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This fascinating Forbes article tells what is known about a secret operation conducted by Obamas ATF that armed Mexican drug cartels with US automatic weapons

https://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2 ... 025f7c752a

There can be a lot of speculation as to the why, but I think I know a few reasons

1.  To terrify the Mexican citizens thereby creating refugees and forcing them to migrate north to the US.. the browning of America is paramount

2.  To push the narrative that more gun control is needed, as they secretly order agents to let these illegal firearms "walk" .  A do not detain policy was in force.

3.  To cause general mayhem and havoc as the cartel gang members murder and mutilate their rivals and citizens as well.. American policy has always favored killing children

SJConspirator » 13 Jul 2022, 7:47 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Jul 2022, 7:47 pm

This fascinating Forbes article tells what is known about a secret operation conducted by Obamas ATF that armed Mexican drug cartels with US automatic weapons

https://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2 ... 025f7c752a

There can be a lot of speculation as to the why, but I think I know a few reasons

1.  To terrify the Mexican citizens thereby creating refugees and forcing them to migrate north to the US.. the browning of America is paramount

2.  To push the narrative that more gun control is needed, as they secretly order agents to let these illegal firearms "walk" .  A do not detain policy was in force.

3.  To cause general mayhem and havoc as the cartel gang members murder and mutilate their rivals and citizens as well.. American policy has always favored killing children

If WHITE MEN did the same exact  things that Obama / Holder did...?
Obviously they got away with breaking the law because they are Black [[[SOROS BACKED]]] Libs....   
 

GHETTOBLASTER » 13 Jul 2022, 7:53 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Jul 2022, 7:53 pm

If WHITE MEN did the same exact  things that Obama / Holder did...?
Obviously they got away with breaking the law because they are Black [[[SOROS BACKED]]] Libs.... 

I think Bush got away with worse tbh

SJConspirator » 13 Jul 2022, 7:47 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Jul 2022, 7:47 pm

This fascinating Forbes article tells what is known about a secret operation conducted by Obamas ATF that armed Mexican drug cartels with US automatic weapons

https://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2 ... 025f7c752a

There can be a lot of speculation as to the why, but I think I know a few reasons

1.  To terrify the Mexican citizens thereby creating refugees and forcing them to migrate north to the US.. the browning of America is paramount

2.  To push the narrative that more gun control is needed, as they secretly order agents to let these illegal firearms "walk" .  A do not detain policy was in force.

3.  To cause general mayhem and havoc as the cartel gang members murder and mutilate their rivals and citizens as well.. American policy has always favored killing children

The meskin government was close to putting the cartels to rout - which **** with the CIA's and DEA's money. Operation Fast and Furious was a lifeline to the cartels.

It is very likey that "Operation Fast and Furious" never existed, until the meskin government caught the CIA giving the guns away. The quickly cobbled together Op is just a back dated check. 
 
 

SJConspirator » 13 Jul 2022, 7:47 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Jul 2022, 7:47 pm

This fascinating Forbes article tells what is known about a secret operation conducted by Obamas ATF that armed Mexican drug cartels with US automatic weapons

https://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2 ... 025f7c752a

There can be a lot of speculation as to the why, but I think I know a few reasons

1.  To terrify the Mexican citizens thereby creating refugees and forcing them to migrate north to the US.. the browning of America is paramount

2.  To push the narrative that more gun control is needed, as they secretly order agents to let these illegal firearms "walk" .  A do not detain policy was in force.

3.  To cause general mayhem and havoc as the cartel gang members murder and mutilate their rivals and citizens as well.. American policy has always favored killing children

I believe I brought this up before. 

lol I think the most important conclusion is that our doj is pure ****.

Let's sell guns to these people so we can track and arrest them. 

Ok can we arrest them now?

No, that would be mean.  

You believe that? Do you?
 
 Especially **** hilarious in the gun control argument. The doj will literally give illegal guns to felons. 

But freak out over law abiding white guys wanting an ar15

the **** we gave to felons is a lot more 'designed for war' than a stupid AR 15.

Don't worry. Ukranian azov also did provide a few law abiding white guys eith even more heavy duty military equipment. 

It makes your head spin. 
 
 

FOS » 13 Jul 2022, 7:56 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Jul 2022, 7:56 pm

I believe I brought this up before. 

lol I think the most important conclusion is that our doj is pure ****.

Let's sell guns to these people so we can track and arrest them. 

Ok can we arrest them now?

No, that would be mean.  

You believe that? Do you?
 
 Especially **** hilarious in the gun control argument. The doj will literally give illegal guns to felons. 

But freak out over law abiding white guys wanting an ar15

the **** we gave to felons is a lot more 'designed for war' than a stupid AR 15.

Don't worry. Ukranian azov also did provide a few law abiding white guys eith even more heavy duty military equipment. 

It makes your head spin.

I see parallels between Ukraine and Mexico in that they both apparently defy larger countries . Putin could have just armed the dissidents in Ukraine and hope they take out Zelensky gvt

Instead he did a full on military invasion.

Which is what the US should do to Mexico if our government wasn't a weaselly phony piece of ****
 
 

SJConspirator » 13 Jul 2022, 8:41 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Jul 2022, 8:41 pm

I see parallels between Ukraine and Mexico in that they both apparently defy larger countries . Putin could have just armed the dissidents in Ukraine and hope they take out Zelensky gvt

Instead he did a full on military invasion.

Which is what the US should do to Mexico if our government wasn't a weaselly phony piece of ****

If we allowed them to run their own country - without creating, funding, training and arming anti-government criminal cartels, for example, - they might not NEED to be invaded. 

Don't set them up, ya likely won't need to knock them down. 

If we had not set Ukraine up, they would be in high cotton - instead of up to their asses in spetsnaz.

SJConspirator » 13 Jul 2022, 7:54 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Jul 2022, 7:54 pm

I think Bush got away with worse tbh

Well I need to brush up on my BUSHOLOGY to give you an argument....  
In 1980 I was just beginning to gain interest in politics and took  Poli-sci 101 at a local JC....[to satisfy a transfer req.]
At least half the class were OLD FOGIES just taking the class for the love of it..!!
The professor was a local State Rep who gave all of us an INSIDERS VIEW of California Government. 
Thankfully he didn't grade on the curve because those Old Fogies would have made anything less than a 90% average a C-

GHETTOBLASTER » 13 Jul 2022, 10:26 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Jul 2022, 10:26 pm

Well I need to brush up on my BUSHOLOGY to give you an argument....  
In 1980 I was just beginning to gain interest in politics and took  Poli-sci 101 at a local JC....[to satisfy a transfer req.]
At least half the class were OLD FOGIES just taking the class for the love of it..!!
The professor was a local State Rep who gave all of us an INSIDERS VIEW of California Government. 
Thankfully he didn't grade on the curve because those Old Fogies would have made anything less than a 90% average a C-

I don’t mean Bush sr. He was actually better than Reagan imo.

I mean Bush jr, who I consider one of the worst in history because he failed to prevent 9/11 and was possibly complicit

Cannonpointer » 13 Jul 2022, 9:39 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Jul 2022, 9:39 pm

If we allowed them to run their own country - without creating, funding, training and arming anti-government criminal cartels, for example, - they might not NEED to be invaded. 

Don't set them up, ya likely won't need to knock them down. 

If we had not set Ukraine up, they would be in high cotton - instead of up to their asses in spetsnaz.

well they don’t need to be invaded, but like you said, the Mexican government cracks down too hard on the cartels, and the DEA loses money.  We could never invade them with that rationale, however because it flies in the face of the narrative we present - Champions of democracy, shining city on a hill, all that moral high ground that the US still has in the eyes of simpletons.

I respect Putin for doing what he thought needed done, and not having reams of phony rhetoric that would contradict it.  The U.S. is so two faced in foreign policy, pretending to be the good guys when we are actually the villain

SJConspirator » 13 Jul 2022, 11:12 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Jul 2022, 11:12 pm

well they don’t need to be invaded, but like you said, the Mexican government cracks down too hard on the cartels, and the DEA loses money.  We could never invade them with that rationale, however because it flies in the face of the narrative we present - Champions of democracy, shining city on a hill, all that moral high ground that the US still has in the eyes of [FEWER AND FEWER] simpletons [EVERY DAY].

I respect Putin for doing what he thought needed done, and not having reams of phony rhetoric that would contradict it.  The U.S. is so two faced in foreign policy, pretending to be the good guys when we are actually the villain

I did  little editing.
 
 

SJConspirator » 13 Jul 2022, 11:07 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Jul 2022, 11:07 pm

I don’t mean Bush sr. He was actually better than Reagan imo.

I mean Bush jr, who I consider one of the worst in history because he failed to prevent 9/11 and was possibly complicit

Well here is one guy's explanation  of The Father and Son  Bush Era.....The Change of Official Enemies under George H.W. Bush – The Future of Freedom Foundation (fff.org)
 
 

SJConspirator » 13 Jul 2022, 7:47 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Jul 2022, 7:47 pm

This fascinating Forbes article tells what is known about a secret operation conducted by Obamas ATF that armed Mexican drug cartels with US automatic weapons

https://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2 ... 025f7c752a

There can be a lot of speculation as to the why, but I think I know a few reasons

1.  To terrify the Mexican citizens thereby creating refugees and forcing them to migrate north to the US.. the browning of America is paramount

2.  To push the narrative that more gun control is needed, as they secretly order agents to let these illegal firearms "walk" .  A do not detain policy was in force.

3.  To cause general mayhem and havoc as the cartel gang members murder and mutilate their rivals and citizens as well.. American policy has always favored killing children

And it winds up on the scrap heap of history.

Thanx for the reminder of what happened back then.  

The boss and his wingman are living the good life.​​​​​​​

SJConspirator » 13 Jul 2022, 11:07 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Jul 2022, 11:07 pm

I don’t mean Bush sr. He was actually better than Reagan imo.

I mean Bush jr, who I consider one of the worst in history because he failed to prevent 9/11 and was possibly complicit

Dude the more you have hope that some random guy politics was basically good...and then look into them...the more you realize you were wrong. 

Everyone since ww2. Hoover. Mccarthy. Everyone. All corrupted.
 

FOS » 14 Jul 2022, 12:21 am » wrote: ↑

14 Jul 2022, 12:21 am

Dude the more you have hope that some random guy politics was basically good...and then look into them...the more you realize you were wrong. 

Everyone since ww2. Hoover. Mccarthy. Everyone. All corrupted.

It's still somewhat subjective on who was better/worse than others.

A citizen of Hitoshima in 1949, for example could easily say Truman was the worst president, while someone else might say he was the best

SJConspirator » 13 Jul 2022, 7:47 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Jul 2022, 7:47 pm

This fascinating Forbes article tells what is known about a secret operation conducted by Obamas ATF that armed Mexican drug cartels with US automatic weapons

https://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2 ... 025f7c752a

There can be a lot of speculation as to the why, but I think I know a few reasons

1.  To terrify the Mexican citizens thereby creating refugees and forcing them to migrate north to the US.. the browning of America is paramount

2.  To push the narrative that more gun control is needed, as they secretly order agents to let these illegal firearms "walk" .  A do not detain policy was in force.

3.  To cause general mayhem and havoc as the cartel gang members murder and mutilate their rivals and citizens as well.. American policy has always favored killing children

I spent 6 months going down the west coast of Mexico, had a wonderful time.

In Mazatlán I found a hotel for $90 bucks a month with Frig and Stove, IN Acapulco I found a Hotel for $8 a day With Stove, In Puerto Escondido I found a Hotel for $40 a month and the the owners would cook for me, and send their daughter to the store for me, I was not allowed to tip her very much.

In Mazatlán I sent my Laundry out to another Resident, she charged $3 Folded, I gave her daughter a $5 and told her keep the change, the mother came down and said it is only $3 I said Tip, she said NO, NO. $3 Only.



I had a blast in Mexico, and the People are awesome, The cops are crooked though, I have stories about them.

Using taxpayer money to Arm cartels to kill Taxpayers was a great deal for Americans lol. The moron Americans must like being shot and killed.

SJConspirator » 13 Jul 2022, 7:47 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Jul 2022, 7:47 pm

This fascinating Forbes article tells what is known about a secret operation conducted by Obamas ATF that armed Mexican drug cartels with US automatic weapons

https://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2 ... 025f7c752a

There can be a lot of speculation as to the why, but I think I know a few reasons

1.  To terrify the Mexican citizens thereby creating refugees and forcing them to migrate north to the US.. the browning of America is paramount

2.  To push the narrative that more gun control is needed, as they secretly order agents to let these illegal firearms "walk" .  A do not detain policy was in force.

3.  To cause general mayhem and havoc as the cartel gang members murder and mutilate their rivals and citizens as well.. American policy has always favored killing children

This is NOT a "Forbes article"...

It is a canadian asshole hack offering his opinion

 

SJConspirator » 01 Aug 2022, 8:40 am » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2022, 8:40 am

Using taxpayer money to Arm cartels to kill Taxpayers was a great deal for Americans lol. The moron Americans must like being shot and killed.

You need a jaw truss, Rube.

Qanon much?