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Weigh the risks of getting the vaccine, kids
Weigh the risks of getting the vaccine, kids
By GeorgeWashington
15 Jul 2022 12:59 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
15 Sep 2023 10:27 am
Was the question really that hard? Here it is again:Cannonpointer » 14 Sep 2023, 11:01 am » wrote: ↑ The evidence throughout this thread is overwhelming to all but the stupidest. There have been HUNDREDS of well placed whistle blowers. Doctors have been savaged and delicensed for treating their patients honestly and with perfect integrity. Voices have been silenced, social media has been censored, a swarm of human hornets has descended on any who dare so much as pose questions regarding the efficacy or safety of the now debunked "vaccines."
The media have been caught driving false narratives. One excellent example is when they pretended that hospitals were filled to bursting with Ivermectin overdoses - to the point that gunshot victims were being turned away. Meanwhile, not one person in America "overdosed" on Ivermectin - notwithstanding many were forced to take animal formulations due to doctors being bullied by big pharma's government stooges.
Only the wittingly dishonest and intentionally gay are still pretending there is any question that the experiment is unsafe and ineffective.
Any speculation on the increase of excess deaths for this next 3 months?
Did you know there were 400,000 excess deaths in the US IN 2017? That same year was compared to 5-6 EU countries that comprise a similar population and the study found the excess death rate was 14% higher in the US.
I agree with most of your post above, those things did happen and continue to happen. It has been a disaster from the beginning! The reason for the question was to push back on the claims the vaccines are the reason for the majority of excess deaths. There is only one reason all these charts and videos of excess all cause death rates are in this thread. Only a short bus'er wouldn't notice the obvious reason.
There are plenty of posts in this thread claiming some wild ***'ed conspiracy theories also.
1. The NWO, United States Government and Big Pharma all colluded to produce vaccines intended to kill people!
2. The vaccines are the reason for the spikes in all cause excess death rates around the globe!
This one is a whopper:
https://cdn.videy.co/yqL7BtJj.mp4
We are on the same side CP, just don't go all fruit loop cause I push back on a couple of the more crazy statements.
If you do agree with points 1 and 2 above, we should see a dramatic increase in all cause excess deaths with a new round of vaccines being administered.
15 Sep 2023 10:28 am
15 Sep 2023 12:08 pm
The only thing that's changed for CP is the Internet!Nostradamus'omh » 15 Sep 2023, 10:33 am » wrote: ↑ You shouldn't laugh when your accuracy is less than his about the whole evolving thing.
https://youtu.be/JNS42Na2mpc?si=BWB4QVQLuHIdcx8R
15 Sep 2023 5:42 pm
Not hard - flaccid. And gay.
And the question is stupid horse ****.Fuelman » 15 Sep 2023, 10:27 am » wrote: ↑ Here it is again:
Any speculation on the increase of excess deaths for this next 3 months?
Every question has one or more imbedded statements. Even "Are you hot" has the imbedded statement that you are either hot or no.
The imbedded claim - an absolute horse **** claim - in your question is that we have sufficient data to predict the upsurge in deaths. And this in the face of ample evidence that much of what got distributed was saline or other inert material. We have no way of saying where the bad stuff went or when it went out - other than to watch. What we DO have is an order of magnitude of excess deaths and no singular event besides the vax to which we might tie those deaths.
The pretense that we have sufficient evidence on which to make predictions is not only ****, but it's bad faith ****. You don't believe it. So why come out of your face with it?
Yet you will turn around and claim it's not from the vax - without manning up and proposing a counter narrative.Fuelman » 15 Sep 2023, 10:27 am » wrote: ↑Did you know there were 400,000 excess deaths in the US IN 2017? That same year was compared to 5-6 EU countries that comprise a similar population and the study found the excess death rate was 14% higher in the US.
When are you going to do that?Fuelman » 15 Sep 2023, 10:27 am » wrote: ↑ I agree with most of your post above, those things did happen and continue to happen. It has been a disaster from the beginning! The reason for the question was to push back on the claims the vaccines are the reason for the majority of excess deaths.
Are you under the impression that asking dishonest, bad-faith questions is proper "pushback"? It isn't. It's lame.
Only the MSM and their dupes run around calling people conspiracy theorists, fake newser. You down with the climate **** and the gender nonsense, too?Fuelman » 15 Sep 2023, 10:27 am » wrote: ↑There are plenty of posts in this thread claiming some wild ***'ed conspiracy theories also.
What is your counter narrative, Spark? If you don't have one, why are you working your neck about it?Fuelman » 15 Sep 2023, 10:27 am » wrote: ↑ 1. The NWO, United States Government and Big Pharma all colluded to produce vaccines intended to kill people!
2. The vaccines are the reason for the spikes in all cause excess death rates around the globe!
You're assuming anyone but the already injected morons are going to take them. They aren't. Anyone who has resisted the clot shot to this point is going to continue to resist. Only the gays are going to be taking that **** - even the *** are too smart.Fuelman » 15 Sep 2023, 10:27 am » wrote: ↑ If you do agree with points 1 and 2 above, we should see a dramatic increase in all cause excess deaths with a new round of vaccines being administered.
You're also assuming they'll put out a round of poison in the same ratio as past rounds of population control clot shots. Maybe they will, maybe they won't. Maybe they'll put out 100% poison or 0%. We are not in charge of anything except saying yes or no to their proven-bad drug.
But since you clearly do not believe the "conspiracy theory," your question is a smarmy cocksuck - not a real question.
"Because I SAY I am" is fallacy, not science
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not your friend
An opinion you won't defend is not yours. It's someone else's.
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe.
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge.
Only religions declare heresy; only lies require protection.
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not your friend
An opinion you won't defend is not yours. It's someone else's.
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe.
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge.
Only religions declare heresy; only lies require protection.
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
15 Sep 2023 7:33 pm
BREAKING--Pfizer XBB.1.5 Monovalent Vaccine Tested in 20 Mice, No Control Group, and No Humans.. the new XBB.1.5 monovalent vaccines have been emergency use authorized.
https://petermcculloughmd.substack.com/ ... monovalent
https://petermcculloughmd.substack.com/ ... monovalent
...
15 Sep 2023 7:41 pm
Careful. You might be conspiracy theorying.GeorgeWashington » 15 Sep 2023, 7:33 pm » wrote: ↑ BREAKING--Pfizer XBB.1.5 Monovalent Vaccine Tested in 20 Mice, No Control Group, and No Humans.. the new XBB.1.5 monovalent vaccines have been emergency use authorized.
https://petermcculloughmd.substack.com/ ... monovalent
15 Sep 2023 8:00 pm
CDC confirms COVID-19 vaccine prevents death in only 1 out of 1 million
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/ ... r-AA1gKiHs
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… and that single prevented death falls within the margin of error
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/ ... r-AA1gKiHs
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… and that single prevented death falls within the margin of error
...
16 Sep 2023 6:15 am
"Unvaxxed Tennis Star Wins Moderna’s “Shot Of The Day!”"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhPSFG9svuY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhPSFG9svuY
16 Sep 2023 3:03 pm
Court Orders Facebook To Comply With Subpoena For Data On All Users That Broke “Covid-19 Misinformation” Rules
https://reclaimthenet.org/dc-appeals-co ... nformation
https://reclaimthenet.org/dc-appeals-co ... nformation
...
16 Sep 2023 7:16 pm
Remember that conspiracy theory about US bio labs in Ukraine?
https://www.defense.gov/News/Releases/R ... er-former/
The United States has also worked collaboratively to improve Ukraine’s biological safety, security, and disease surveillance for both human and animal health, providing support to 46 peaceful Ukrainian laboratories, health facilities, and disease diagnostic sites over the last two decades. The collaborative programs have focused on improving public health and agricultural safety measures at the nexus of nonproliferation.
This work, often conducted in partnership with outside organizations, such as the WHO and the World Organization for Animal Health (OIE), has resulted in safer and more effective disease surveillance and detection. Ukrainian scientists have acted consistent with international best practices and norms in publishing research results, partnering with international colleagues and multilateral organizations, and widely distributing their research and public health findings.
https://www.defense.gov/News/Releases/R ... er-former/
The United States has also worked collaboratively to improve Ukraine’s biological safety, security, and disease surveillance for both human and animal health, providing support to 46 peaceful Ukrainian laboratories, health facilities, and disease diagnostic sites over the last two decades. The collaborative programs have focused on improving public health and agricultural safety measures at the nexus of nonproliferation.
This work, often conducted in partnership with outside organizations, such as the WHO and the World Organization for Animal Health (OIE), has resulted in safer and more effective disease surveillance and detection. Ukrainian scientists have acted consistent with international best practices and norms in publishing research results, partnering with international colleagues and multilateral organizations, and widely distributing their research and public health findings.
...
17 Sep 2023 12:28 pm
If you would get those gay eyes fixed, everything wouldn't look so gay!
You can't find any data on all cause excess death rates for the Sept. to Dec. time frames the last 2 years? (2021 & 2022) It doesn't matter what the cause of death was, a death is a death. The question didn't ask how many people the vaccine was going to kill, knucklehead. Use that "some college" and make a wild ***'ed guess.And the question is stupid horse ****.
Every question has one or more imbedded statements. Even "Are you hot" has the imbedded statement that you are either hot or no.
The imbedded claim - an absolute horse **** claim - in your question is that we have sufficient data to predict the upsurge in deaths. And this in the face of ample evidence that much of what got distributed was saline or other inert material. We have no way of saying where the bad stuff went or when it went out - other than to watch. What we DO have is an order of magnitude of excess deaths and no singular event besides the vax to which we might tie those deaths.
The pretense that we have sufficient evidence on which to make predictions is not only ****, but it's bad faith ****. You don't believe it. So why come out of your face with it?
Only pointing out that all cause excess death rates do change from year to year. Yeah, no **** Sherlock, the vaccines weren't invented yet. Someone might wonder what caused those excess deaths that year.
Yet you will turn around and claim it's not from the vax - without manning up and proposing a counter narrative.
The narrative is that there is no supporting evidence (as of yet) to show that the Covid vaccines caused the large increases of excess deaths. Did they add to them? I believe they did.When are you going to do that?
Are you under the impression that asking dishonest, bad-faith questions is proper "pushback"? It isn't. It's lame.
Only the MSM and their dupes run around calling people conspiracy theorists, fake newser. You down with the climate **** and the gender nonsense, too?
What is your counter narrative, Spark? If you don't have one, why are you working your neck about it?
You're assuming anyone but the already injected morons are going to take them. They aren't. Anyone who has resisted the clot shot to this point is going to continue to resist. Only the gays are going to be taking that **** - even the *** are too smart.
You're also assuming they'll put out a round of poison in the same ratio as past rounds of population control clot shots. Maybe they will, maybe they won't. Maybe they'll put out 100% poison or 0%. We are not in charge of anything except saying yes or no to their proven-bad drug.
But since you clearly do not believe the "conspiracy theory," your question is a smarmy cocksuck - not a real question.
I know this is really going to be difficult for some of you high functioning retards, watch this 20 minute video from a respected company who provides data for the medical community.
https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=5 ... O8jkE,st:0
Where are the spikes of excess deaths 2-3 weeks after getting vaccinated? Millions and millions of doses were being administered daily, if the vaccines were killing as much as some people believe it should show in the data over and above normal deaths. IT JUST ISN'T THERE!
17 Sep 2023 2:01 pm
Gosh. In the face of no supporting evidence, Mensa?Fuelman » 17 Sep 2023, 12:28 pm » wrote: ↑ The narrative is that there is no supporting evidence (as of yet) to show that the Covid vaccines caused the large increases of excess deaths. Did they add to them? I believe they did.
"Because I SAY I am" is fallacy, not science
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not your friend
An opinion you won't defend is not yours. It's someone else's.
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe.
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge.
Only religions declare heresy; only lies require protection.
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not your friend
An opinion you won't defend is not yours. It's someone else's.
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe.
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge.
Only religions declare heresy; only lies require protection.
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
17 Sep 2023 2:08 pm
Gotta love this. ^GeorgeWashington » 16 Sep 2023, 3:03 pm » wrote: ↑ Court Orders Facebook To Comply With Subpoena For Data On All Users That Broke “Covid-19 Misinformation” Rules
https://reclaimthenet.org/dc-appeals-co ... nformation
"Because I SAY I am" is fallacy, not science
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not your friend
An opinion you won't defend is not yours. It's someone else's.
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe.
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge.
Only religions declare heresy; only lies require protection.
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not your friend
An opinion you won't defend is not yours. It's someone else's.
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe.
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge.
Only religions declare heresy; only lies require protection.
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
17 Sep 2023 3:58 pm
Official figures published by the UK Government reveal the fully/triple vaccinated population have accounted for over 9 in every 10 Covid-19 deaths in England over the past year
https://expose-news.com/2023/09/16/9-in ... accinated/
https://expose-news.com/2023/09/16/9-in ... accinated/
...
17 Sep 2023 4:43 pm
Any questions, foolman?GeorgeWashington » 17 Sep 2023, 3:58 pm » wrote: ↑ Official figures published by the UK Government reveal the fully/triple vaccinated population have accounted for over 9 in every 10 Covid-19 deaths in England over the past year
https://expose-news.com/2023/09/16/9-in ... accinated/
@Fuelman
"Because I SAY I am" is fallacy, not science
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not your friend
An opinion you won't defend is not yours. It's someone else's.
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe.
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge.
Only religions declare heresy; only lies require protection.
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not your friend
An opinion you won't defend is not yours. It's someone else's.
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe.
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge.
Only religions declare heresy; only lies require protection.
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
18 Sep 2023 9:52 am
Now you are just making **** up, a position often taken by those losing the argument.Cannonpointer » 17 Sep 2023, 2:01 pm » wrote: ↑
That you believe the vax wasn't around in '22 tells us the level of remediation I would have to stoop to in order to get the MSM's hooks out of you.
I take it you didn't like the information in that video.
18 Sep 2023 10:09 am
mkay but how many avoided death by getting the shot? I don’t see that in here nor do I know how they could verify itGeorgeWashington » 17 Sep 2023, 3:58 pm » wrote: ↑ Official figures published by the UK Government reveal the fully/triple vaccinated population have accounted for over 9 in every 10 Covid-19 deaths in England over the past year
https://expose-news.com/2023/09/16/9-in ... accinated/
18 Sep 2023 10:10 am
Where's the rest of the chart? The part which shows how many people the vaccines killed.Cannonpointer » 17 Sep 2023, 4:43 pm » wrote: ↑Any questions, foolman?GeorgeWashington » 17 Sep 2023, 3:58 pm » wrote: ↑ Official figures published by the UK Government reveal the fully/triple vaccinated population have accounted for over 9 in every 10 Covid-19 deaths in England over the past year
https://expose-news.com/2023/09/16/9-in ... accinated/
@Fuelman
Considering the high jab rate in the UK, this chart makes sense. What this chart does show is being vaccinated is no guarantee you will escape death from COVID.
18 Sep 2023 10:29 am
That narrative is not allowed in this thread! The non-vaccine only kills, it doesn't save anyone.
18 Sep 2023 3:26 pm
Zero according to the CDCFuelman » 18 Sep 2023, 10:29 am » wrote: ↑That narrative is not allowed in this thread! The non-vaccine only kills, it doesn't save anyone.
GeorgeWashington » 15 Sep 2023, 8:00 pm » wrote: ↑ CDC confirms COVID-19 vaccine prevents death in only 1 out of 1 million
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/ ... r-AA1gKiHs
—
… and that single prevented death falls within the margin of error
...
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