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Weigh the risks of getting the vaccine, kids
Weigh the risks of getting the vaccine, kids
By GeorgeWashington
15 Jul 2022 12:59 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
11 Dec 2023 4:24 am
1 Million COVID Vaccinated have died in England compared to just 61k Unvaccinated in 2 years; despite 30% of the Population refusing a single dose of the COVID Injection
https://expose-news.com/2023/12/05/deat ... on-deaths/
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11 Dec 2023 5:29 am
11 Dec 2023 5:53 am
Stop ignoring how evolving actually works naturally for one rotation of the planet, please. Your nurtured mind since birth gave away your uniqueness adapting as displaced here now.Cannonpointer » 11 Dec 2023, 12:55 am » wrote: ↑ Considering that they can make an "effective" vaccination on the fly for a novel virus and for a seasonal flu, but HIV is still only "managed" (at great profit) with no vaccine in sight after half a century, I'm gonna stand my ground on this one, pal. When cancer stops GROWING in direct proportion to how much we spend on it, I'll take a fresh gander. Until then, I'll get my medicine from the natural world and continue to consider the pill pushers - well, **** pill pushers.
Discover the Natural World Order before your moment of death your brain is allowed to see what you refused to accept and your choses were to honor society or else. There is a natural World Order human intellect trains the brain of every great great grandchild born in the last 300 - 500 generations so to blame one's own ancestry for what every ancestry doesn't correct instinctively leads to a species just wanting to eliminate each other until extinction arrives.
You wish to believe this a prison planet, make damn sure you understand what controls your sole time adapting as displaced.
11 Dec 2023 12:53 pm
Cannonpointer » 11 Dec 2023, 1:16 am » wrote: ↑ Hell, I know the cure for cancer, son. It's writ large in Holy Writ.
Fasting. Plain and simple. Google autophagy. That's where the body has nothing to eat but itself. REMARKABLY, it doesn't start by eating its own liver or lungs. Or even stored fat - that comes second. First is any happy horse **** that doesn't have an excuse to be there - like, for example, suspicious looking cells that are rapidly growing for no obvious reason.
You open the Bible, and somewhere on one of the two pages you're looking at, it is likely to mention fasting.
You wanna turd cancer? Stop eatin' for a few weeks. Just drink a lot of water and you'll **** that ****.
Skinny people get cancer all the time, too.
Please seat yourself.
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I like the very things you hate.
11 Dec 2023 1:09 pm
I never suggested that fat causes cancer or that skinny is the cure.
I said FASTING is the cure. It works the exact same way for skinny people as it does for fatties and norms.
You CAN be skinny and fast. In fact, skinny people are usually faster that fatties, outside of a Golden Corral.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
11 Dec 2023 1:19 pm
I'm skinny- When I came out of the hospital.. with a huge operation FROM Cancer. 2018
I lost tons of my body weight.! I looked like a joo- from Germany!
Went from 120- down to 80 lbs..... the doctors tried to scare me into chemo. Are you kidding me?
They scared the crap out of all of us that knew me... people I trusted said NO! That was 2018- I wouldn't have lasted a month.! So i did something most people don't do! said NO!
we'll see how it goes. 
11 Dec 2023 2:00 pm
Good for you girl!!! My mother and wife both died not from cancer but the treatment. The chemo ate my mother's brainstem up and she lost the ability to swallow . Radiation killed my wife. Radiation itself can cause cancer.sootedupCyndi » 11 Dec 2023, 2:19 pm » wrote: ↑ I'm skinny- When I came out of the hospital.. with a huge operation FROM Cancer. 2018
I lost tons of my body weight.! I looked like a joo- from Germany!
Went from 120- down to 80 lbs..... the doctors tried to scare me into chemo. Are you kidding me?
They scared the crap out of all of us that knew me... people I trusted said NO! That was 2018- I wouldn't have lasted a month.! So i did something most people don't do! said NO!
11 Dec 2023 5:04 pm
sootedupCyndi » 11 Dec 2023, 2:19 pm » wrote: ↑ I'm skinny- When I came out of the hospital.. with a huge operation FROM Cancer. 2018
I lost tons of my body weight.! I looked like a joo- from Germany!
Went from 120- down to 80 lbs..... the doctors tried to scare me into chemo. Are you kidding me?
They scared the crap out of all of us that knew me... people I trusted said NO! That was 2018- I wouldn't have lasted a month.! So i did something most people don't do! said NO!
I understand.
I wish you well.
Please seat yourself.
I like the very things you hate.
I like the very things you hate.
11 Dec 2023 5:06 pm
Cannonpointer » 11 Dec 2023, 2:09 pm » wrote: ↑ I never suggested that fat causes cancer or that skinny is the cure.
I said FASTING is the cure. It works the exact same way for skinny people as it does for fatties and norms.
You CAN be skinny and fast. In fact, skinny people are usually faster that fatties, outside of a Golden Corral.
Funny thing is about cancer...
Cancer usually doesn't kill them. Starvation coupled with dehydration gets them.
Please seat yourself.
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I like the very things you hate.
11 Dec 2023 5:11 pm
Cancer prevents them from getting their nutrition. Starvation is not from want of food, but of nutrition.DeezerShoove » 11 Dec 2023, 6:06 pm » wrote: ↑ Funny thing is about cancer...
Cancer usually doesn't kill them. Starvation coupled with dehydration gets them.
80% of your body's energy is expended in digestion. You shut down the digestion - takes a couple of days of fasting, - and that entire 80% is freed up for autophagy, which bypasses the digestive process. It DOES make a turd of your cancer, but it does NOT use your body's digestive process to do it.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
11 Dec 2023 10:00 pm
Cannonpointer » 11 Dec 2023, 6:11 pm » wrote: ↑ Cancer prevents them from getting their nutrition. Starvation is not from want of food, but of nutrition.
80% of your body's energy is expended in digestion. You shut down the digestion - takes a couple of days of fasting, - and that entire 80% is freed up for autophagy, which bypasses the digestive process. It DOES make a turd of your cancer, but it does NOT use your body's digestive process to do it.
Tell my mother...
Please seat yourself.
I like the very things you hate.
I like the very things you hate.
12 Dec 2023 12:14 am
That's on you, bro. Some people are fatalistic. Hell, MOST are. There are no guard rails when ya venture out past your primary doctor. Feels risky!
Risk, reward, and catastrophe are inextricably linked. People know this in their DNA. It's only about ten percent of people who are comfortable in the high risk, high reward world.
Tell you this much: There are a number of peer reviewed studies showing chemo WITH fasting beats chemo without. They'll never test JUST fasting - it doesn't make the man money.
Here's a taste: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8190229/
There is a cheat for the trepidatious:Periodic water-only fasting (PF) consists of total food abstinence for several days, in mouse models generally 48–72 h, without limiting hydration. Benefits of PF in preclinical studies include weight loss (during the fasting period but regained after refeeding), improved insulin sensitivity, autophagy activation, cell renewal, and anticancer effects, but safety and compliance concerns may be responsible for the limited contribution of PF to standard medical practice.
The differences between IF (intermittent fasting - generally one meal in each 24 hour window) and PF in mice include the duration and/or frequency: IF cycles usually last up to 24 h and are separated by 24 h of food intake (caloric intake may be higher on the refeeding days to compensate for the reduced calories on the fast days). PF instead lasts 2 or more days and is followed by 1 week of normal food intake to regain normal weight
This is just a hasty google - not an example of the studies showing that fasting improves chemo-efficacy. Those are available if you search - but this hoogle simply alerts you that there is an enormous body of evidence and study for the efficacy of fasting in general. I would only add that the Good Book is, among many other things, an urgent exhortation that people OUGHT TO FAST FOR THEIR WELLBEING.Fasting-mimicking diets (FMDs) were developed to address the safety concerns associated with PF, such as low rates of compliance and malnourishment. FMDs—developed to be a short-term intervention that is low in protein, high in healthy fats, and containing complex carbohydrates, as well as essential vitamins and minerals—mimic the effects of fasting by decreasing insulin/glucose signaling pathway activation, while avoiding the potential side effects of lack of essential nutrients
In mice, the FMD extends median lifespan, reduces inflammation and cancer incidence, enhances cognitive performance, and improves overall health. In a randomized crossover clinical trial, the FMD reduced risk factors for metabolic syndrome, cardiovascular diseases, cancer, and aging.
Additionally, and similar to other periodic fasting and meal-timing interventions, the consumption periods between the interventions can be modulated based on specific nutrition requirements, for example, an increase in protein intake to reduce the aging-associated loss of lean mass in the elderly
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
12 Dec 2023 7:19 am
I am not arguing the point at all. And I don't follow my doctor's "advice" when it makes no sense.Cannonpointer » 12 Dec 2023, 1:14 am » wrote: ↑ That's on you, bro. Some people are fatalistic. Hell, MOST are. There are no guard rails when ya venture out past your primary doctor. Feels risky!
Risk, reward, and catastrophe are inextricably linked. People know this in their DNA. It's only about ten percent of people who are comfortable in the high risk, high reward world.
Tell you this much: There are a number of peer reviewed studies showing chemo WITH fasting beats chemo without. They'll never test JUST fasting - it doesn't make the man money.
Here's a taste: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8190229/
There is a cheat for the trepidatious:
This is just a hasty google - not an example of the studies showing that fasting improves chemo-efficacy. Those are available if you search - but this hoogle simply alerts you that there is an enormous body of evidence and study for the efficacy of fasting in general. I would only add that the Good Book is, among many other things, an urgent exhortation that people OUGHT TO FAST FOR THEIR WELLBEING.
The Vax was a political mess. Don't need to get into that **** again.
Chemo is merely a targeted (as best they can) poisoning of the body in hopes that the cancerous invaders fare way worse than your body's normal cells.
When your body passes through the gauntlet and the cancer does not, you win.
Fasting forces the body to "make decisions" in a similar vein, to address your point.
Probably way better than any chemo poisoning ever will.
I read long ago that a severe diet (fasting too much for example) can unload toxins from the fatty deposits in your body at a detrimental rate. Makes sense, I guess. Intermittent fasting can mitigate those effects. Like squeezing all the tar and meth out of the sponge at a tolerable rate.
Please seat yourself.
I like the very things you hate.
I like the very things you hate.
12 Dec 2023 12:20 pm
Just to be clear, it is not YOUR comfort with doing your own investigations that is being discussed. It's your mom's.DeezerShoove » 12 Dec 2023, 8:19 am » wrote: ↑ I am not arguing the point at all. And I don't follow my doctor's "advice" when it makes no sense.
The Vax was a political mess. Don't need to get into that **** again.
Chemo is merely a targeted (as best they can) poisoning of the body in hopes that the cancerous invaders fare way worse than your body's normal cells.
When your body passes through the gauntlet and the cancer does not, you win.
Fasting forces the body to "make decisions" in a similar vein, to address your point.
Probably way better than any chemo poisoning ever will.
I read long ago that a severe diet (fasting too much for example) can unload toxins from the fatty deposits in your body at a detrimental rate. Makes sense, I guess. Intermittent fasting can mitigate those effects. Like squeezing all the tar and meth out of the sponge at a tolerable rate.
Wow. I think that was the first time I ever talked about someone's mom on this board. Too many people have thin skin. Especially that hor's son old mack finger.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
12 Dec 2023 3:14 pm
+1Cannonpointer » 11 Dec 2023, 12:55 am » wrote: ↑ Considering that they can make an "effective" vaccination on the fly for a novel virus and for a seasonal flu, but HIV is still only "managed" (at great profit) with no vaccine in sight after half a century, I'm gonna stand my ground on this one, pal. When cancer stops GROWING in direct proportion to how much we spend on it, I'll take a fresh gander. Until then, I'll get my medicine from the natural world and continue to consider the pill pushers - well, **** pill pushers.
I fired my “traditional” MD general practitioner in strong favor of an outstanding “alternative” medicine MD and feel much healthier. All natural supplements no side effects. Went from 3 meds down to 1.
I too have started fasting 6 mos. ago and as a matter of permanent lifestyle eat 1 meal a day…intermittent fasting on the fly.
12 Dec 2023 3:18 pm
I don't know what the current literature says, but all things being equal. I believe that lifestyle will see you living not just better, but longer, as well.Tempest62 » 12 Dec 2023, 4:14 pm » wrote: ↑ +1
I fired my “traditional” MD general practitioner in strong favor of an outstanding “alternative” medicine MD and feel much healthier. All natural supplements no side effects. Went from 3 meds down to 1.
I too have started fasting 6 mos. ago and as a matter of permanent lifestyle eat 1 meal a day.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
12 Dec 2023 6:07 pm
Cannonpointer » 12 Dec 2023, 1:20 pm » wrote: ↑ Just to be clear, it is not YOUR comfort with doing your own investigations that is being discussed. It's your mom's.
Wow. I think that was the first time I ever talked about someone's mom on this board. Too many people have thin skin. Especially that hor's son old mack finger.
I think we've verbally swatted each other's parents around enough to be brothers.
Our little friend has this to say after I invited him to pleasure himself:
Now, I can't blame him for wanting to get know my family but a peck on the cheek would suffice.
Please seat yourself.
I like the very things you hate.
I like the very things you hate.
12 Dec 2023 6:09 pm
What the **** is with that little goon's avatar?DeezerShoove » 12 Dec 2023, 7:07 pm » wrote: ↑ I think we've verbally swatted each other's parents around enough to be brothers.
Our little friend has this to say after I invited him to pleasure himself:
Now, I can't blame him for wanting to get know my family but a peck on the cheek would suffice.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
12 Dec 2023 8:14 pm
You aren't a Fatty Chaser I take it.
There's enough there for all the Pushin' Cushion and Roll Her in Flour jokes.
Murdock likes to display her wares too. Yum...
Please seat yourself.
I like the very things you hate.
I like the very things you hate.
13 Dec 2023 10:23 am
The glycolytic enzyme lactate dehydrogenase A (LDHA) is frequently overexpressed in cancer, which promotes glycolysis and cancer.Cannonpointer » 11 Dec 2023, 1:16 am » wrote: ↑Hell, I know the cure for cancer, son. It's writ large in Holy Writ.DeezerShoove » 11 Dec 2023, 1:03 am » wrote: ↑ The machinations behind the scene in research medicine aren't too secret among the people involved.
If there was a secret cure for ****, it seems like it would be tough to hide a biggie like cancer.
But who knows? Not I.
Like I said, I don't get religious about the for or against concerning this stuff.
I'm kinda grayish marble... Not black and white.
There are agendas, no doubt. That much I will readily give you.
Fasting. Plain and simple. Google autophagy. That's where the body has nothing to eat but itself. REMARKABLY, it doesn't start by eating its own liver or lungs. Or even stored fat - that comes second. First is any happy horse **** that doesn't have an excuse to be there - like, for example, suspicious looking cells that are rapidly growing for no obvious reason.
You open the Bible, and somewhere on one of the two pages you're looking at, it is likely to mention fasting.
You wanna turd cancer? Stop eatin' for a few weeks. Just drink a lot of water and you'll **** that ****.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36536137/
Simultaneously, it caused mitochondrial translocation of p53 and effectively inhibited glucose uptake, expression of GLUT transporters as well as hexokinase (HK II) – a key glycolytic enzyme that most cancer cells thrive on.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6085345/
As discussed earlier, the reliance of cancer cells on the glycolytic pathway for their energy needs has been known for decades and has even been successfully exploited diagnostically (FDG-PET imaging) for many years.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4223729/
After fasting for around 24 hours, glycogen stores are depleted causing the body to utilize energy stores from adipose tissue and protein stores.[5]
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK5 ... %20muscle.
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