ignore how you exactly exist. So you do until dead.
Not really.
I am my own man.
I walk through......time existing......today.
Have I had over 50 barroom fights? Yes.
Zen.
Am I still alive ?
Zen.
Yes..............God left me alive.
@sooted up Cyndi
https://youtu.be/lvSNaFiwnjI
3 Jul 2022 5:46 pm
omh » 03 Jul 2022, 5:40 pm » wrote: ↑ Your reality has been imploded and only thing keeping it valid are the faithful never changing their socially conditioned brain after birth to obey social consensus or else.
It could also be that I can Plant an Avocado Seed and in 5 years If I fertilize the land with Blood of Trespasser, I can have a Tree Ripened Avocado.
3 Jul 2022 5:54 pm
Nice.Holdor » 03 Jul 2022, 5:39 pm » wrote: ↑ She is Pretty good,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRAdR9ryTbk
She is pretty good.
I like her wild spirit.
Now,
let me throw an option on the table.
https://youtu.be/lvSNaFiwnjI
3 Jul 2022 5:57 pm
Holdor » 03 Jul 2022, 5:39 pm » wrote: ↑ She is Pretty good,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRAdR9ryTbk
OK.
I am drinking.
Here is the right video.
https://youtu.be/ZInRE-KryGA
3 Jul 2022 6:00 pm
Taipan » 03 Jul 2022, 5:57 pm » wrote: ↑ OK.
I am drinking.
Here is the right video.
https://youtu.be/ZInRE-KryGA
I like her and that song, Do not hate me, I was Republican before it went so far right.
3 Jul 2022 6:03 pm
3 Jul 2022 6:04 pm
Holdor » 03 Jul 2022, 6:00 pm » wrote: ↑ I like her and that song, Do not hate me, I was Republican before it went so far right.
Sir,
We want you on our team.
We can work things out.
3 Jul 2022 6:05 pm
3 Jul 2022 6:07 pm
The author of Genesis, whoever he was, claims that God made Man in his image. However, on the few rare occasions in which God appears to someone in the Bible, his human features are never mentioned. In his most famous appearance to Moses, he appears as burning shrubbery. On rare occasions, we do have divine appearances, but God the Father is never one of them. The most usual divine appearances in order of frequency are God's main and only squeeze, the Virgin Mary, followed by Jesus and the angels, Gabriel and Michael.
King George III, like all British monarchs, claimed that he was King of the British Empire by the Grace of God, and hd is stamped on the money in what he considered God's favorite language, Latin Dei Gratia Rex. Nowadays this is abbreviated to DGR for Dei Gratia Regina, because the monarch is a queen.
We also insist on mentioning God by stamping In God We Trust on our money, and for some weird reason, insist on mentioning that God Is Up There in the Pledge of Allegiance, which we even more weirdly insist on reciting at athletic events and even stock car races with the words Under God.
As if we could assure that God is about bu mentioning him.
God either does not like to visit Earth, or only does so when he chooses to be invisible, mute, intangible, odorless and without taste. He values imperceptability, which some claim is necessary so that we can have free will.
King George III, like all British monarchs, claimed that he was King of the British Empire by the Grace of God, and hd is stamped on the money in what he considered God's favorite language, Latin Dei Gratia Rex. Nowadays this is abbreviated to DGR for Dei Gratia Regina, because the monarch is a queen.
We also insist on mentioning God by stamping In God We Trust on our money, and for some weird reason, insist on mentioning that God Is Up There in the Pledge of Allegiance, which we even more weirdly insist on reciting at athletic events and even stock car races with the words Under God.
As if we could assure that God is about bu mentioning him.
God either does not like to visit Earth, or only does so when he chooses to be invisible, mute, intangible, odorless and without taste. He values imperceptability, which some claim is necessary so that we can have free will.
3 Jul 2022 6:13 pm
GHETTOBLASTER » 03 Jul 2022, 4:33 pm » wrote: ↑ I am saying that our Founding Fathers did not need any "insider knowledge" of what God said to know what our Basic Humsan Rights are.
And the Declaration they created ascribes the origin of those rights to the Creator, making His existence a fact of American jurisprudence.
When you complain, your friends roll their eyes and your enemies smile
"Because I SAY I am" is fallacy, not science
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not your friend
An opinion you won't defend is not yours. It's someone else's
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is fallacy, not science
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not your friend
An opinion you won't defend is not yours. It's someone else's
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
3 Jul 2022 6:14 pm
Well the Local Bar, half of them want to kill ME, and Half of them say Whatever.
I have not gone into a BAR and started Killing People
New Repupulican chant Attack a Bar not a School
3 Jul 2022 6:14 pm
Blood sacrifice is not required for avocados to grow. If you want a tree ripened avocado, you must refrain from plucking it before it is ripe, and you must also defend it from birds, bugs and small creatures that also enjoy eating avocados.Holdor » 03 Jul 2022, 5:46 pm » wrote: ↑ It could also be that I can Plant an Avocado Seed and in 5 years If I fertilize the land with Blood of Trespasser, I can have a Tree Ripened Avocado.
By the way, the original English word for avocado was alligator pear. But that sounded unappetizing, so the California Alligator Pear Association chose the name AVOCADO. In Mexico, the word is aguacate, which English speakers thought should rhyme with wawabait. Aguacates have a bumpy greenish skin, like what we call Hess Avocados. The larger black and green smooth skin fruit are known as Pahuas (PAH waz).
3 Jul 2022 6:15 pm
That's what I just said, twerp.Xavier_Onassis » 03 Jul 2022, 5:37 pm » wrote: ↑Correction: the Founding Fathers, at least some of them, decided that God granted rights.Cannonpointer » 03 Jul 2022, 4:27 pm » wrote: ↑That is a philosophical dilemma. There is no legal dilemma. Under American law, rights come from God.
Correction: repeating my thesis doesn't correct it.
When you complain, your friends roll their eyes and your enemies smile
"Because I SAY I am" is fallacy, not science
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not your friend
An opinion you won't defend is not yours. It's someone else's
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is fallacy, not science
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not your friend
An opinion you won't defend is not yours. It's someone else's
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
3 Jul 2022 6:18 pm
I do not think that American jurisprudence can cause an omnipotent deity to come into being.Cannonpointer » 03 Jul 2022, 6:13 pm » wrote: ↑ And the Declaration they created ascribes the origin of those rights to the Creator, making His existence a fact of American jurisprudence.
There either is a God, or there is not, and we merely think there is one. It is convenient for the public to believe in a Higher Being that will strike them dead if they lie.
3 Jul 2022 6:19 pm
Xavier_Onassis » 03 Jul 2022, 6:14 pm » wrote: ↑ Blood sacrifice is not required for avocados to grow. If you want a tree ripened avocado, you must refrain from plucking it before it is ripe, and you must also defend it from birds, bugs and small creatures that also enjoy eating avocados.
By the way, the original English word for avocado was alligator pear. But that sounded unappetizing, so the California Alligator Pear Association chose the name AVOCADO. In Mexico, the word is aguacate, which English speakers thought should rhyme with wawabait. Aguacates have a bumpy greenish skin, like what we call Hess Avocados. The larger black and green smooth skin fruit are known as Pahuas (PAH waz).
For 40 cents I Had Avocados Fully ripe In Mexico.
3 Jul 2022 6:21 pm
Did someone say it did, pookie?Xavier_Onassis » 03 Jul 2022, 6:18 pm » wrote: ↑ I do not think that American jurisprudence can cause an omnipotent deity to come into being.
You are no better at making distinctions in literature than you re in biology, fruitcake.
That is a dilemma in the realm of philosophy, not law, Petunia.Xavier_Onassis » 03 Jul 2022, 6:18 pm » wrote: ↑There either is a God, or there is not we merely think there is one. It is convenient for the public to believe in a Higher Being that will strike them dead if they lie.
In American jurisprudence, the existence of a Creator is a given.
When you complain, your friends roll their eyes and your enemies smile
"Because I SAY I am" is fallacy, not science
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not your friend
An opinion you won't defend is not yours. It's someone else's
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is fallacy, not science
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not your friend
An opinion you won't defend is not yours. It's someone else's
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
3 Jul 2022 6:23 pm
Xavier_Onassis » 03 Jul 2022, 6:07 pm » wrote: ↑ The author of Genesis, whoever he was, claims that God made Man in his image. However, on the few rare occasions in which God appears to someone in the Bible, his human features are never mentioned. In his most famous appearance to Moses, he appears as burning shrubbery. On rare occasions, we do have divine appearances, but God the Father is never one of them. The most usual divine appearances in order of frequency are God's main and only squeeze, the Virgin Mary, followed by Jesus and the angels, Gabriel and Michael.
King George III, like all British monarchs, claimed that he was King of the British Empire by the Grace of God, and hd is stamped on the money in what he considered God's favorite language, Latin Dei Gratia Rex. Nowadays this is abbreviated to DGR for Dei Gratia Regina, because the monarch is a queen.
We also insist on mentioning God by stamping In God We Trust on our money, and for some weird reason, insist on mentioning that God Is Up There in the Pledge of Allegiance, which we even more weirdly insist on reciting at athletic events and even stock car races with the words Under God.
As if we could assure that God is about bu mentioning him.
God either does not like to visit Earth, or only does so when he chooses to be invisible, mute, intangible, odorless and without taste. He values imperceptability, which some claim is necessary so that we can have free will.
I haven't read through this entire thread but I did read this post which is articulate and possibly true to a certain extent. But I respect all who don't have any faith or who follow a faith different than mine. I'm not arrogant enough to proclaim that I am right and whoever doesn't believe as I do will burn in hell for all eternity. All I know is that as a Catholic I obey the sacraments and I let the rest take care of itself. Amen.
3 Jul 2022 6:26 pm
Cannonpointer » 03 Jul 2022, 3:16 pm » wrote: ↑ I brought this up when citizens united gave ersatz human rights to corporations. My argument was that rights come from God, and that a discrete number of rights exist on the earth at any given moment. That number can be expressed in a simple equation:
The number of rights God grants human beings, times the number of human beings.
That^, my argument reasoned, is the number of rights on the planet at any moment in time. The only way to give corporations rights, therefore, is to first take those rights from humans.
I stand by that argument. Most of the board's rat wingers argued against me. Not gonna name any names, because I don't know @Huey's name. The arguments he made against me were just EMBARRASING. Lucky for him, they are gone with the wind.
Clem, of course, likewise pandered for wall street.
Rights must be finite, since it takes energy and focus to provide and protect them. If everyone is hellbent on defending the rights of corporations, human rights will decrease sharply
3 Jul 2022 6:31 pm
Cannonpointer » 03 Jul 2022, 6:21 pm » wrote: ↑ Did someone say it did, pookie?
You are no better at making distinctions in literature than you re in biology, fruitcake.
That is a dilemma in the realm of philosophy, not law, Petunia.
In American jurisprudence, the existence of a Creator is a given.
every state constitution mandates that to run for governor, one must declare his belief in God.
They don't say which god
3 Jul 2022 6:38 pm
Are you sure of that? I find that unlikely.SJConspirator » 03 Jul 2022, 6:31 pm » wrote: ↑ every state constitution mandates that to run for governor, one must declare his belief in God.
They don't say which god
But I am far too lazy to pore through 50 state Constitutions. Are you?\
I thought so.
This sounds like something you heard in a sermon.
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