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Fuelman » 03 Sep 2023, 10:47 am » wrote: RA is also an autoimmune disease. Yes, I agree that diet can reduce inflammation in the body. What it can't do is surpress the hyper active immune system. Sounds like you are aware of what a SED rate is, my first  blood draw results showed a SED of 255. Normal is 0-20 for my age. The rheumatologist said my case is mild, I can't even imagine having a severe case. The methotrexate is working bringing SED down under 20, only have a little stiffness first thing in the morning and it subsides with activity. I still have to be careful though, it doesn't take much to produce a flair up. Mopped the house floors the other day and my left wrist blew up, usually takes 24-48 hours for a flair up to subside.

Of course I eat all the wrong foods, red meat, sugar, processed foods and carbs, that tend to make people gain weight. I'm carrying a few extra pounds, 5'11"/200. It may help reducing those foods to drop another 10 pounds. My biggest hurdle is smoking 🚬🚬🚬🚬. That mind **** is a work in progress!

I'll look into the water fasting, the hydro flask goes everywhere with me and consume 3/4-1 gallon a day.
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My mother had this for years. Her hands were like clubs-  got it at age 30- died at 70.
so i know a lot about this and went thru years of strange drugs she was on. Even liquid gold shots. LOL
.Methotrexate is  a chemo drug. Be careful of this drug. All the folks i know that have been on it- died of cancer... be  very careful!!!!
how old are you? can i ask?
 
 
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Fuelman » 03 Sep 2023, 10:47 am » wrote: RA is also an autoimmune disease. Yes, I agree that diet can reduce inflammation in the body. What it can't do is surpress the hyper active immune system. Sounds like you are aware of what a SED rate is, my first  blood draw results showed a SED of 255. Normal is 0-20 for my age. The rheumatologist said my case is mild, I can't even imagine having a severe case. The methotrexate is working bringing SED down under 20, only have a little stiffness first thing in the morning and it subsides with activity. I still have to be careful though, it doesn't take much to produce a flair up. Mopped the house floors the other day and my left wrist blew up, usually takes 24-48 hours for a flair up to subside.

Of course I eat all the wrong foods, red meat, sugar, processed foods and carbs, that tend to make people gain weight. I'm carrying a few extra pounds, 5'11"/200. It may help reducing those foods to drop another 10 pounds. My biggest hurdle is smoking 🚬🚬🚬🚬. That mind **** is a work in progress!

I'll look into the water fasting, the hydro flask goes everywhere with me and consume 3/4-1 gallon a day.
5-11 and only  200...what a great place to begin...!
You could just give up beer and chips..add 200  calories worth of exercise and see a pound per week disappear easily.
Resistance training via simple stretching exercises will help "unlock" your moving parts.
Work "towards the pain" and find the time for 2 or 3 "DIY" physical therapy sessions every day.
Within 2 months you'll feel results if you stick to a challenging routine that's done religiously.
The sessions I have done at a professional clinic last 1 hour each and I'm dripping wet with sweat after each one.
Later in the evenings I'm down at Planet Fitness for a 1/2 hour of Elliptical Machine [which is the easiest on the joints unless you can do water aerobics in a pool]
I'm at a point now where everything still makes SNAP CRACKLE POP sounds..but I don't feel the pain nearly as much.
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sootedupCyndi » 03 Sep 2023, 12:07 pm » wrote: I lost my post.  posted again.
My mother had this for years. Her hands were like clubs-  got it at age 30- died at 70.
so i know a lot about this and went thru years of strange drugs she was on. Even liquid gold shots. LOL
.Methotrexate is  a chemo drug. Be careful of this drug. All the folks i know that have been on it- died of cancer... be  very careful!!!!
how old are you? can i ask?
Sorry to hear about your mom, 40 years is a long time to deal with RA.

I turned 62 in April. Can't say I was thrilled to hear the first option was the chemo drug methotrexate and standard go to for rheumatology doctors. Quite a few people can't handle the side effects of the drug and move on to other avenues. I get a bit of brain fog the next day, the only real side effect for me.The wife joined a few support groups online for RA. The short take away was it appears that the treatment is highly individualized and what works this month might not work next month. On the flip side, some people take methotrexate for 20-30 years and die of something else. Steroids do a good job but just another drug you don't want to take long term on a regular basis.
 
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GeorgeWashington » 03 Sep 2023, 12:04 pm » wrote: This study covers the benefits of intermittent fasting.  A several day water fast should have as good if not better results.  It makes sense to me that the harmful  things we eat entering our cells could trigger the immune system to attack the cells harboring the toxins. 

Studies show that intermittent fasting may have beneficial effects on various autoimmune diseases, such as type 1 diabetes, rheumatoid arthritis, and systemic lupus erythematosus, by reducing inflammatory markers, modulating the immune system, altering and improving gut microbiota, and enhancing cellular repair mechanisms through autophagy.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37572827/

What helped me quit was switching to American spirits to ween off the chemicals, and then when I actually quit, I took a sip of water whenever I wanted a smoke. There’s also a good sleep hypnosis to quit smoking on YouTube
We will look further into this, the wife likes to go down the rabbit hole and search options.

" It makes sense to me that the harmful  things we eat entering our cells could trigger the immune system to attack the cells harboring the toxins".

Interesting, never heard it put quite like that.

Lol, American Spirits? Love them! Been smoking them for 5-6 years.
 
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Fuelman » 03 Sep 2023, 2:55 pm » wrote:
GeorgeWashington » 03 Sep 2023, 12:04 pm » wrote: This study covers the benefits of intermittent fasting.  A several day water fast should have as good if not better results.  It makes sense to me that the harmful  things we eat entering our cells could trigger the immune system to attack the cells harboring the toxins. 

Studies show that intermittent fasting may have beneficial effects on various autoimmune diseases, such as type 1 diabetes, rheumatoid arthritis, and systemic lupus erythematosus, by reducing inflammatory markers, modulating the immune system, altering and improving gut microbiota, and enhancing cellular repair mechanisms through autophagy.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37572827/

What helped me quit was switching to American spirits to ween off the chemicals, and then when I actually quit, I took a sip of water whenever I wanted a smoke. There’s also a good sleep hypnosis to quit smoking on YouTube
We will look further into this, the wife likes to go down the rabbit hole and search options.

" It makes sense to me that the harmful  things we eat entering our cells could trigger the immune system to attack the cells harboring the toxins".

Interesting, never heard it put quite like that.

Lol, American Spirits? Love them! Been smoking them for 5-6 years.
I first started researching fasting a couple of years ago when my mom was about to start chemo.  I found research from a doctor that was having  the study patients fast for 36 hours before chemo, and the control patients were eating as usual.  

He found that the fasting patients had better chemo results and the chemo symptoms like hair loss were less prevalent.  When you fast, your body goes into autophagy where  the healthy cells enter a protected state and begin to clean up/consume damaged cells for energy.  Being in this protected state, the chemo did not affect the healthy cells and the healthy cells broke down and consumed the cancerous cells. 
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Fuelman » 03 Sep 2023, 1:25 pm » wrote: Sorry to hear about your mom, 40 years is a long time to deal with RA.

I turned 62 in April. Can't say I was thrilled to hear the first option was the chemo drug methotrexate and standard go to for rheumatology doctors. Quite a few people can't handle the side effects of the drug and move on to other avenues. I get a bit of brain fog the next day, the only real side effect for me.The wife joined a few support groups online for RA. The short take away was it appears that the treatment is highly individualized and what works this month might not work next month. On the flip side, some people take methotrexate for 20-30 years and die of something else. Steroids do a good job but just another drug you don't want to take long term on a regular basis.
My mother was on prednisone-  she told me- it was the only thing that ever worked! 
Of course doctors hated it. LOL
She was on it 30 years- yes -and she was fed the same line. Get off it now- lol
or die- Don't worry about it.
Don't worry about brain fog either- i live with that daily-  not for RA tho.
no meds?
I call it my hazy days... and that's ok. :lol:  
 
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sootedupCyndi » 03 Sep 2023, 4:10 pm » wrote: My mother was on prednisone-  she told me- it was the only thing that ever worked! 
Of course doctors hated it. LOL
She was on it 30 years- yes -and she was fed the same line. Get off it now- lol
or die- Don't worry about it.
Don't worry about brain fog either- i live with that daily-  not for RA tho.
no meds?
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Ha, we must have been seeing the same doctor! I do have a script for Prednisone, I save it for shoulder flare ups only as they are the worst by far. Mums the word when at the rheumatologist. We actually did tell the Doctor and she got kind of wide eyed and said to limit that to a couple of times a year. 
 
 
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Fuelman » 03 Sep 2023, 4:29 pm » wrote: Ha, we must have been seeing the same doctor! I do have a script for Prednisone, I save it for shoulder flare ups only as they are the worst by far. Mums the word when at the rheumatologist. We actually did tell the Doctor and she got kind of wide eyed and said to limit that to a couple of times a year.
:rofl:  usually i'm a bit down on meds..  but she took it forever... never hurt her. It was a cheap med too. :wave:  yes -shoulders DO hurt bad. Big bone.
 
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Neither the RKI, Germany’s public health authority, nor the PEI, our pharmaceuticals regulator, have taken even the most basic steps to evaluate the frequency or nature of vaccine injuries, or even the effectiveness of the vaccines in general. Technical problems, staff shortages, and the sheer extent of the data, has prevented them from fulfilling their most basic duties.

For example, the medicines regulator PEI received so many adverse events reports through their "SaveVac" app that they overwhelmed their technical infrastructure.

https://www.eugyppius.com/p/german-heal ... medium=web
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Adverse events following COVID-19 mRNA vaccines: A systematic review of cardiovascular complication, thrombosis, and thrombocytopenia

A total of 81 articles analyzed confirmed cardiovascular complications post-COVID-19 mRNA vaccines in 17,636 individuals and reported 284 deaths with any mRNA vaccine.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36988252/
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GeorgeWashington » 05 Sep 2023, 2:04 pm » wrote: Adverse events following COVID-19 mRNA vaccines: A systematic review of cardiovascular complication, thrombosis, and thrombocytopenia

A total of 81 articles analyzed confirmed cardiovascular complications post-COVID-19 mRNA vaccines in 17,636 individuals and reported 284 deaths with any mRNA vaccine.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36988252/
I read your post here and instinctively I process it against the whole species involved. What is the time frame for your 17,636 getting complications and 284 deaths out of 8 billion living.

Everyone says I miss the point, of their argument and I haven't left their argument out of the conversation. I am told to look at the bigger picture but everyone's bigger picture is potential doubt about how living actually evolves now.

Nobody can repair what is done to save humanity until ancestries stop performing humanities against their own species.
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GeorgeWashington » 05 Sep 2023, 2:04 pm » wrote: Adverse events following COVID-19 mRNA vaccines: A systematic review of cardiovascular complication, thrombosis, and thrombocytopenia

A total of 81 articles analyzed confirmed cardiovascular complications post-COVID-19 mRNA vaccines in 17,636 individuals and reported 284 deaths with any mRNA vaccine.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36988252/
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With the use of ivermectin there would have been no so-called pandemic and no need to shut down schools, businesses , to wear masks, no need to force vaccinations, to change election voting. It was all theater, a dry run for big brother to completely take over.

And, of course, as I predicted, now we have plandemic 2.0 just in time for the campaign season and 2024 election.

The dim-0-craps and their deep state apparatchiks are drunk on their quest for absolute power to cram their leftist agenda on the American citizenry!!!
 
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Buffalo » 07 Sep 2023, 9:00 am » wrote: With the use of ivermectin there would have been no so-called pandemic and no need to shut down schools, businesses , to wear masks, no need to force vaccinations, to change election voting. It was all theater, a dry run for big brother to completely take over.

And, of course, as I predicted, now we have plandemic 2.0 just in time for the campaign season and 2024 election.

The dim-0-craps and their deep state apparatchiks are drunk on their quest for absolute power to cram their leftist agenda on the American citizenry!!!
They're becoming very Obvious this time around.
Depends on how DUMB half the population is? Pretty dumb is what scares me.!!! :wave:  
 
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Paxlovid seemed to work just fine
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sootedupCyndi » 07 Sep 2023, 9:06 am » wrote: They're becoming very Obvious this time around.
Depends on how DUMB half the population is? Pretty dumb is what scares me.!!! Image

Morning Glory!!!  :wave:  The dim-0-craps and their deep stat apparatchiks don't give a **** how "OBVIOUS" they are in their obsession with power.
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sootedupCyndi » 07 Sep 2023, 9:06 am » wrote: They're becoming very Obvious this time around.
Depends on how DUMB half the population is? Pretty dumb is what scares me.!!! Image
you got that right their commitment to stupidity is impressive 
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