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Xavier_Onassis » 14 Jul 2022, 8:30 am » wrote: ↑

14 Jul 2022, 8:30 am

You dumb ****, the cartels have NEVER lacked guns, and they buy them all in the USA. thanks to your **** Second Amendment.

not our second amendment? oops another Freudian slip of the vernacular.

Xavier_Onassis » 14 Jul 2022, 8:55 am » wrote: ↑

14 Jul 2022, 8:55 am

 

"The common man does not murder dozens of children in their classrooms, or when they are watching parades."

That's correct...those people are either criminals who don't care about any gun laws or the mentally ill.

Many of these had red flag warnings that are often not heeded by law enforcement...like Illinois.

Florida does it right so says a democrat.  He said other states should do what Florida does.  But they don't.

Now you tell us X...what would you do?
 
 

roadkill » 13 Jul 2022, 3:59 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Jul 2022, 3:59 pm

And you immediately kill millions of people with illegal fentanyl.

"Pharmaceutical fentanyl is a synthetic opioid, approved for treating severe pain, typically advanced cancer pain. It is 50 to 100 times more potent than morphine. It is prescribed in the form of transdermal patches or lozenges and can be diverted for misuse and abuse in the United States."

...if it's legal it will be accurately measured and sellers will/can be held responsible for the quality of the product....see alcohol prohibition, you stoooooooooooooopid trump c@ck   sucker...    
 

peepee » 14 Jul 2022, 9:36 am » wrote: ↑

14 Jul 2022, 9:36 am

...if it's legal it will be accurately measured and sellers will/can be held responsible for the quality of the product....see alcohol prohibition, you stoooooooooooooopid trump c@ck   sucker... 

OK poopoo.

Holdor » 13 Jul 2022, 4:29 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Jul 2022, 4:29 pm

I get my Drugs Over the counter, Or from a Prescribed User who got it over the the Pham Counter.

...it's useless talking to these big-government-sucking, prohibitionist, trump c@ck  suckers...

...they claim 'rights' over the bodies, etc., of others...twisted,    stoooooooooooooooooopid f@cks!!... word...    


 

roadkill » 14 Jul 2022, 9:38 am » wrote: ↑

14 Jul 2022, 9:38 am

OK poopoo.

...do some reading/thinking for once, you f@cking fool...   

 https://prohibition.themobmuseum.org/th ... nd-poison/

"The intent of Prohibition was to deter the consumption of alcohol, which was seen as unhealthful and a public nuisance. Not only would that prove nearly impossible to achieve, but the government’s zeal to block the consumption of industrial alcohol would lead to the unintentional but disastrous poisoning, paralysis and deaths of thousands of drinkers at the hands of bootleggers. And in 1930, a pair of men in Boston would concoct an illegal and toxic alcoholic beverage, “Ginger Jake,” that was responsible for crippling up to 100,000 people across America...."
 

JinnMartini » 14 Jul 2022, 4:14 am » wrote: ↑

14 Jul 2022, 4:14 am

That must be the dumbest **** I've read in a long time !

You may just as well legalize human traficking,
That would dry up a big chunk of their income.
The price per traficked person would plummet to below cost !
They'd have to bring in trainloads of sex slaves, labor slaves and organs  "donors", to make a few dollars profit for all those involved !
Hell, it would be more profitable for them to go flip hamburgers !

And legalize murder too, of course !
Who would pay to put out a contract on someone, when you can do it yourself for free ?

I could go on  . . . 

Oh boy  . . .  you liberals must be the dumbest creatures on the planet !

 
...apparently this ^^^ trump c@cksucker equates personal drug usage, self-medication, etc. with sex slavery, murder, etc...       

...let's fill the private prison$!! ...let's 'drug war harder' say the trump c@ck  suckers [and monetary ignoramuses]    
 

JinnMartini » 14 Jul 2022, 4:14 am » wrote: ↑

14 Jul 2022, 4:14 am

That must be the dumbest **** I've read in a long time !

You may just as well legalize human traficking,
That would dry up a big chunk of their income.
The price per traficked person would plummet to below cost !
They'd have to bring in trainloads of sex slaves, labor slaves and organs  "donors", to make a few dollars profit for all those involved !
Hell, it would be more profitable for them to go flip hamburgers !

And legalize murder too, of course !
Who would pay to put out a contract on someone, when you can do it yourself for free ?

I could go on  . . . 

Oh boy  . . .  you liberals must be the dumbest creatures on the planet !

You and I disgree on this. Drugs are far too dangerous and socially disruptive to leave their regulation to criminal cartels. Just look round - it isn't serving society.

Did you know that nuclear devices, anthrax, full-auto machine guns and grenade launchers (as well as the grenades they launch), heat seeking missiles and bunker-buster, multi-megaaton bombs all have at least one thing in common?

Yes, they are all legal - perfectly legal. And highly regulated. 

Ending prohibition does not necessarily mean letting 7-11's sell crack. We could require licenses to use certain drugs - each drug made available under conditions of rigor suited to how dangerous it is to society and the user. We could require buyers to sign usage itineraries, legally attesting where and with whom and under what conditions the purchased drugs will be used. We could create districts wherein usage is allowed, exempting straight society from even SEEING the ****.

Before prohibition, the top one or two percent and the bottom one or two percent dabbled in narcotics. There were no pushers. People knew not to **** with the powders. Where would you put the percentage DURING prohibition? 

Before prohibition, we saw mass addiction coming out of the civil war. It ended in a matter of a few years, left to the individual. There being no pusher to create a culture around getting high, addicts were seen as sick, and they kicked. There was no mystery - just an acceptable level of misery for the addict, to get his life and reputation back. Those who chose to remain addicts were able to function in society, because there was no crime-exponent built into the price of a fix. 

The government has a regulatory interest in drugs - which it derives the same place it gets ALL just powers - from you. It has no prohibition interest, because it is well and truly not your place to tell me I can never try heroin - only to tell me not to drive near your family, not to offer it to your kids, not to pilot a plane if I'm a junky. These are regulatory interests.

The Constitution is not a suicide pact - and legalizing, taxing and regulating narcotics is not a suicide. Indeed, prohibition is. 

We tried it in the thirties. It didn't work out that great, the first time around. On a scale of one to ten, how would YOU say prohibition is serving our nation?

JinnMartini » 14 Jul 2022, 4:22 am » wrote: ↑

14 Jul 2022, 4:22 am

Okay, you do have a point  . . .  as far as current addicts go.

What about kids in schools who are too young to have any idea what they're getting involved in ?
Your children  . . .  or grandchildren ?

Do WHATEVER IS NECESSARY to keep pushers away from them - even if it means leglizing and regulating for adults. 

Do not pull the blanket of innocence off children who need it, to force it on adults who do not want it. 

roadkill » 14 Jul 2022, 8:59 am » wrote: ↑

14 Jul 2022, 8:59 am

"The common man does not murder dozens of children in their classrooms, or when they are watching parades."

That's correct...those people are either criminals who don't care about any gun laws or the mentally ill.

Many of these had red flag warnings that are often not heeded by law enforcement...like Illinois.

Florida does it right so says a democrat.  He said other states should do what Florida does.  But they don't.

Now you tell us X...what would you do?

The Red Flag Laws will only work when the police knows (a) who the unstable potential shooters are and where they are, and (b) whether they own firearms.  So UNIVERSAL GUN REGISTRATION is essential.
I don't think anyone wants to see classrooms shot up, but I don't think FL is doing enough.

Xavier_Onassis » 14 Jul 2022, 10:08 am » wrote: ↑

14 Jul 2022, 10:08 am

The Red Flag Laws will only work when the police knows (a) who the unstable potential shooters are and where they are, and (b) whether they own firearms.  So UNIVERSAL GUN REGISTRATION is essential.
I don't think anyone wants to see classrooms shot up, but I don't think FL is doing enough.

Often times they do know who triggers a red flag law and they do little or nothing.

 

peepee » 14 Jul 2022, 9:46 am » wrote: ↑

14 Jul 2022, 9:46 am

...do some reading/thinking for once, you f@cking fool...   

 https://prohibition.themobmuseum.org/th ... nd-poison/

"The intent of Prohibition was to deter the consumption of alcohol, which was seen as unhealthful and a public nuisance. Not only would that prove nearly impossible to achieve, but the government’s zeal to block the consumption of industrial alcohol would lead to the unintentional but disastrous poisoning, paralysis and deaths of thousands of drinkers at the hands of bootleggers. And in 1930, a pair of men in Boston would concoct an illegal and toxic alcoholic beverage, “Ginger Jake,” that was responsible for crippling up to 100,000 people across America...."

I'm not saying we can't do something about it, but there will always be the black market.

And our CIA, FBI, etc. might not like their loss of revenues from the drug trade.

Xavier_Onassis » 14 Jul 2022, 8:30 am » wrote: ↑

14 Jul 2022, 8:30 am

You dumb ****, the cartels have NEVER lacked guns, and they buy them all in the USA. thanks to your **** Second Amendment.

Actually if you want to make Money you run Ammo to Mexico, they have lots of guns but lack ammo, and will trade you Black Tar Heroin for Ammo, this you bring back to THe USA and have Black gangs sell it for you, Poof you are a Rich White Republican.



You can also trade Ammo for 92% pure Cocain, But the Heroin is worth more per pound.

Holdor » 14 Jul 2022, 1:44 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Jul 2022, 1:44 pm

Actually if you want to make Money you run Ammo to Mexico, they have lots of guns but lack ammo, and will trade you Black Tar Heroin for Ammo, this you bring back to THe USA and have Black gangs sell it for you, Poof you are a Rich White Republican.

You can also trade Ammo for 92% pure Cocain, But the Heroin is worth more per pound.

...it's all good for the trumptarded/republican economy....more employment for government drug pig$, prison corporation$... ...more good-paying job$ for lawyer$, judge$, jailer$, drug counselor$...more job$ for people who repair houses that have been trashed by addicts who must break-in and steal in order to pay for the greatly increased cost of 'drugs'  caused by you prohibitionist @ssholes...[and monetary ignoramuses]          
 

peepee » 14 Jul 2022, 5:48 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Jul 2022, 5:48 pm

...it's all good for the trumptarded/republican economy....more employment for government drug pig$, prison corporation$... ...more good-paying job$ for lawyer$, judge$, jailer$, drug counselor$...more job$ for people who repair houses that have been trashed by addicts who must break-in and steal in order to pay for the greatly increased cost of 'drugs'  caused by you prohibitionist @ssholes...[and monetary ignoramuses]   

Very few people Respond when I say run AMMO to Mexico, I Did it they Buy It.

18,000 Rounds in my trunk going into Mexico, 2 Pounds Black Tar Heroin coming back in

I am a Rich White Republican.


I did it a few times.

I tell you what, they need AMMO, not guns, in Mexico it HARD to get AMMO.

Like I said the easiest way to Defund the Cartels is to make the Drugs they make money on Legal.

Holdor » 14 Jul 2022, 5:52 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Jul 2022, 5:52 pm

peepee » 14 Jul 2022, 5:48 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Jul 2022, 5:48 pm

...it's all good for the trumptarded/republican economy....more employment for government drug pig$, prison corporation$... ...more good-paying job$ for lawyer$, judge$, jailer$, drug counselor$...more job$ for people who repair houses that have been trashed by addicts who must break-in and steal in order to pay for the greatly increased cost of 'drugs'  caused by you prohibitionist @ssholes...[and monetary ignoramuses]   

Very few people Respond when I say run AMMO to Mexico, I Did it they Buy It.

Holdor » 14 Jul 2022, 5:54 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Jul 2022, 5:54 pm

18,000 Rounds in my trunk going into Mexico, 2 Pounds Black Tar Heroin coming back in

I am a Rich White Republican.


I did it a few times.

Holdor » 14 Jul 2022, 5:56 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Jul 2022, 5:56 pm

I tell you what, they need AMMO, not guns, in Mexico it HARD to get AMMO.

Holdor » 14 Jul 2022, 5:58 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Jul 2022, 5:58 pm

Like I said the easiest way to Defund the Cartels is to make the Drugs they make money on Legal.

you are more a punk protected by thugocracy than a thug yourself. Either way, dishonest and corrupt just destroys the reality you hide in, inside out.

ha ha ha ha ha, you are one of the 2,000 mules. half *** and half horse's ***.