I would say the thinking doesn't get much more simple.DeezerShoove » 16 Jul 2022, 5:43 pm » wrote: ↑ Plundering IS a "benefit"... That's what plunder is all about.
The consequences could be minimal, could be terrible. That's what people get confused about.
The perception is clouded because I see it as "our tax dollars at work" on some level.
We give away lots of **** to the world, we get to take some **** back from the world.
I believe the thinking doesn't get much more complicated than that . . .
Cannonpointer » 16 Jul 2022, 5:49 pm » wrote: ↑ Except that we are not the beneficiaries of the plunder. We are likewise plundered, ourselves.
Look about you. Tent **** cities. Slums.
Oh, you can say - that's because they're druggies. They behave badly. But introducing them to drugs as children was the METHOD of plunder. There does not exist on this earth a plundered people whom you cannot find reasons to blame for their condition - including our people. They've taken it to an absolute art form in the case of the palestinians - NO ONE doesn't hate 'em.
I can show you so many perfectly decent, non drug addicted people who "slipped through the cracks" that you would have to ask, "Are those cracks, or chasms? Do you genuinely believe that two parents working and kids unsupervised is our birthright? No, sir. WE are being plundered.
SJConspirator » 16 Jul 2022, 6:37 pm » wrote: ↑ some will say that's just the way it is. I say no it isn't.
Look at Scandinavian countries where workers have guaranteed vacation, maternity leave, health care and low suicides and bankruptcies.
People can thrive in some countries. We don't thrive in the USA, you survive the USA if your lucky
GHETTOBLASTER » 16 Jul 2022, 7:15 pm » wrote: ↑ some of the folks in TENT CITIES would have jobs..even decent careers if we didn't have MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL ALIENS.
Of course millions of unskilled 80 IQ ...to skilled 120 IQ jobs have been taken by machines and foreign labor too.
Celebrities on both sides of the aisle are lured into sexually compromising situations that are photographed and kept under wraps for decades as Political Black Mail / Collateral.Cannonpointer » 16 Jul 2022, 2:46 pm » wrote: ↑ Oh, there were quite a number of weird moments. Not just one or two. And there's his friendship with epstein. Not saying he was one of epstein's tricks - just saying if he was a leftist, those on the right would happily make that connection.
All I'm saying is, let's be CONSISTENT.
When we get a slap that WE WOULD GIVE in the same circumstance, just take the damned slap, FFS.
Statesmanship would be required.SJConspirator » 16 Jul 2022, 6:33 pm » wrote: ↑ I would say the thinking doesn't get much more simple.
The occupation of Afghanistan may have given us slightly cheaper opioid and cell phones. I would rather have foreign policy that doesn't make us hated
Perview isn't showing up on spell check either. I think it's a verb. Scope is a noun.GHETTOBLASTER » 16 Jul 2022, 1:37 pm » wrote: ↑ WOW..!!
Isn't that the most PRETENTIOUS way to say "SCOPE"......!!
I think I am going to start using it too...![]()
I think it is spelled *perview" though...?
And we are RICH compared to them as regards climate and resources. But their system is more geared to the welfare of the regular folks, and not geared for plunder. They have what Americans has under FDR - a fair shake for the working man.SJConspirator » 16 Jul 2022, 6:37 pm » wrote: ↑ some will say that's just the way it is. I say no it isn't.
Look at Scandinavian countries where workers have guaranteed vacation, maternity leave, health care and low suicides and bankruptcies.
People can thrive in some countries. We don't thrive in the USA, you survive the USA if your lucky
SJConspirator » 16 Jul 2022, 6:33 pm » wrote: ↑ I would say the thinking doesn't get much more simple.
The occupation of Afghanistan may have given us slightly cheaper opioid and cell phones. I would rather have foreign policy that doesn't make us hated
Scope vs Purview - What's the difference? | WikiDiffMonderegal » 16 Jul 2022, 8:21 pm » wrote: ↑ Perview isn't showing up on spell check either. I think it's a verb. Scope is a noun.

TENS OF THOUSANDS OF CIVILIAN DEATHS YOU CHARACTERIZE A SECURITY UMBRELLA?Monderegal » 16 Jul 2022, 11:01 am » wrote: ↑ Well, I hate to make the counterargument but US hegemony could be seen as a good thing. It stopped nuclear proliferation and adds a security umbrella for many nations around the Earth. This all really started after the Cold War which was supposed to bring the Pax Americana and the End of History. I also think that the Cold War was a time where both sides enacted horror in the battle of ideologies (Vietnam?). Still, Russia would probably be ravaging Europe if Trump was truly allowed to bring down NATO. We have the military and we use it to bring peace in a somewhat convoluted way.
SJConspirator » 16 Jul 2022, 6:37 pm » wrote: ↑ some will say that's just the way it is. I say no it isn't.
Look at Scandinavian countries where workers have guaranteed vacation, maternity leave, health care and low suicides and bankruptcies.
People can thrive in some countries. We don't thrive in the USA, you survive the USA if your lucky
SATANICCannonpointer » 16 Jul 2022, 6:13 pm » wrote: ↑ I suspect our tormenters never were.
If I had to wager money for or against hillary clinton's actual humanity, I would lay my money against it. It's my money; I value it - and that is how I would bet.
I'm not saying she isn't PART human. Just not human.

GHETTOBLASTER » 16 Jul 2022, 9:12 pm » wrote: ↑ Let's look at Denmark
Stable growth rate...not even 1%
No Sub Saharan ******...?........![]()
A fairly healthy population density..although my opinion about that issue is 100% IN PHASE WITH THAT FIGURE APPROACHING 1 person per square mile.
.Demographics of Denmark - Wikipedia
That is hard, horrible work! I did that back in the 70's. I had to scrub shower stalls with pure acetone.I came down with a horrible pneumonia for three weeks and almost died.Holdor » 16 Jul 2022, 7:29 pm » wrote: ↑ I had a job in construction cleanup when I was young for 1 week, the boss came to me and said I have to let you go, I can hire 3 Illegals for what I should be paying you.
They also threw the Russia Russia Russia **** in our faces !Cannonpointer » 16 Jul 2022, 2:25 pm » wrote: ↑ Doesn't change the right of trump haters to throw those photos in your face.
I'd suggest that "brainwashed" is a more appropriate term . . .
Friendship ?
Absolutely 100% correct !Cannonpointer » 16 Jul 2022, 3:25 pm » wrote: ↑ The left and the right are just servants of the real problem. The "tumor on the left" could not exist without republican support.
Does the lady sit on your face, occasionally ?