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The APA , and other professional organizations, have concluded that gender and biology (or the sex) are different concepts. 

Ok, true. But different concepts do not negate connections. Concepts is something that we use to define and categorize nature to make sense of things. However, biology is a science that is fixed. It is possible to separate the concepts of sex and gender. However, it is impossible to disconnect the two. Gender is tied to sex. 

For instance, we cannot call a fetus a person. That's why I always use the term human life, instead of person. Personhood is a definition we give to an individual. Therefore, it is possible to separate the concepts of person with fetus. However, can you disconnect person while neglecting the term human life? No. It's impossible. You can have human life while neglecting he term person, but you cannot use personhood while neglecting the term human life. 

It is the same with sex and gender. Just as person is tied with human life, gender is tied with sex. It's possible to have two different concepts that are still tied together. 

@Blackvegetable  that's how it's done. You see how I used thoughts of my own. I didn't copy/paste Google, then turn around and ask 600 questions to everyone else like a coward. Coward.  Now die. 
 

Vegas » 12 Jul 2022, 11:50 am » wrote: ↑

12 Jul 2022, 11:50 am

The APA and, other professional organizations, have concluded that gender and biology (or the sex) are different concepts. 

Ok, true. But different concepts do not negate connections. Concepts is something that we use to define and categorize nature to make sense of things. However, biology is a science that is fixed. It is possible to separate the concepts of sex and gender. However, it is impossible to disconnect the two. Gender is tied to sex. 

For instance, we cannot call a fetus a person. That's why I always use the term human life, instead of person. Personhood is a definition we give to an individual. Therefore, it is possible to separate the concepts of person with fetus. However, can you disconnect person while neglecting the term human life? No. It's impossible. You can have human life while neglecting he term person, but you cannot use personhood while neglecting the term human life. 

It is the same with sex and gender. Just as person is tied with human life, gender is tied with sex. It's possible to have two different concepts that are still tied together. 


@Blackvegetable  that's how it's done. You see how I used thoughts of my own. I didn't copy/paste Google, then turn around and ask 600 questions to everyone else like a coward. Coward.  Now die. 

why bring psychological into this? stick to instinctive and intellectual process in the brain. the word mind is simply obedience to power of suggestion a brain is willing to go before instincts pull each individual back from fantasizing life is more than just evolving here as one of a kind.

Did I pass? rhetorical question. You are protecting reality, of course I failed.

white trash » 12 Jul 2022, 12:30 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Jul 2022, 12:30 pm

No such thing as "gender." lmao

Ok sexual polarity of a half life reproduction. Opposites reproduce, same polarities don't. Natural sterilization of fertile lifetimes.

Vegas » 12 Jul 2022, 11:50 am » wrote: ↑

12 Jul 2022, 11:50 am

The APA and, other professional organizations, have concluded that gender and biology (or the sex) are different concepts. 

Ok, true. But different concepts do not negate connections. Concepts is something that we use to define and categorize nature to make sense of things. However, biology is a science that is fixed. It is possible to separate the concepts of sex and gender. However, it is impossible to disconnect the two. Gender is tied to sex. 

For instance, we cannot call a fetus a person. That's why I always use the term human life, instead of person. Personhood is a definition we give to an individual. Therefore, it is possible to separate the concepts of person with fetus. However, can you disconnect person while neglecting the term human life? No. It's impossible. You can have human life while neglecting he term person, but you cannot use personhood while neglecting the term human life. 

It is the same with sex and gender. Just as person is tied with human life, gender is tied with sex. It's possible to have two different concepts that are still tied together. 

@Blackvegetable  that's how it's done. You see how I used thoughts of my own. I didn't copy/paste Google, then turn around and ask 600 questions to everyone else like a coward. Coward.  Now die.

Challenge me to demonstrate that it is illiterate gibberish. 

whitetrash » 12 Jul 2022, 12:30 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Jul 2022, 12:30 pm

No such thing as "gender." lmao

can you define a man? what is a man these days?  

Blackvegetable » 12 Jul 2022, 12:40 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Jul 2022, 12:40 pm

Challenge me to demonstrate that it is illiterate gibberish. 

It is misdirection, not gibberish. Same way you communicate.

Blackvegetable » 12 Jul 2022, 12:40 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Jul 2022, 12:40 pm

Challenge me to demonstrate that it is illiterate gibberish.

Why would I need to challenge you, just do it. Just refute it. Nobody else needs an invitation.

You can't even volunteer yourself to debate without hiding behind a demand. 

Biggest coward known to mankind. 

Watch everyone: He will still wont refute it, he will still make a demand that I challenge him to refute it. Pathetic scum.

Vegas » 12 Jul 2022, 11:50 am » wrote: ↑

12 Jul 2022, 11:50 am

The APA and, other professional organizations, have concluded that gender and biology (or the sex) are different concepts. 

Ok, true. But different concepts do not negate connections. Concepts is something that we use to define and categorize nature to make sense of things. However, biology is a science that is fixed. It is possible to separate the concepts of sex and gender. However, it is impossible to disconnect the two. Gender is tied to sex. 

For instance, we cannot call a fetus a person. That's why I always use the term human life, instead of person. Personhood is a definition we give to an individual. Therefore, it is possible to separate the concepts of person with fetus. However, can you disconnect person while neglecting the term human life? No. It's impossible. You can have human life while neglecting he term person, but you cannot use personhood while neglecting the term human life. 

It is the same with sex and gender. Just as person is tied with human life, gender is tied with sex. It's possible to have two different concepts that are still tied together. 

@Blackvegetable  that's how it's done. You see how I used thoughts of my own. I didn't copy/paste Google, then turn around and ask 600 questions to everyone else like a coward. Coward.  Now die.

 

The APA and, other professional organizations, have

perhaps this syntactical holocaust SHOULD read

The APA, and other professional organisations, has

concluded that gender and biology (or the sex) are different concepts.

This is fresh of the feta boat incomprehensible. 

Gender and biology ARE "different concepts". Not because APA says so. One is a category the other a science.

(or the sex)

Coke....no Pepsi..

Ok, true. But different concepts do not negate connections.

Sure...in the sense that a microwave steamer is a tool and broccoli is a vegetable. 

Concepts is something

To begin with "Concepts" is plural.

However, biology is a science that is fixed. It is possible to separate the concepts of sex and gender

 But it's "fixedness", though true in an absolute sense, is a matter of what we are able to observe. And that changes with advances in technology.

Gender is tied to sex

In a meaninglessly obvious way, yes.
 
Must I continue?

Blackvegetable » 12 Jul 2022, 2:01 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Jul 2022, 2:01 pm

To begin with "Concepts" is plural.

 But it's "fixedness", though true in an absolute sense, is a matter of what we are able to observe. And that changes with advances in technology.

In a meaninglessly obvious way, yes.
 
Must I continue?

Look at this bucket of vomit. 

most of this refutes even one point. This is the only thing ^^^ that came close. But to no avail. Fetus observations change with technology? LOL!        Brillinat. 

And yes, you must continue because you haven't refuted ****. Now try again.  

Vegas » 12 Jul 2022, 11:50 am » wrote: ↑

12 Jul 2022, 11:50 am

The APA and, other professional organizations, have concluded that gender and biology (or the sex) are different concepts. 

Ok, true. But different concepts do not negate connections. Concepts is something that we use to define and categorize nature to make sense of things. However, biology is a science that is fixed. It is possible to separate the concepts of sex and gender. However, it is impossible to disconnect the two. Gender is tied to sex. 

For instance, we cannot call a fetus a person. That's why I always use the term human life, instead of person. Personhood is a definition we give to an individual. Therefore, it is possible to separate the concepts of person with fetus. However, can you disconnect person while neglecting the term human life? No. It's impossible. You can have human life while neglecting he term person, but you cannot use personhood while neglecting the term human life. 

It is the same with sex and gender. Just as person is tied with human life, gender is tied with sex. It's possible to have two different concepts that are still tied together. 

@Blackvegetable  that's how it's done. You see how I used thoughts of my own. I didn't copy/paste Google, then turn around and ask 600 questions to everyone else like a coward. Coward.  Now die.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2C_seOSdrE
 

Vegas » 12 Jul 2022, 2:17 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Jul 2022, 2:17 pm

Look at this bucket of vomit. 

most of this refutes even one point. This is the only thing ^^^ that came close. But to no avail. Fetus observations change with technology? LOL!        Brillinat. 

And yes, you must continue because you haven't refuted ****. Now try again.

To this point you have been meandering, inarticulately.

Because you recognize that you've spent this time going nowhere, you finish by asserting 

Gender is tied to sex. 

Utterly meaningless.

But clearly you had something more ambitious in mind, and proceed.

For instance, we cannot call a fetus a person. That's why I always use the term human life, instead of person

I have a sneaking suspicion that this will turn out to be convenient.

Personhood is a definition we give to an individual. Therefore, it is possible to separate the concepts of person with fetus.

But wait..

However, can you disconnect person while neglecting the term human life? No. It's impossible

What if people reject your redefinition? Your problem is of your own making.

sootedupCyndi » 12 Jul 2022, 12:40 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Jul 2022, 12:40 pm

can you define a man? what is a man these days?

I would be glad to show you what a man is:

NOT THIS


THIS



 

Skans » 12 Jul 2022, 3:03 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Jul 2022, 3:03 pm

I would be glad to show you what a man is:

NOT THIS


THIS

 


 

Skans » 12 Jul 2022, 3:03 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Jul 2022, 3:03 pm

I would be glad to show you what a man is:

NOT THIS


THIS

thats sweet but you're married.. ha ha
and imagine us in the house having a debate dear. We would kill each other.. unless you let me win. lol

Blackvegetable » 12 Jul 2022, 12:40 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Jul 2022, 12:40 pm

Challenge me to demonstrate that it is illiterate gibberish.

No pleading for invitations, dick sucker. Man the **** up and get to work.

Blackvegetable » 12 Jul 2022, 2:01 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Jul 2022, 2:01 pm

perhaps this syntactical holocaust SHOULD read

The APA, and other professional organisations, has

You cannot even correct grammar properly, fruitcake.

The APA and other professional organisations have - no commas.

Blackvegetable » 12 Jul 2022, 2:01 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Jul 2022, 2:01 pm

Must I continue?

No questions, dick sucker.

Blackvegetable » 12 Jul 2022, 2:41 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Jul 2022, 2:41 pm

But wait..

What if people reject your redefinition? 

No questions, dick sucker.

Cannonpointer » 12 Jul 2022, 3:25 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Jul 2022, 3:25 pm

No pleading for invitations, dick sucker. Man the **** up and get to work.

 Shut the **** up.

Cannonpointer » 12 Jul 2022, 3:27 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Jul 2022, 3:27 pm

You cannot even correct grammar properly, fruitcake.

The APA and other professional organisations have - no commas.

No questions, dick sucker.

The commas are acceptable, but the verb would be singular.

sootedupCyndi » 12 Jul 2022, 3:16 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Jul 2022, 3:16 pm

thats sweet but you're married.. ha ha
and imagine us in the house having a debate dear. We would kill each other.. unless you let me win. lol

Yes I am, and I do my best to be a good husband. 

Which is worse: being married to a husband who is a slob, leaves dirty dishes on the counter and forgets to take his muddy shoes off before coming inside?  Or, a husband who is fastidiously clean, and prepares for every debate complete with photos, videos and secret recordings?