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Cannonpointer » 01 Sep 2023, 6:55 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 6:55 pm

I showed you that more people resulted in longer life spans  

No
you THINK you did but you didn't.
Only GOD KNOWS what our timeline of medical advances would have looked like.
The advent of antibiotics was one of the biggest contributors [if not the biggest advance of them all] to longevity and they were introduced when our population was only  about 100 MM people.
I'd rather be able to enjoy a less stressfull  life with less competition for resources  than fret about all the lost opportunities to live to 150 if only we had twice as many people doing longevity research..
 

DeezerShoove » 31 Aug 2023, 4:44 pm » wrote: ↑

31 Aug 2023, 4:44 pm

Yup, I agree with you. You do get that, I hope.
The confusing din was overwhelming to many.
I was one of the assholes who was told to wear a mask... Many times.
Didn't see the usefulness of that **** then and I confess I'm even stupider about it now.

I live in a liberal state but not many came up to me, citizen-to-citizen, to say **** to my face.
That "Punch" dickhead said people better wear a mask or get bloodied by him.
Two years and I never met "that guy".  

**** masks, **** him, **** screamers. 

btw
That "math" is accumulative.
What we accrued in 3 years cannot be used against decisions made 3 years ago.
You keep trying to miss that basis of my view. We both reacted to situations right in front of us.
If you're trolling for a pat on the back from me, I want one too.

Go along to get along is just as dangerous as falling for it all regardless. YOU are part of the pus filled gash that honored the govt edict which is fundamentally anti American.

Why is it that people like me who smelled pure feces by May 1, 2020 and openly defied it all to anyone and everyone vs. people like you who believed it was more important to comply to bad authority?

You played Russian roulette with the gene modifying toxin. So far you are in the 1/3 camp where nothing apparently has happened to you. The rest have been screwed or candidates up on the block to be screwed.

Admit it….you played Russian roulette and you’re damn lucky. 

 Btw Punch is the special kind of mask/injection  lover dumb bastard I referred to in my other thread….anyone like that gets in my face and I will totally **** them up. 
 

GHETTOBLASTER » 01 Sep 2023, 8:09 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 8:09 pm

No
you THINK you did but you didn't.
Only GOD KNOWS what our timeline of medical advances would have looked like.
The advent of antibiotics was one of the biggest contributors [if not the biggest advance of them all] to longevity and they were introduced when our population was only  about 100 MM people.

So we can rule those out.

GHETTOBLASTER » 01 Sep 2023, 8:09 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 8:09 pm

I'd rather be able to enjoy a less stressfull  life with less competition for resources  than fret about all the lost opportunities to live to 150 if only we had twice as many people doing longevity research..

I'm not going to repeat the arguments you're playing dumb about.

Cannonpointer » 01 Sep 2023, 9:38 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 9:38 pm

So we can rule those out.

I'm not going to repeat the arguments you're playing dumb about.

Oh..you mean like the time YOU TRIED TO CLAIM THAT  HOUSES AREN'T RESOURCES...!!  

GHETTOBLASTER » 01 Sep 2023, 9:42 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 9:42 pm

Oh..you mean like the time YOU TRIED TO CLAIM THAT  HOUSES AREN'T RESOURCES...!!

Houses are infrastructure, built from resources. 

I guess if you wanna get a reverse mortgage you could view it as one.

Indeed, you're welcome to view your home as a resource all you want. 

YOUR home. Not mine, ***. Hands off. 
 

Cannonpointer » 01 Sep 2023, 9:48 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 9:48 pm

Houses are infrastructure, built from resources. 

I guess if you wanna get a reverse mortgage you could view it as one.

Indeed, you're welcome to view your home as a resource all you want. 

YOUR home. Not mine, ***. Hands off.

 resource
rē′sôrs″, -zôrs″, rĭ-sôrs′, -zôrs′noun

1. Something that is available for use or that can be used for support or help.
2. An available supply, especially of money, that can be drawn on when needed.
3. The ability to deal with a difficult or troublesome situation effectively; resourcefulness.

GHETTOBLASTER » 01 Sep 2023, 9:56 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 9:56 pm

 resource
rē′sôrs″, -zôrs″, rĭ-sôrs′, -zôrs′noun

1. Something that is available for use or that can be used for support or help.
2. An available supply, especially of money, that can be drawn on when needed.
3. The ability to deal with a difficult or troublesome situation effectively; resourcefulness.

Well there ya go, pookie. YOUR home is a resource to YOU. Bless your heart.
 

Tempest62 » 01 Sep 2023, 8:44 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 8:44 pm

Go along to get along is just as dangerous as falling for it all regardless. YOU are part of the pus filled gash that honored the govt edict which is fundamentally anti American.

Why is it that people like me who smelled pure feces by May 1, 2020 and openly defied it all to anyone and everyone vs. people like you who believed it was more important to comply to bad authority?

You played Russian roulette with the gene modifying toxin. So far you are in the 1/3 camp where nothing apparently has happened to you. The rest have been screwed or candidates up on the block to be screwed.

Admit it….you played Russian roulette and you’re damn lucky. 

 Btw Punch is the special kind of mask/injection  lover dumb bastard I referred to in my other thread….anyone like that gets in my face and I will totally **** them up.

I do hope you and Punch get to meet. That ought to be interesting.

btw
I have not hid anything about my personal journey into the the covid minefield.
As far as admitting something that you need to hear... Why the **** would I do that?

My story, reasons, motivations, etc. have been put out there.
No shame, nobody's business really, but no secret either.
Let the weepy **** cave to your bully tactics. Go pick their scabs.   

Half of Vaccinated People Never Stop Producing Spike Protein, Study Found

https://www.igor-chudov.com/p/half-of-v ... never-stop

POST-VACCINE TREATMENT PROTOCOL

https://covid19criticalcare.com/protoco ... treatment/

GeorgeWashington » 02 Sep 2023, 7:04 am » wrote: ↑

02 Sep 2023, 7:04 am

POST-VACCINE TREATMENT PROTOCOL

https://covid19criticalcare.com/protoco ... treatment/

Don't take the clot shot in the first place.  At the first sign of covid or any of its "variants" take Ivermectin.

I got the **** the first time I was exposed to it.  I dosed myself with Ivermectin and my ONLY symptoms were a loss of smell and taste for a few days.

My doctor an I argued over my refusal to take the jab.  He told me that at 68 years old, slightly overweight and having COPD that if I caught it, it would probably kill me.  6 months later at another routine visit, he was out sick with covid and he had been vaxxed and boosted. What the hell does that tell you? And he is 20 years younger than me.

The next visit (6 moths later) we still argued about the efficacy of Ivermectin.  He told me that he had 8 patients die from refusing the vax and instead took Ivermectin.  I asked him how many patients he had die that took the vax.  He did not answer and left the exam room.  What does that tell you?
 
 

Cannonpointer » 01 Sep 2023, 6:59 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 6:59 pm

A 40% increase is an order of magnitude that could be expected from a comet hitting the earth. WWII didn't cause that kind of uptick. Try to think.

Oh, look. You have devolved to citing the left's favorite fact checkers.

Have fun being that guy. Stand tall.

It's painful, but I am trying to think this through. I've looked at as many charts as possible the last few days on excess deaths from as many sources as possible and have found them ALL to be relatively the same. You have absolutely no upper hand in using life insurance actuaries to prove a point as their numbers are very close to those government numbers.

You have probably seen this already but a pretty cool interactive chart to compare excess death rates from country to country. (and **** me it shows the same spike in 3rd quarter of 2021 that life insurance actuaries claim)

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/exce ... untry=~USA


These facts remain:
1. The peak of excess deaths were in 2020, prior to vaccines.
2. Excess deaths in 2021 were less than 2020 with 2/3 of Americans having at least one jab by end of July 2021.
3. Excess deaths in 2022 were less than 2021.
4. Excess deaths in 2023 have fallen off a cliff. (only time will tell for rest of 2023)

I do agree the vaccines killed some people, just not to the degree you believe. I imagine these numbers will be talked about for years to come. I also believe the COVID virus  brought out underlying issues within many people and killed them. Those issues will continue killing people before their time.

Prior to COVID, maybe 3-4 years, I was having bouts of severe inflammation on occasion. Lifting something wrong, too much repetitive motion. I always thought it was carpel tunnel or a torn rotator cuff, quite debilitating. My last positive rapid test was in Feb. 2022, 8 months later I was diagnosed with full blown RA. (Rheumatoid Arthritis) Hands, wrists, shoulders and feet. Lucky me, I get to take a low dose chemotherapy drug for the rest of my life.
Correlation or Coincidence? I have no idea. It hasn't killed me yet but surely will reduce my life span.

As this year progresses, I will keep posting and looking at 2023 excess death rates.

 

Fuelman » 02 Sep 2023, 11:46 am » wrote: ↑

02 Sep 2023, 11:46 am

It's painful, but I am trying to think this through. I've looked at as many charts as possible the last few days on excess deaths from as many sources as possible and have found them ALL to be relatively the same. You have absolutely no upper hand in using life insurance actuaries to prove a point as their numbers are very close to those government numbers.

You have probably seen this already but a pretty cool interactive chart to compare excess death rates from country to country. (and **** me it shows the same spike in 3rd quarter of 2021 that life insurance actuaries claim)

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/exce ... untry=~USA

These facts remain:
1. The peak of excess deaths were in 2020, prior to vaccines.
2. Excess deaths in 2021 were less than 2020 with 2/3 of Americans having at least one jab by end of July 2021.
3. Excess deaths in 2022 were less than 2021.
4. Excess deaths in 2023 have fallen off a cliff. (only time will tell for rest of 2023)

I do agree the vaccines killed some people, just not to the degree you believe. I imagine these numbers will be talked about for years to come. I also believe the COVID virus  brought out underlying issues within many people and killed them. Those issues will continue killing people before their time.

Prior to COVID, maybe 3-4 years, I was having bouts of severe inflammation on occasion. Lifting something wrong, too much repetitive motion. I always thought it was carpel tunnel or a torn rotator cuff, quite debilitating. My last positive rapid test was in Feb. 2022, 8 months later I was diagnosed with full blown RA. (Rheumatoid Arthritis) Hands, wrists, shoulders and feet. Lucky me, I get to take a low dose chemotherapy drug for the rest of my life.
Correlation or Coincidence? I have no idea. It hasn't killed me yet but surely will reduce my life span.

As this year progresses, I will keep posting and looking at 2023 excess death rates.

In the unlikely event you have not heard of of Qunol, let me be the first to recommend it.  It's a peak performing over the counter RA treatment.

RA is an inflammatory disease and inflammatory diseases are always related to diet. I recommend elimination tests. Read Dead Doctors Don't Lie, and stop permitting liars and thieves and con-men to pretend stewardship of your wellbeing. They are there only to feed, not to give succor. Especially the ones you trust. 

Investigate water fasting. I just came off a nine day water fast on thursday and my numbers are through the floor. I would be willing to bet that at the end of a 3 day water fast, your RA would be nonexistent.

It only takes three days and a pair to prove me wrong...
 

Unnaturalness in the evolution process of the SARS-CoV-2 variants and the possibility of deliberate natural selection

As a result, we concluded that the formations of a part of Omicron isolates BA.1, BA.1.1, and BA.2 were not the products of genome evolution as is commonly observed in nature

https://zenodo.org/record/8216373

Fuelman » 02 Sep 2023, 11:46 am » wrote: ↑

02 Sep 2023, 11:46 am

I do agree the vaccines killed some people, just not to the degree you believe. I imagine these numbers will be talked about for years to come. I also believe the COVID virus  brought out underlying issues within many people and killed them. Those issues will continue killing people before their time.

 

Vaccines killed many more people than were reported because government categorized anyone that died within 2 weeks of injection as being unvaccinated and having died of Covid.

There was no interest in actually finding out why the vaccine was killing people.

 

Cannonpointer » 02 Sep 2023, 2:43 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Sep 2023, 2:43 pm

Fuelman » 02 Sep 2023, 11:46 am » wrote: ↑

02 Sep 2023, 11:46 am

It's painful, but I am trying to think this through. I've looked at as many charts as possible the last few days on excess deaths from as many sources as possible and have found them ALL to be relatively the same. You have absolutely no upper hand in using life insurance actuaries to prove a point as their numbers are very close to those government numbers.

You have probably seen this already but a pretty cool interactive chart to compare excess death rates from country to country. (and **** me it shows the same spike in 3rd quarter of 2021 that life insurance actuaries claim)

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/exce ... untry=~USA

These facts remain:
1. The peak of excess deaths were in 2020, prior to vaccines.
2. Excess deaths in 2021 were less than 2020 with 2/3 of Americans having at least one jab by end of July 2021.
3. Excess deaths in 2022 were less than 2021.
4. Excess deaths in 2023 have fallen off a cliff. (only time will tell for rest of 2023)

I do agree the vaccines killed some people, just not to the degree you believe. I imagine these numbers will be talked about for years to come. I also believe the COVID virus  brought out underlying issues within many people and killed them. Those issues will continue killing people before their time.

Prior to COVID, maybe 3-4 years, I was having bouts of severe inflammation on occasion. Lifting something wrong, too much repetitive motion. I always thought it was carpel tunnel or a torn rotator cuff, quite debilitating. My last positive rapid test was in Feb. 2022, 8 months later I was diagnosed with full blown RA. (Rheumatoid Arthritis) Hands, wrists, shoulders and feet. Lucky me, I get to take a low dose chemotherapy drug for the rest of my life.
Correlation or Coincidence? I have no idea. It hasn't killed me yet but surely will reduce my life span.

As this year progresses, I will keep posting and looking at 2023 excess death rates.

In the unlikely event you have not heard of of Qunol, let me be the first to recommend it.  It's a peak performing over the counter RA treatment.

RA is an inflammatory disease and inflammatory diseases are always related to diet. I recommend elimination tests. Read Dead Doctors Don't Lie, and stop permitting liars and thieves and con-men to pretend stewardship of your wellbeing. They are there only to feed, not to give succor. Especially the ones you trust. 

Investigate water fasting. I just came off a nine day water fast on thursday and my numbers are through the floor. I would be willing to bet that at the end of a 3 day water fast, your RA would be nonexistent.

It only takes three days and a pair to prove me wrong...

https://youtu.be/4ZB0UziOOY8?si=A6JMMeYo4MIjS5hR

https://cdn.videy.co/23tcbjtQ.mp4

Cannonpointer » 02 Sep 2023, 2:43 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Sep 2023, 2:43 pm

In the unlikely event you have not heard of of Qunol, let me be the first to recommend it.  It's a peak performing over the counter RA treatment.

RA is an inflammatory disease and inflammatory diseases are always related to diet. I recommend elimination tests. Read Dead Doctors Don't Lie, and stop permitting liars and thieves and con-men to pretend stewardship of your wellbeing. They are there only to feed, not to give succor. Especially the ones you trust. 

Investigate water fasting. I just came off a nine day water fast on thursday and my numbers are through the floor. I would be willing to bet that at the end of a 3 day water fast, your RA would be nonexistent.

It only takes three days and a pair to prove me wrong...

RA is also an autoimmune disease. Yes, I agree that diet can reduce inflammation in the body. What it can't do is surpress the hyper active immune system. Sounds like you are aware of what a SED rate is, my first  blood draw results showed a SED of 255. Normal is 0-20 for my age. The rheumatologist said my case is mild, I can't even imagine having a severe case. The methotrexate is working bringing SED down under 20, only have a little stiffness first thing in the morning and it subsides with activity. I still have to be careful though, it doesn't take much to produce a flair up. Mopped the house floors the other day and my left wrist blew up, usually takes 24-48 hours for a flair up to subside.

Of course I eat all the wrong foods, red meat, sugar, processed foods and carbs, that tend to make people gain weight. I'm carrying a few extra pounds, 5'11"/200. It may help reducing those foods to drop another 10 pounds. My biggest hurdle is smoking . That mind **** is a work in progress!

I'll look into the water fasting, the hydro flask goes everywhere with me and consume 3/4-1 gallon a day.

 

Court revives doctors’ lawsuit saying FDA overstepped its authority with anti-ivermectin campaign

https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus- ... dad70170e0

Fuelman » 03 Sep 2023, 10:47 am » wrote: ↑

03 Sep 2023, 10:47 am

Cannonpointer » 02 Sep 2023, 2:43 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Sep 2023, 2:43 pm

In the unlikely event you have not heard of of Qunol, let me be the first to recommend it.  It's a peak performing over the counter RA treatment.

RA is an inflammatory disease and inflammatory diseases are always related to diet. I recommend elimination tests. Read Dead Doctors Don't Lie, and stop permitting liars and thieves and con-men to pretend stewardship of your wellbeing. They are there only to feed, not to give succor. Especially the ones you trust. 

Investigate water fasting. I just came off a nine day water fast on thursday and my numbers are through the floor. I would be willing to bet that at the end of a 3 day water fast, your RA would be nonexistent.

It only takes three days and a pair to prove me wrong...

RA is also an autoimmune disease. Yes, I agree that diet can reduce inflammation in the body. What it can't do is surpress the hyper active immune system.

This study covers the benefits of intermittent fasting.  A several day water fast should have as good if not better results.  It makes sense to me that the harmful  things we eat entering our cells could trigger the immune system to attack the cells harboring the toxins. 

Studies show that intermittent fasting may have beneficial effects on various autoimmune diseases, such as type 1 diabetes, rheumatoid arthritis, and systemic lupus erythematosus, by reducing inflammatory markers, modulating the immune system, altering and improving gut microbiota, and enhancing cellular repair mechanisms through autophagy.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37572827/

My biggest hurdle is smoking . That mind **** is a work in progress!

What helped me quit was switching to American spirits to ween off the chemicals, and then when I actually quit, I took a sip of water whenever I wanted a smoke. There’s also a good sleep hypnosis to quit smoking on YouTube