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Cannonpointer » 22 Jan 2023, 7:44 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jan 2023, 7:44 pm

I would just remind you that of the folks who vex you in this debate, on one side there are actual criminals who tried to control the bodies of fellow citizens and undeniably committed crimes against their humanity as defined by the nuremberg code, and on the other side are abuse survivors. 

If you were vexed at two groups of people, one of whom were rape victims and the other of whom had committed those rapes, I suspect even least sophisticated and nuanced observer would detect less annoyance at one group than the other, and less apparent equivalencying.

Oh, I think you know my persona enough to know they are not off the hook.
The Big Machine and their support mechanism. I could never let that go.

That whole apparatus should go straight to hell (should it exist). So, the people that could be analogous
to your rape victims are both all the people that ever contracted The Disease AND the vaxxed.

I'm of the mind that NONE of this should have happened, a bio-weapon and subsequent CYA dubious vax.
...and this will eventually "get" everyone. The virus is permanently here on Earth.
The Big Machine is still chugging along nicely.
Supported by politicians, pharma, local doctors, educators, and John Q *******.
All those supporters are still chirping away.

Those people are "the opposition" at this point. I'm with your Jimmy Dores of the world essentially.  

To beat my dead horse again: I just hate to see what we both consider victims fight among ourselves.
That's why I don't need people on soapboxes trying to shame, yell "shoulda, woulda", act pretend superior, etc.

Something like that...

 
 

DeezerShoove » 22 Jan 2023, 8:03 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jan 2023, 8:03 pm

Oh, I think you know my persona enough to know they are not off the hook.
The Big Machine and their support mechanism. I could never let that go.

That whole apparatus should go straight to hell (should it exist). So, the people that 
could be analogous to your rape victims are both all the people that ever contracted The Disease
along with the vaxxed.
I'm of the mind that NONE of this should have happened, a bio-weapon and subsequent CYA dubious vax.
...and this will eventually "get" everyone. The virus is permanently here on Earth.
The Big Machine is still chugging along nicely. Politicians, pharma, local doctors, educators, and John Q *******.
All those supporters are still chirping away.

Those people are "the opposition" at this point. I'm with your Jimmy Dores of the world essentially.  

To beat my dead horse again: I just hate to see what we both consider victims fight among ourselves.
That's why I don't need people on soapboxes trying to shame, yell "shoulda, woulda", act pretend superior, etc.

Something like that...

I GET it, and I won't confute it, as I agree with it.

THAT SAID, we have the criminally behaving covidian cult vs. the people they tried to coerce, control, and cancel. Niel Denig Tyson said we should be made homeless and forced to live on a beach.  And those whom they persecuted are a little **** jumpy. I apologise that those whose free will and body autonomy was viciously under attack for years are a bit chihuahua-ish (myself pertimes among them). Will you next ask jews to stop sniveling about the holocaust?

PS I will - smirk.
 
 

Cannonpointer » 22 Jan 2023, 8:08 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jan 2023, 8:08 pm

I GET it, and I won't confute it, as I agree with it.

THAT SAID, we have the criminally behaving covidian cult vs. the people they tried to coerce, control, and cancel. Niel Denig Tyson said we should be made homeless and forced to live on a beach.  And those whom they persecuted are a little **** jumpy. I apologise that those whose free will and body autonomy was viciously under attack for years are a bit chihuahua-ish (myself pertimes among them). Will you next ask jews to stop sniveling about the holocaust?

PS I will - smirk.

Is that how you spell his middle name? huh...
If he's so smart then why won't he explain the medical reason, scientific reason for the research that loosed this crap on the world?
Have you heard the reason it was pursued? I admit I actually haven't seen that.
Just the denials of gain-of-function...blah, blah, blah.
--
My views on "the entertainment industry" (wink, wink) have changed over the years.
I look for phrases bordering on "we all know" and lose interest now.
 

https://rumble.com/embed/v1ys2g4/?pub=4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=+

https://jamescintolo.substack.com/p/100 ... mrna-covid

"100% Of Kids 14-16 With mRNA COVID Vaccine Induced Myocarditis Had Damaged Hearts At 3-6 Month Follow Up | COVID Vaccines Linked To A 145-Times Increase In Reports Of Menstrual Abnormalities | ETC
Dec 31, 2022

Important data was published over the past 24-hour most people were not made aware of. That was mainly because the media had buried it, and “medical experts” refused to report on it.To explain, 2 new bombshell studies recently surfaced. One indicated 100% of kids with mRNA COVID vaccine myocarditis had meaningful heart damage after 3-6 month follow up with their medical doctors — that evidenced by LGE on MRI cardiac screenings and more. Next, authors Thorp et al found that US COVID vaccine administration was linked to a 145-times increase in reports of menstrual abnormalities and other problems with pregnant women."
 Yet another brand new study of kids aged 14-16 diagnosed with mRNA COVID vaccine associated myocarditis found:

• 77.7% abnormal ECG findings (ST-elevation most common).
• LGE on 88.8% of MRIs.
• 55.5% myocardial edoema (excess fluid).
• 100% LGE present at 3-6 month follow up.

The infection fatality rate of COVID-19 for those aged 0-19 documented by Pezzullo et al was 0.0003% while the risk of myocarditis from mRNA vaccination was found to be 1/2000-1/3000. The benefits do not outweigh the risks. Stop the shots.SOURCE:

1. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/23744235.2022.2157478?role=tab&scroll=top&needAccess=true&journalCode=infd20
2. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 22280963v1

We can pray this isn't true.
Vaccine-Induced Myocarditis in Children May Have 50% Fatality Rate in Five Years

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIgyB3R8qic

Statistics from Europe. Sounds like they have skeptics too.

Excerpts from Irish Times:

"When US soccer journalist Grant Wahl died at the age of 49 at the World Cup last December, his demise was instantly co-opted on social media for a now familiar narrative.Within hours, online conspiracy theorists were blaming his death on the Covid-19 vaccine, despite the absence of any evidence. An autopsy showed his death was due to an aortic aneurysm, an unrelated condition.
Wahl’s case is the latest controversy in which premature deaths have been linked to Covid vaccines. When someone prominent dies at a premature age, the hashtag #DiedSuddenly starts trending on Twitter."

"Since they were developed, more than 13 billion vaccine doses have been administered to 70 per cent of the world’s population. They have taken the sting out of the Covid threat and saved millions of lives; an estimated 20 million alone in the first year they were available. But as the pandemic has receded, milder Covid variants have become dominant and vaccine fatigue has set in, critics have stepped up their attacks."

“As stated in the product information for the mRNA vaccines, myocarditis and pericarditis are known but very rare potential side effects [ie, up to one in 10,000 vaccinated individuals may be affected].”

"While investigations are continuing to fill in the knowledge gaps around vaccines, amid some concerns over the lack of an evidence base, data shows the risk from Covid greatly exceeds anything posed by vaccines. In England and Wales, for example, more than 160,000 deaths have been registered as being caused by Covid since the start of the pandemic, against 52 registered as caused by a Covid vaccine."

https://www.irishtimes.com/health/2023/ ... ures-show/
 
 
 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y40Llr4BH4w

GeorgeWashington » 15 Jul 2022, 12:59 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Jul 2022, 12:59 pm

Weigh the risks of getting the vaccine, kids

Have you seen the anti-vax crisis actors claiming that they are having seizures as a result of taking the vaccine?

https://twitter.com/bobclendenin/status ... waFRA&s=19

 
 

Misty » 23 Jan 2023, 10:54 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Jan 2023, 10:54 pm

Have you seen the anti-vax crisis actors claiming that they are having seizures as a result of taking the vaccine?

Not to my knowledge, and CERTAINLY not from your link, which showed one guy for five seconds.

What interest group are these alleged crisis actors serving? Big Ivermectin?

Who pays these crisis actors for their dog and pony shows?

And can you link us to a few of their little shows? I saw ONE GUY with the shakes. He never said a word about how he got the shakes. For all I know the post was sarcasm - cruel parody of suffering victims. What is his CLAIM? It was just a guy exhibiting shakes - no claims made for or against ANYTHING.

If he IS a paid crisis actor, could he possibly be an agent of pig farma - the people WITH MONEY and with a VESTED INTEREST? The people who are currently providing YOU with information, for free? Could he have been hired to defame and debunk sick people?

Unless you can tell us who PAYS these crisis actors, and why - and for that matter, prove they even exist, - your claim is utter rubbish.  

 
 

I see the FDA is now going to push an annual jab...another flu shot...

Misty » 23 Jan 2023, 10:54 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Jan 2023, 10:54 pm

GeorgeWashington » 15 Jul 2022, 12:59 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Jul 2022, 12:59 pm

Weigh the risks of getting the vaccine, kids

Have you seen the anti-vax crisis actors claiming that they are having seizures as a result of taking the vaccine?
 

I have not... Can you show me one?

Cannonpointer » 23 Jan 2023, 11:23 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Jan 2023, 11:23 pm

Misty » 23 Jan 2023, 10:54 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Jan 2023, 10:54 pm

Have you seen the anti-vax crisis actors claiming that they are having seizures as a result of taking the vaccine?

Not to my knowledge, and CERTAINLY not from your link, which showed one guy for five seconds.

These phonies are getting mercilessly mocked on Twitter.
Go to Twitter and type in 'vaccine seizures' in the search box and see for yourself.
Apparently all of the fake seizure videos include a link to a GoFundMe page.


 
 
 
 

GeorgeWashington » 24 Jan 2023, 2:03 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Jan 2023, 2:03 pm

Misty » 23 Jan 2023, 10:54 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Jan 2023, 10:54 pm

Have you seen the anti-vax crisis actors claiming that they are having seizures as a result of taking the vaccine?

I have not... Can you show me one?

I already did.

https://twitter.com/gorskon/status/1617 ... ygoZw&s=19
 
 

Misty » 24 Jan 2023, 7:33 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Jan 2023, 7:33 pm

These phonies are getting mercilessly mocked on Twitter.
Go to Twitter and type in 'vaccine seizures' in the search box and see for yourself.
Apparently all of the fake seizure videos include a link to a GoFundMe page.


 

I don't go to twitter. I post here.

That the scum you abet mock vax victims comes as no surprise. You people want to chop up children, pretending those too young to work are old enough to have sexual agency. You want to call their molesters by politically correct names like "minor attracted persons" and allow them to hold recruitment meetings/planning sessions in the name of "dealing with their sexual orientation."

There is no end to the evil you endorse - up to and including mocking people for being sick. 
 

Misty » 24 Jan 2023, 7:36 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Jan 2023, 7:36 pm

GeorgeWashington » 24 Jan 2023, 2:03 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Jan 2023, 2:03 pm

I have not... Can you show me one?

I already did.

No, you did not show us a crisis actor.  You showed us a guy mocking people claiming to have been injured by the vax. 

https://mobile.twitter.com/bobclendenin ... 1445986307
 

Cannonpointer » 25 Jan 2023, 1:01 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jan 2023, 1:01 am

I don't go to twitter. I post here.

That the scum you abet mock vax victims comes as no surprise. You people want to chop up children, pretending those too young to work are old enough to have sexual agency. You want to call their molesters by politically correct names like "minor attracted persons" and allow them to hold recruitment meetings/planning sessions in the name of "dealing with their sexual orientation."

There is no end to the evil you endorse - up to and including mocking people for being sick.

there's 6 more LFN bucks for ya... @sooted up Cyndi  and I are on a mission to get you over the $1,000,000 mark...no more doling out those bucks...

ROG62 » 25 Jan 2023, 10:12 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jan 2023, 10:12 am

there's 6 more LFN bucks for ya... @sooted up Cyndi  and I are on a mission to get you over the $1,000,000 mark...no more doling out those bucks...

God bless the two of you. But the board won't let me hit a billion. 

Not that I have tried any kind of chicanery, mind you. I EARNED every rep point that I have. 

But I asked on behalf of a friend, just out of idle curiosity, and ronjul said the board maxed out at less than a billion.     

Cannonpointer » 26 Jan 2023, 12:01 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2023, 12:01 am

God bless the two of you. But the board won't let me hit a billion. 

Not that I have tried any kind of chicanery, mind you. I EARNED every rep point that I have. 

But I asked on behalf of a friend, just out of idle curiosity, and ronjul said the board maxed out at less than a billion.   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywlpArNWKxM