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Holdor » 17 Jul 2022, 1:53 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Jul 2022, 1:53 pm

The USA does not import Oil from Saudi Arabia, it is too far to Ship, Saudi Arabia can sell their oil much closer to Home.

The USA Imports Oil from Canada and Mexico, we also used to get from Venezuela and Russia but these have stopped.

The USA is also the worlds largest producer of Oil.

If Russia was too far away to ship oil to the US, so is Saudi Arabia. The difference between the distance between Odessa and, say Houston is very close to the distance between Jeddah and Houston. 

Transport by tanker is not all that expensive. The grade of oil is a more important factor. crude oil varies in density and what can be produced from it,
The production of oil seems far too complicated for you to address.
 

Blackvegetable » 18 Jul 2022, 8:08 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jul 2022, 8:08 am

How does that square with that "Energy Independence" pap you slack jaws are in the habit of puking up?

You must have me confused with someone else. I wonder if SA is selling us Russian oil at their discount?
 

Blackvegetable » 18 Jul 2022, 8:13 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jul 2022, 8:13 am

Huey » 18 Jul 2022, 8:11 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jul 2022, 8:11 am

You first post was an attempt to divert.  So who was lying, math geek?

Post the rule.

And your stipulation.

 

Don't know of any rule, Adolph

 

Cedar » 18 Jul 2022, 8:13 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jul 2022, 8:13 am

What do you think makes your college any better than another? Did they teach different math, sciences or history?

You'll have to ask Zeet why he suddenly became so reluctant to talk about it.

Xavier_Onassis » 18 Jul 2022, 8:01 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jul 2022, 8:01 am

What countries have "energy independence?". Only those in which the country OWNS all the oil that it consumes and the government of said country sets the price throughout the country.
Venezuela, for example. To some degree, Ecuador. And perhaps Saudi Arabia (where the oil belongs to Aramco, a corporation owned by the monarchy), and Bahrain, Qatar, the UAE and perhaps Oman.

The US will have oil independence when it nationalizes all oil producers and refineries and boosts the production of all petroleum products to the level that the country requires.

This is not at all likely to occur.

Ah, the commie speaks about the glories of socialism!  How fitting!

But for your information, a country DOES NOT have to have nationalized their fossil fuels production in order to be energy independent.  Weren't WE under President Trump nitwit?

There are PLENTY of other countries that are energy independent or net exporters of energy.  Add these to your list:


 

Xavier_Onassis » 18 Jul 2022, 8:15 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jul 2022, 8:15 am

If Russia was too far away to ship oil to the US, so is Saudi Arabia. The difference between the distance between Odessa and, say Houston is very close to the distance between Jeddah and Houston. 

Transport by tanker is not all that expensive. The grade of oil is a more important factor. crude oil varies in density and what can be produced from it,
The production of oil seems far too complicated for you to address.
 

here you are still pretending to have a superior intellectual mind than an average conceived brain navigating a lifetime as conceived to decomposed mutually evolving here now.

Your intellect is only 3 dimensional ideology, my brain navigates minimum of 8 hemispheres of organized doubt.

Blackvegetable » 18 Jul 2022, 8:20 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jul 2022, 8:20 am

You'll have to ask Zeet why he suddenly became so reluctant to talk about it.

Another non answer.

Cedar » 18 Jul 2022, 8:24 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jul 2022, 8:24 am

Another non answer.

No, Cheddy....

It's Zeet's **** to eat.

He boasted about it, insisted I wouldn't merit admission.

I showed him my hand.

He never got to naming the place.

If you don't like my answers, go play with

@Vegas  

 

Blackvegetable » 18 Jul 2022, 8:04 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jul 2022, 8:04 am

Zeet,

How **** could this college of yours be?

You don't know anything you haven't been told to believe by your radio.

I know more about economics than a dope like you ever will, and I got NONE of that information from a radio, you nitwit!
What's the value of YOUR economic "education" when you can't even grasp economics most fundamental laws?

  WORTHLESS!

 
 

Zeets2 » 18 Jul 2022, 8:22 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jul 2022, 8:22 am

Ah, the commie speaks about the glories of socialism!  How fitting!

But for your information, a country DOES NOT have to have nationalized their fossil fuels production in order to be energy independent.  Weren't WE under President Trump nitwit?

There are PLENTY of other countries that are energy independent or net exporters of energy.  Add these to your list:

**** idiot.

The term is functionally meaningless.

Zeets2 » 18 Jul 2022, 8:27 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jul 2022, 8:27 am

I know more about economics than a dope like you ever will, and I got NONE of that information from a radio, you nitwit!
What's the value of YOUR economic "education" when you can't even grasp economics most fundamental laws?

  WORTHLESS!

 
 

From listening to college drop outs on the radio?

Zeets2 » 18 Jul 2022, 8:22 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jul 2022, 8:22 am

Ah, the commie speaks about the glories of socialism!  How fitting!

But for your information, a country DOES NOT have to have nationalized their fossil fuels production in order to be energy independent.  Weren't WE under President Trump nitwit?

There are PLENTY of other countries that are energy independent or net exporters of energy.  Add these to your list:

This is NOT about Socialism, it is about logic.

If you are FINANCIALLY INDEPENDENT. what does that mean?
It means  that you have enough money to cover at a minimum, all your expenses, and have the ability to select from whom you buy the things you need.
It does NOT MEAN that you have the ability to BORROW enough money to cover at a minimum all of your expenses.

If a country is ENERGY INDEPENDENT, it means that the country produces, at a minimum, all the energy that it consumes and can SET THE PRICE of that energy.

You do not comprehend what is meant by Energy Independent.
The US has never been energy independent. The people and government do not control the corporations that produce energy. The prices have always been set by market forces. (This may not have been true during WWII, because the government rationed gasoline and some other petroleum products.

Xavier_Onassis » 18 Jul 2022, 7:20 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jul 2022, 7:20 am

He was not on his knees, and was not begging.  It made better sense for Biden to make the visit than to not make it, and the results are yet to be seen. There is no doubt whatever that MBS actually ordered the murder of Kashogghi, he just did not expect that the gory details about slicing and sawing the US resident journalist into bits and incinerating the bits in the embassy BBQ grill. There is no doubt that Biden was outraged by this, and that MBS knows precisely what Biden and most of the world thinks of this murder.

You weren't there, so you don't know if he wasn't on his knees begging.

And when asked, Biden said he wasn't meeting with the Saudis one on one. He said that he was meeting with multi-Arab nations at once and that the Saudi's would be there.

He begged for oil like a feening bitch and the Saudis gave him just enough to see him thru August.

And Nobody gives a **** about Kashogghi but him mom.
 
 

Your intellect is only 3 dimensional ideology, my brain navigates minimum of 8 hemispheres of organized doubt.
Your description of your intellect suggests a splayed octopus.

Why do you think that doubt is organized in hemispheres?.
 

Huey » 18 Jul 2022, 8:18 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jul 2022, 8:18 am

Don't know of any rule, Adolph

Then why are you constantly whining?
 

Blackvegetable » 18 Jul 2022, 9:06 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jul 2022, 9:06 am

Huey » 18 Jul 2022, 8:18 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jul 2022, 8:18 am

Don't know of any rule, Adolph

Then why are you constantly whining?
 

 

 

Blackvegetable » 15 Jul 2022, 10:30 am » wrote: ↑

15 Jul 2022, 10:30 am

Huey » 15 Jul 2022, 10:27 am » wrote: ↑

15 Jul 2022, 10:27 am

Youre irrelevant.  As are your comments.

Post the thread title, Whiny.

It's not about me.
 

 

LMAO!  

ScottMon » 17 Jul 2022, 6:12 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Jul 2022, 6:12 pm

Remember when Trump promised to replace the ACA with something much better?  Remember when he promised that the Covid-19 would be gone in months?  Remember when he claimed the election was stolen without an ounce of proof?

Try to keep up here RAINMAN. Your TDS is as bad as black vegetable. This article is about Resident Biden saying one thing, and the Saudis saying another. Did you even read the article?

FOCUS.....RAINMAN....or you will wake up tomorrow just as IGNORANT as you are right now.


 
 

Huey » 18 Jul 2022, 9:15 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jul 2022, 9:15 am

LMAO!

Feeling rich in limbs this morning?

TB7 » 18 Jul 2022, 9:16 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jul 2022, 9:16 am

Try to keep up here RAINMAN. Your TDS is as bad as black vegetable. This article is about Resident Biden saying one thing, and the Saudis saying another. Did you even read the article?

FOCUS.....RAINMAN....or you will wake up tomorrow just as IGNORANT as you are right now.

Is that newsworthy?

TB7 » 18 Jul 2022, 9:16 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jul 2022, 9:16 am

Try to keep up here RAINMAN. Your TDS is as bad as black vegetable. This article is about Resident Biden saying one thing, and the Saudis saying another. Did you even read the article?

FOCUS.....RAINMAN....or you will wake up tomorrow just as IGNORANT as you are right now.


 

Pretty sure you weren't bothered nearly as much when Trump told his lies, So your moral outrage is kind of false.