Gender is a LINGUISTIC term at the very least. All nouns are masculine feminine or neuter.
What do you mean by "tied to"?Vegas » 12 Jul 2022, 4:46 pm » wrote: ↑ It doesn't matter how you define the spectrum. Choose any definition you wish, any. Go ahead.
Got one? Good. Now, demonstrate that definition while neglecting mentioning man or woman in the context of sex.
And go....
Neo » 12 Jul 2022, 4:52 pm » wrote: ↑ Gender and sex are interchangeable and biologically based. Social gender roles and dress are not biologically based.
Xavier_Onassis » 12 Jul 2022, 4:47 pm » wrote: ↑ Gender is a LINGUISTIC term at the very least. All nouns are masculine feminine or neuter.
Neo » 12 Jul 2022, 4:52 pm » wrote: ↑ Gender and sex are interchangeable and biologically based. Social gender roles and dress are not biologically based.
Define your vague terms, coward.Vegas » 12 Jul 2022, 4:52 pm » wrote: ↑ See my last response to this same question, moron. Are you being serious or are just stalling again?
I take it you wont answer the question. Darth Evader strikes again.
Why don't you figure that out and get back to us?Vegas » 12 Jul 2022, 4:53 pm » wrote: ↑ Ahhhhhh...we are getting somewhere. Where does masculine and feminine come from? Gender or sex?
Clearly you can't.
It's the difference between biology , a hard science, and culture. Culture defines what gender norms are, such as a man holds a door open for a lady.Vegas » 12 Jul 2022, 11:50 am » wrote: ↑ The APA and, other professional organizations, have concluded that gender and biology (or the sex) are different concepts.
Ok, true. But different concepts do not negate connections. Concepts is something that we use to define and categorize nature to make sense of things. However, biology is a science that is fixed. It is possible to separate the concepts of sex and gender. However, it is impossible to disconnect the two. Gender is tied to sex.
For instance, we cannot call a fetus a person. That's why I always use the term human life, instead of person. Personhood is a definition we give to an individual. Therefore, it is possible to separate the concepts of person with fetus. However, can you disconnect person while neglecting the term human life? No. It's impossible. You can have human life while neglecting he term person, but you cannot use personhood while neglecting the term human life.
It is the same with sex and gender. Just as person is tied with human life, gender is tied with sex. It's possible to have two different concepts that are still tied together.
@Blackvegetable that's how it's done. You see how I used thoughts of my own. I didn't copy/paste Google, then turn around and ask 600 questions to everyone else like a coward. Coward. Now die.
SJConspirator » 12 Jul 2022, 5:03 pm » wrote: ↑ It's the difference between biology , a hard science, and culture. Culture defines what gender norms are, such as a man holds a door open for a lady.
Sex is defined by biology
male covers evolving birth to dead same as female. boy, girl, man, woman are stages of development cradle to grave and add 1 mom, 1 dad, 2 grandmas, 2 grandpa, 4 great grandmas, 4 great grandpas, you get the drift.Xavier_Onassis » 12 Jul 2022, 4:47 pm » wrote: ↑ Gender is a LINGUISTIC term at the very least. All nouns are masculine feminine or neuter.
I went through it, in detail.Vegas » 12 Jul 2022, 3:59 pm » wrote: ↑ Yeah, I didn't think you had anything. It's always the same exact rebuttal with you...every single time: "assertion." That's it. That is your go-to rebuttal for everything.
1. Continue to project as usual.
I mean...I don't even respect these people enough to argue with them.Vegas » 12 Jul 2022, 11:50 am » wrote: ↑ The APA and, other professional organizations, have concluded that gender and biology (or the sex) are different concepts.
Ok, true. But different concepts do not negate connections. Concepts is something that we use to define and categorize nature to make sense of things. However, biology is a science that is fixed. It is possible to separate the concepts of sex and gender. However, it is impossible to disconnect the two. Gender is tied to sex.
For instance, we cannot call a fetus a person. That's why I always use the term human life, instead of person. Personhood is a definition we give to an individual. Therefore, it is possible to separate the concepts of person with fetus. However, can you disconnect person while neglecting the term human life? No. It's impossible. You can have human life while neglecting he term person, but you cannot use personhood while neglecting the term human life.
It is the same with sex and gender. Just as person is tied with human life, gender is tied with sex. It's possible to have two different concepts that are still tied together.
@Blackvegetable that's how it's done. You see how I used thoughts of my own. I didn't copy/paste Google, then turn around and ask 600 questions to everyone else like a coward. Coward. Now die.
late Middle English: from Old French gendre (modern genre ), based on Latin genus ‘birth, family, nation’. The earliest meanings were ‘kind, sort, genus’ and ‘type or class of noun, etc.’ (which was also a sense of Latin genus )Vegas » 12 Jul 2022, 5:03 pm » wrote: ↑ Clearly you can't.
Take any definition of gender you wish, any definition. I couldn't care less, just choose one. Got one? Good. Now, give that definition without referring to a man or a woman in the context of sex.
@Blackvegetablelate Middle English: from Old French gendre (modern genre ), based on Latin genus ‘birth, family, nation’. The earliest meanings were ‘kind, sort, genus’ and ‘type or class of noun, etc.’ (which was also a sense of Latin genus )
You're operating under the mindset of a lay person. You're not a doctor, your not a mental health professional. You're not even a social scientist or sociologist. What you know, or think you know, is all from the **** you read on the internet. Congratulations you're an internet educated ignoramus.Vegas » 12 Jul 2022, 4:04 pm » wrote: ↑ Explain how it could even be remotely possible to define gender (regardless of your lame definitions) without bringing up sex.
Now.