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sootedupCyndi » 02 Feb 2024, 1:05 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Feb 2024, 1:05 pm

Nope- i have never met one worth a sheet. The last one I had- before this one.. We had an understanding.. You leave me alone and i'll leave you alone. Then he retired.. and the sheet hit the fan.  I'd luv to tell them off down there- but that goes on your permanent record. I've already been labeled a bad patient. snicker.

Bad patient…my guess it’s because you ask questions and don’t accept every word of theirs as gospel. In other words, you’re a free thinking human that doesn’t put up with federally approved establishment medicine steeped in corruption and dedicated in keeping you sick.
 

Stays away from "doctors."

JAE » 02 Feb 2024, 7:17 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Feb 2024, 7:17 pm

Stays away from "doctors."

JAE » 56 minutes ago » wrote: ↑
56 minutes ago
You should do it because you favor it.  Stop demanding others pay.

Because I favor what...?
Tell me what it is that you think I favor. you cowardly, question dodging piece of ****...? 
I will wait right here for your reply.      
 

Tempest62 » 01 Feb 2024, 9:03 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Feb 2024, 9:03 pm

I hear that. Good stuff you do there. 9 days like that is very tough! Very impressive, takes hellish discipline.

I fired my regular so called MD, and see an alternative MD. EDTA chelation therapy, an array of natural supplements, cut 2 of 3 pharmaceuticals out…. I do strict intermittent fasting (1 meal a day that’s it, with 20-22 hrs no eating) for 6 mos and will stay as a matter of living.

That is all quite excellent. Look for a Naturopath if you haven't already. Mine sends my hair to a lab for a full spectrum analysis, and he gives me a full report, along with recommendations for supplements and chelation. It sounds like maybe you already have a naturopath, given that you're working with chelation and supplements.

Is there a timeline to get you off that final pharmaceutical?
 

Cannonpointer » 03 Feb 2024, 11:41 am » wrote: ↑

03 Feb 2024, 11:41 am

That is all quite excellent. Look for a Naturopath if you haven't already. Mine sends my hair to a lab for a full spectrum analysis, and he gives me a full report, along with recommendations for supplements and chelation. It sounds like maybe you already have a naturopath, given that you're working with chelation and supplements.

Is there a timeline to get you off that final pharmaceutical?

Thank you. He’s an alternative medicine MD. Small office of 3. Has tons of patients most are middle to older age who properly learned to be disillusioned with traditional only MD’s. The Covid response really woke them up as the final straw.

No timeline, it’s up to me. I even have his 2 recommended natural supplements to replace the last pharma when I’m ready. I’m not sure if I’m ready yet.  

https://twitter.com/dragonfishy/status/ ... 1930450944
 

GeorgeWashington » 03 Feb 2024, 11:51 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Feb 2024, 11:51 pm

https://twitter.com/dragonfishy/status/ ... 1930450944

Page 494 (also very interesting):

"Children under 18 are 51 times more likely to die from the mRNA vaccines than from COVID-19 if unvaccinated.
Young adults in the age range of 18 to 29 are eight times more likely to die from vaccination than from COVID-19.
Adults from 30 to 39 are 7 times more likely to die from vaccination and those aged 40 to 49 are 5 times more likely to die after vaccination.
People in the group aged 50 to 59 are still twice as likely to die after vaccination than after COVID-19.
Only when over 60 years of age is the chance of death equal for both causes. Even when over 80 years old the likelihood of dying from Covid inoculation is just 0.13% lower than the risk of dying from the infection.

The authors concluded that the protection from COVID-19 death falls far short of the risk of dying from the vaccine for people below 50 years old [51].
According to Kostoff [52] the number of deaths attributable to each inoculation is five times higher in the most vulnerable 65+ demographic than deaths attributable to COVID–19. With decreasing age, the risk of death from COVID-19 decreases drastically. Combined with the longer-term effects of the inoculations, most of which are still unknown, this increases the risk-benefit ratio, perhaps substantially, in the lower age groups."
 

GeorgeWashington » 03 Feb 2024, 11:51 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Feb 2024, 11:51 pm

https://twitter.com/dragonfishy/status/ ... 1930450944

Uh oh 

mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines Caused More Deaths Than Saved: Study
Researchers called for a ‘global moratorium’ as the study revealed ‘well-documented’ serious adverse events and an unacceptable harm-to-reward ratio.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/health/fo ... whatfinger

GeorgeWashington » 15 Jul 2022, 12:59 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Jul 2022, 12:59 pm

https://mobile.twitter.com/Roman_Baber/ ... 4648953856
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Adverse effects of COVID-19 vaccines and measures to prevent them

The study showed that immune function among vaccinated individuals 8 months after the administration of two doses of COVID-19 vaccine was lower than that among the unvaccinated individuals. According to European Medicines Agency recommendations, frequent COVID-19 booster shots could adversely affect the immune response and may not be feasible. The decrease in immunity can be caused by several factors such as N1-methylpseudouridine, the spike protein, lipid nanoparticles, antibody-dependent enhancement, and the original antigenic stimulus. These clinical alterations may explain the association reported between COVID-19 vaccination and shingles. As a safety measure, further booster vaccinations should be discontinued. In addition, the date of vaccination should be recorded in the medical record of patients.

https://virologyj.biomedcentral.com/art ... 22-01831-0

Go to 3 min., 40 sec. in:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNTLtexVkCI
 

Tempest62 » 02 Feb 2024, 12:56 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Feb 2024, 12:56 pm

Terrible. The entire office is a failure, most assuredly the doctor. A feeble 76 lb. vegan gives it all away. He did no research, only followed the company line. You made the right decision to leave and never look pack. Kudos to you! Have you found a real MD since then?

Veganism is a fad diet. There is no history of it ever working to keep people healthy. Even vegetarianism is MOSTLY a fad diet. There is only one population in the history of the planet to embrace vegetarianism and sustain themselves for centuries in good health, and that population is a very wealthy subset of the larger population of India known as the Brahmins. The Brahmins are vegetarians, yes - but they are ovo-lacto-vegetarians. And that is an important distinction.

Another important distinction is that the Brahmins have sufficient resources to hire servants. Even with eggs and dairy in the mix, vegetarianism requires labor to be healthy. It takes some work, some processing, to get the nutrition you need without meat - even when you have the animal proteins afforded by milk and eggs. 

Veganism? That is a whole other thing. No history, no science (save pseudo-), no positive results to show. Vegans are very often quite sallow in my experience - and those that are not tend to be quite fat. Many are both. I have never met a vegan who displayed vibrant health or personal magnetism. 

I consider vegans to be pretty stupid and reckless and lacking good sense. 
 

sootedupCyndi » 02 Feb 2024, 1:05 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Feb 2024, 1:05 pm

Nope- i have never met one worth a sheet. The last one I had- before this one.. We had an understanding.. You leave me alone and i'll leave you alone. Then he retired.. and the sheet hit the fan.  I'd luv to tell them off down there- but that goes on your permanent record. I've already been labeled a bad patient. snicker.

Find a naturopath. 
 

A 1000-link strong CLEARING HOUSE of peer reviewed vaccine death and mayhem:

https://www.saveusnow.org.uk/covid-vacc ... of-lethal/

Cannonpointer » 06 Feb 2024, 11:48 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Feb 2024, 11:48 pm

A 1000-link strong CLEARING HOUSE of peer reviewed vaccine death and mayhem:

https://www.saveusnow.org.uk/covid-vacc ... of-lethal/

@maineman  

Majik » 07 Feb 2024, 12:07 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Feb 2024, 12:07 pm

@maineman

He is not interested in the science. It's the politics that has him captive. Rachael Maddow is his advisor - he will defend HER view of medicine, as it is the politically CORRECT view of medicine. 

If a man doesn't have a team, what HAS he got?

Cannonpointer » 06 Feb 2024, 11:48 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Feb 2024, 11:48 pm

A 1000-link strong CLEARING HOUSE of peer reviewed vaccine death and mayhem:

https://www.saveusnow.org.uk/covid-vacc ... of-lethal/

This beauty should be singularly pinned at the top of the forum and not buried in this thread.
 

Cannonpointer » 07 Feb 2024, 12:10 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Feb 2024, 12:10 pm

He is not interested in the science. It's the politics that has him captive. Rachael Maddow is his advisor - he will defend HER view of medicine, as it is the politically CORRECT view of medicine. 

If a man doesn't have a team, what HAS he got?

1000 links.

peer reviewed.

I opened one at random, and it was a long report detailing allergic reactions to the COVID vaccine by seven people.  7 people.  7.

Long before that - years ago - I went to my PCP, who just so happens to be a former Navy doctor.  We never served together but did have several mutual acquaintances.  I trust him with my health.  I asked him about all of the information and misinformation swirling around about the COVID vaccine and, straight up asked him if it was safe.  He told me it was, and he told me that he, his wife, and all his children were vaccinated,  I believed him.  I still do.  I don't listen to Rachel Maddow and I certainly would never get medical advice from her.  I do from my own doctor.

https://www.muhealth.org/our-stories/sc ... -they-seem
https://www.mskcc.org/coronavirus/covid-19-vaccine
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-con ... t-20484859
https://healthy.kaiserpermanente.org/he ... -effective
https://www.mayoclinichealthsystem.org/ ... s-debunked

Here's what I know:  

I know my government tells me the vaccine is safe.  I know My doctor tells me the vaccine is safe.  Sloane Kettering says the vaccine is safe.  Kaiser Permanente says the vaccine is safe. The Mayo Clinic tells me the vaccine is safe.  

I have had every COVID shot and booster since they first came out.  So has my wife.  So have all three of my children and all three of their spouses/fiancés.  So have all of my still surviving company-mates from my graduating class at Annapolis, along with all of their spouses.  Of that entire group, only a handful have tested positive for COVID, and of those, none were even hospitalized, suffering nothing worse than a bad cold.  

In my extended family, I know of  one nephew and two cousins once removed who refused to be vaccinated.  The nephew has never tested positive for COVID, the two cousins once removed both caught COVID and both are dead from COVID leaving two widows and seven grieving children behind (all of whom had been vaccinated for COVID, btw).  One of them, who was a hardcore MAGA man, told his Mom, my cousin, right before they put the ventilator mask over his face that they only removed when he had breathed his last, that he thought he might have made a mistake by not getting vaccinated.  DUH!

You'll forgive me if I choose to forego reading any more studies about seven folks dying from allergic reactions to COVID vaccines and start acting like Chicken Little.  I'll leave that to you and @Majik  

maineman » 07 Feb 2024, 8:48 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Feb 2024, 8:48 pm

1000 links.

peer reviewed.

I opened one at random, and it was a long report detailing allergic reactions to the COVID vaccine by seven people.  7 people.  7.

Long before that - years ago - I went to my PCP, who just so happens to be a former Navy doctor.  We never served together but did have several mutual acquaintances.  I trust him with my health.  I asked him about all of the information and misinformation swirling around about the COVID vaccine and, straight up asked him if it was safe.  He told me it was, and he told me that he, his wife, and all his children were vaccinated,  I believed him.  I still do.  I don't listen to Rachel Maddow and I certainly would never get medical advice from her.  I do from my own doctor.

https://www.muhealth.org/our-stories/sc ... -they-seem
https://www.mskcc.org/coronavirus/covid-19-vaccine
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-con ... t-20484859
https://healthy.kaiserpermanente.org/he ... -effective
https://www.mayoclinichealthsystem.org/ ... s-debunked

Here's what I know:  

I know my government tells me the vaccine is safe.  I know My doctor tells me the vaccine is safe.  Sloane Kettering says the vaccine is safe.  Kaiser Permanente says the vaccine is safe. The Mayo Clinic tells me the vaccine is safe.  

I have had every COVID shot and booster since they first came out.  So has my wife.  So have all three of my children and all three of their spouses/fiancés.  So have all of my still surviving company-mates from my graduating class at Annapolis, along with all of their spouses.  Of that entire group, only a handful have tested positive for COVID, and of those, none were even hospitalized, suffering nothing worse than a bad cold.  

In my extended family, I know of  one nephew and two cousins once removed who refused to be vaccinated.  The nephew has never tested positive for COVID, the two cousins once removed both caught COVID and both are dead from COVID leaving two widows and seven grieving children behind (all of whom had been vaccinated for COVID, btw).  One of them, who was a hardcore MAGA man, told his Mom, my cousin, right before they put the ventilator mask over his face that they only removed when he had breathed his last, that he thought he might have made a mistake by not getting vaccinated.  DUH!

You'll forgive me if I choose to forego reading any more studies about seven folks dying from allergic reactions to COVID vaccines and start acting like Chicken Little.  I'll leave that to you and @Majik

What underlying issues did the nephews have?   Were they obese?

BuckNaked » 07 Feb 2024, 8:50 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Feb 2024, 8:50 pm

What underlying issues did the nephews have?   Were they obese?

My nephew did not catch COVID.

maineman » 07 Feb 2024, 8:48 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Feb 2024, 8:48 pm

1000 links.

peer reviewed.

I opened one at random, and it was a long report detailing allergic reactions to the COVID vaccine by seven people.  7 people.  7.

That's why there are a thousand. This is granular - real people's real experiences. 

maineman » 07 Feb 2024, 8:48 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Feb 2024, 8:48 pm

Long before that - years ago - I went to my PCP, who just so happens to be a former Navy doctor.  We never served together but did have several mutual acquaintances.  I trust him with my health.  I asked him about all of the information and misinformation swirling around about the COVID vaccine and, straight up asked him if it was safe.  He told me it was, and he told me that he, his wife, and all his children were vaccinated,  I believed him.  I still do.

Good for you, Pookie.

My experience varied. I read yours - show me that same courtesy.

I have never had a flu shot in my life - OR the flu, in my adult life. My blood work is phenomenal, and the last time I went for a physical, the doc told me that my BP would qualify me for the space program. I was a feral child and stepped on 9 nails before my 9th birthday. I was raised around chickens and cattle and cats and dogs and horses and even a monkey. I lived my childhood outdoors, venturing in to eat and to sleep. My immune system has served me beautifully. I believe my childhood outdoors made me strong.

It was perfectly in keeping with my life's trajectory that I would decline a shot for a virus - even if it had gone through the rigors of proper testing, and was not an experiment. Legally, ethically, and scientifically, the vax you took is an experiment - nothing more.

I declined - and I was vilified and demonized and threatened with not being able to buy and sell. People YOU support were behind it. I carry a grudge.

maineman » 07 Feb 2024, 8:48 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Feb 2024, 8:48 pm

Here's what I know:  

I know my government tells me the vaccine is safe.  I know My doctor tells me the vaccine is safe.  Sloane Kettering says the vaccine is safe.  Kaiser Permanente says the vaccine is safe. The Mayo Clinic tells me the vaccine is safe.

So take the vaccine. But live by the false credo which your side once pretended to believe: My body, my choice.

maineman » 07 Feb 2024, 8:48 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Feb 2024, 8:48 pm

I have had every COVID shot and booster since they first came out.  So has my wife.  So have all three of my children and all three of their spouses/fiancés.  So have all of my still surviving company-mates from my graduating class at Annapolis, along with all of their spouses.  Of that entire group, only a handful have tested positive for COVID, and of those, none were even hospitalized, suffering nothing worse than a bad cold.

As the planet spins through space and turns on its axis, new information about the safety and efficacy of the vax will continue coming in - it IS an experiment, after all.

You are sanguine with the establishment - I am not. I am not trying to force you NOT to vax. I am objecting to you - or those you ride with, outlaw - violating my human rights under the geneva conventions against being compelled or coerced to participate in a medical experiment.

You swore an oath to the Constitution, which makes our treaties law of the land. Anyone placing any burden on anyone else for not participating in medical experiments belongs behind bars.

maineman » 07 Feb 2024, 8:48 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Feb 2024, 8:48 pm

my cousin, right before they put the ventilator mask over his face

The ventilator was the means.

The crime was murder.

You'll excuse ME for trusting the science, for trusting my immune system, and for not being a willing lab rat.