Liberal Forum

FOS » 16 Jul 2022, 1:13 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Jul 2022, 1:13 pm

who is to blame for this suffering of the people?

the ones who provoked a major military power to invade their country.

Putin himself was given no practical choice. None. blame nato and zelensky for this.

In the END it does NOT MATTER.. Dont you get that?
It's us little people who always pay the price for the corruption. and the oligarchs...pawns
Its not important who starts it..
How it's hurting normal folks like us- that really matters. the rest of it is really just BS.

sootedupCyndi » 16 Jul 2022, 1:22 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Jul 2022, 1:22 pm

In the END it does NOT MATTER.. Dont you get that?
It's us little people who always pay the price for the corruption. and the oligarchs...pawns
Its not important who starts it..
How it's hurting normal folks like us- that really matters. the rest of it is really just BS.

we pay the price for allowing these corrupt oligarchs who care nothing for us to rule us.

every citizen who obeys their orders is complicit.

FOS » 16 Jul 2022, 1:23 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Jul 2022, 1:23 pm

we pay the price for allowing these corrupt oligarchs who care nothing for us to rule us.

every citizen who obeys their orders is complicit.

so you agree then? thank you,,  it aint cool 

FOS » 16 Jul 2022, 1:18 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Jul 2022, 1:18 pm

that is not how the majority of russians see it.
Russians are not allowed to debate or question Putin about anything.

What the majority of Russians think is unrealistic, they are victims of propaganda.
Just like the Cubans who cheer for Diaz Canel or Nicaraguans who support Ortega.
 

The Russians would be better off with free and democratic elections, just as the Ukrainians.

Xavier_Onassis » 16 Jul 2022, 1:28 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Jul 2022, 1:28 pm

The Russians would be better off with free and democratic elections, just as the Ukrainians.

ukraine has never had that bro.

neither has the US.
 

Hank » 16 Jul 2022, 8:14 am » wrote: ↑

16 Jul 2022, 8:14 am

How about 4?

1. Russia could have easily destroyed Ukraine's infrastructure with their air superiority
2. Putin tried to negotiate a peaceful resolution with NATO and Ukraine but was ignored 
3. D.c Dosen't care how many Ukrainians Die fighting a losing war because they are our proxies. 
4. Black vegetable is a shill for the establishment 

Hank gets the conversation rolling with a ONE PUNCH KNOCK OUT....  


 

SJConspirator » 16 Jul 2022, 8:32 am » wrote: ↑

16 Jul 2022, 8:32 am

it's called pre emotive strike.  Are you always against that, or only when Putin does It?

In 1967, Israel led preemptive strikes against Egypt and Jordan for amassing troops on their borders.  Was that wrong too?

Of course, as it was a violation of the UN Charter.
Perhaps less somewhat flagrant, because on other occasions, the Arab states attacked Israel preemptively.

FOS » 16 Jul 2022, 1:29 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Jul 2022, 1:29 pm

ukraine has never had that bro.

neither has the US.

Perhaps, but it is a goal to strive for. The US has made its own foreign policy during most of its history. It has certainly not always made wise decisions.

Xavier_Onassis » 16 Jul 2022, 2:56 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Jul 2022, 2:56 pm

Perhaps, but it is a goal to strive for. The US has made its own foreign policy during most of its history. It has certainly not always made wise decisions.

but you are dedicated to the idea that anyone our masters do not like must be the bad guy.

Xavier_Onassis » 16 Jul 2022, 12:37 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Jul 2022, 12:37 pm

Oh, ****!   It is ever so obvious that Putin has been planning to invade and subjugate Ukraine for several years now, because Ukraine is a serious threat to Putin's dictatorship. NATO stated the obvious: Ukraine, like any sovereign state, has the right to make its own alliances as it sees fit.
There were ALREADY NATO troop's on Russian's borders prior to Putin's attack.

 Lies pushing a conflict between the mostly Christian USA Republic and the Christian Russian republic. 
 

Bob » 17 Jul 2022, 12:29 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Jul 2022, 12:29 pm

 Lies pushing a conflict between the mostly Christian USA Republic and the Christian Russian republic.

What did I post that you call a lie?

FOS » 16 Jul 2022, 1:23 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Jul 2022, 1:23 pm

we pay the price for allowing these corrupt oligarchs who care nothing for us to rule us.

every citizen who obeys their orders is complicit.

will you ever think beyond economic terminology as your core value system to rank gets the privileges earned by convincing everyone else self deception is better than being honest within yourself.

Xavier_Onassis » 17 Jul 2022, 3:28 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Jul 2022, 3:28 pm

What did I post that you call a lie?

  War escalation is being carried out with about zero diplomatic negotiation, the Ukrainians are not recognizing any Geneva convention rules and USA is no longer recognizing Nuremberg rules (no forced experiment medical treatments).  Nothing but sending longer range weapons to Ukraine with USA expecting some kind of complete unconditional Russian surrender where the surviving Russian population will be expected to inject genetic modification colt shots, eat GMO food, drink fluoride water, eat bug crap, have a gay pride parade and die with a shortened life span etc.  The longer range weapons mean that Russia will be trying to push the front lines further back so that the civilians who they are trying to protect will not be continuing to get random bombed.

 

So thousands of municipalities that add minute traces of Stannous Fluoride to their water to prevent tooth decay are actually murdering their citizens?  Are you unaware that the reason for fluoridation was based on research about people in the US, notably the Texas Panhandle, that had many, many fewer tooth cavities than the national average, and that it was determined that naturally occurring trace amounts of fluoride in the well water was the cause for this?

Opposition to water fluoridation was a favorite bugaboo of the John Birch Society. They said that at any moment, evil Communists would give an order, increase the dosage and wipe out millions of Americans.

Of course, this is impossible, because Stannous Fluoride, also added to toothpaste, is only slightly soluble in water. It is impossible to add a fatal dose.

This forum seems to have some sort of forum idiot magnet that attracts weirdos with ever wacko conspiracy possible.

SJConspirator » 16 Jul 2022, 8:23 am » wrote: ↑

16 Jul 2022, 8:23 am

We have now lost two members to dementia. First it was CG, now BV. Alzheimers is a sad condition, and a silent killer

Alzheimer's is not a "silent killer"  Just listen to Joe Biden blither blathering on and on about nothing.  He's anything but silent.
 

roadkill » 16 Jul 2022, 8:05 am » wrote: ↑

16 Jul 2022, 8:05 am

Blackvegetable » 16 Jul 2022, 8:02 am » wrote: ↑

16 Jul 2022, 8:02 am

The guy's an inarticulate boob.

This thread isn't about Biden...you boob.   lol

 

Thank you.  roadrash the forum inarticulate boob.  Asshole as well. lol
 

IkeBana » 18 Jul 2022, 9:11 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jul 2022, 9:11 am

Thank you.  roadrash the forum inarticulate boob.  Asshole as well. lol

Most would vote me as much more articulate than you Twinkie Butt.   lol

Blackvegetable » 16 Jul 2022, 8:02 am » wrote: ↑

16 Jul 2022, 8:02 am

The guy's an inarticulate boob.

Of course...but let's get it complete...

Richard H. Black is not a Senator.  He was never a US Senator.  He was a state senator from the state of Virginia.  We might as well get our information from the guy at the shoe rental counter at the local bowling alley.
 

FOS » 16 Jul 2022, 1:23 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Jul 2022, 1:23 pm

we pay the price for allowing these corrupt oligarchs who care nothing for us to rule us.

every citizen who obeys their orders is complicit.

in your next post citizens not obeying orders are traitors.

IkeBana » 18 Jul 2022, 9:16 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jul 2022, 9:16 am

Of course...but let's get it complete...

Richard H. Black is not a Senator.  He was never a US Senator.  He was a state senator from the state of Virginia.  We might as well get our information from the guy at the shoe rental counter at the local bowling alley.

Exactly.