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Trump did not advocate lawbreaking.

sure he did, the moment he urged his mob to March on the Capitol, to say nothing of his “fight like hell” incitement. 

thelion » 23 Jul 2022, 8:00 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Jul 2022, 8:00 pm

Trump did not advocate lawbreaking.

sure he did, the moment he urged his mob to March on the Capitol, to say nothing of his “fight like hell” incitement.

TB7 » 23 Jul 2022, 11:14 am » wrote: ↑

23 Jul 2022, 11:14 am

That’s why (as the Justice Department concluded) his speech isn’t punishable as incitement. Under the First Amendment, incitement can be punished only if it intentionally calls for lawbreaking that is likely to occur. Trump did not advocate lawbreaking. What ensued probably surprised him as much as anyone. It would not have happened except for the remarkable, unpredictable failure of the Capitol Police. If the mere knowledge that some lawbreaking would probably happen were enough to punish speech, we would be locking up Black Lives Matter organizers.

On the other hand, criminal law is narrowly limited for good reason. A defendant must be proven to have violated some preexisting, clearly defined prohibition. It is not enough to show that he is nasty. A world in which the state is free to punish those it deems nasty would be frightening. Trump is immune from prosecution because of the very institutions, limiting the abuse of political power, that he has struggled against throughout his presidency.



Why Trump can’t be prosecuted | The Hill

A soap opera show is not reality, that's why.

Bob » 25 Jul 2022, 4:48 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2022, 4:48 am

A soap opera show is not reality, that's why.

how much of it have you watched?

TB7 » 24 Jul 2022, 7:10 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2022, 7:10 am

you can cut the gay with a light sabre..

Blackvegetable » 25 Jul 2022, 5:37 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2022, 5:37 am

how much of it have you watched?

Not much time lately, missed it and have not seen my favorite soap opera the bold and the beautiful in over a year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnBUbRowRgM
 

Bob » 25 Jul 2022, 5:46 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2022, 5:46 am

Not much time lately, missed it and have not seen my favorite soap opera the bold and the beautiful in over a year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnBUbRowRgM

So, by what is your review informed?

TB7 » 23 Jul 2022, 11:14 am » wrote: ↑

23 Jul 2022, 11:14 am

That’s why (as the Justice Department concluded) his speech isn’t punishable as incitement. Under the First Amendment, incitement can be punished only if it intentionally calls for lawbreaking that is likely to occur. Trump did not advocate lawbreaking. What ensued probably surprised him as much as anyone. It would not have happened except for the remarkable, unpredictable failure of the Capitol Police. If the mere knowledge that some lawbreaking would probably happen were enough to punish speech, we would be locking up Black Lives Matter organizers.

On the other hand, criminal law is narrowly limited for good reason. A defendant must be proven to have violated some preexisting, clearly defined prohibition. It is not enough to show that he is nasty. A world in which the state is free to punish those it deems nasty would be frightening. Trump is immune from prosecution because of the very institutions, limiting the abuse of political power, that he has struggled against throughout his presidency.



Why Trump can’t be prosecuted | The Hill
 

He represents what people want life to look like beyond how it does exist as biological results here now. When everyone does it in one form or another for God, country, community, family rank within ancestral progression only mutually evolving forward here now.

So many ways to persuade people to never accept living as one of a kind and only one way it works in series parallel space going on now as specific to genetic results present..

Huey » 23 Jul 2022, 12:18 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Jul 2022, 12:18 pm

That’s dumb.

That was his own opinion. No questions either.

We should encourage the poor lil' guy. He's coming out of his self-imposed shell.

omh » 25 Jul 2022, 6:36 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2022, 6:36 am

He represents what people want life to look like beyond how it does exist as biological results here now. When everyone does it in one form or another for God, country, community, family rank within ancestral progression only mutually evolving forward here now.

So many ways to persuade people to never accept living as one of a kind and only one way it works in series parallel space going on now as specific to genetic results present..

Good point omh....and well thought out too.
 
 

TB7 » 25 Jul 2022, 7:08 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2022, 7:08 am

Good point omh....and well thought out too.
 
 

that is a typical "That's nice" response where I get a pat on the head and told to stfu, stay in my lane, do your jog, do your social duty, bla bla bla and you never change your mind or character role playing until dead.

My brain learned how to navigate beyond power of suggestion and discover living doesn't kinetically exceed evolving as displaced here now as a whole species, in a whole food chain, in a whole atmosphere, of a whole solar system, to a whole galaxy in this whole universal moment perpetual motion is cold fusion with perpetual balancing results never duplicated again.

Simple compounding interest rule of 72.

All in the integers between squared and cubed used to sustain hope, faith, charity, opportunity, power, wealth, fame operating within means, motives, methods, organized denial, orchestrated chaos, everyone not in charge stuck in the misery of no good deed goes unpunished.

https://i.postimg.cc/wTW954r4/Picture-113.jpg Harmony in compounding sequences of series parallel development ancestral results in plain sight.

In his speech on January 6th President Trump said,
''I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.”However, since I do not want President Trump’s supporters to accuse me of taking his words out of context, let’s look at the entire speech that morning and the context in which it was made, spanning the last three months. After all, this speech did not occur in a vacuum.
 You can find the text of the speech here: Donald Trump Speech "Save America" Rally Transcript January 6. I encourage everyone to read it and watch the video.
6 **** YEARS AND NOT 1 SINGLE INDICTMENT AGAINST HONEST DON. NOT ONE...ZILCH...ZERO...ZILCH...NADA...

My GOD....6 years and nothing

 
 

TB7 » 25 Jul 2022, 7:39 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2022, 7:39 am

In his speech on January 6th President Trump said,
''I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.”However, since I do not want President Trump’s supporters to accuse me of taking his words out of context, let’s look at the entire speech that morning and the context in which it was made, spanning the last three months. After all, this speech did not occur in a vacuum.
 You can find the text of the speech here: Donald Trump Speech "Save America" Rally Transcript January 6. I encourage everyone to read it and watch the video.
6 **** YEARS AND NOT 1 SINGLE INDICTMENT AGAINST HONEST DON. NOT ONE...ZILCH...ZERO...ZILCH...NADA...

My GOD....6 years and nothing

What exactly did Trump mean when he said "fight like hell if you want to save your country?"
 

ScottMon » 25 Jul 2022, 7:56 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2022, 7:56 am

What exactly did Trump mean when he said "fight like hell if you want to save your country?"

IT MEANS EXACTLY WHAT THESE MEANT

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‘I’ve Yet to See Him Fight Like Hell’: Biden’s Black Supporters …
Obama campaign chief: ‘We got beat,’ so ‘let’s ‘fight like hell’
 
 
 

ScottMon » 25 Jul 2022, 7:56 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2022, 7:56 am

What exactly did Trump mean when he said "fight like hell if you want to save your country?"
 

Same thing your side means. Come hell or high water nobody gives up believing now isn't eternity. Nobody serving humanity's greater good concepts wants a united understanding of kinetic genetic connectivity going on here now.

omh » 25 Jul 2022, 8:24 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2022, 8:24 am

Same thing your side means. Come hell or high water nobody gives up believing now isn't eternity. Nobody serving humanity's greater good concepts wants a united understanding of kinetic genetic connectivity going on here now.

So if I said to a crowd of angry people that OMH is the reason you are overworked and underpaid, and You should think about maybe talking to him about it, You would be ok with all of that?  I DARE you to answer yes or no.  
 

TB7 » 23 Jul 2022, 11:14 am » wrote: ↑

23 Jul 2022, 11:14 am

Under the First Amendment, incitement can be punished only if it intentionally calls for lawbreaking that is likely to occur. Trump did not advocate lawbreaking. 
 

That is a matter of judicial opinion.  Which typically is determined by a grand jury.
 

ScottMon » 25 Jul 2022, 8:29 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2022, 8:29 am

So if I said to a crowd of angry people that OMH is the reason you are overworked and underpaid, and You should think about maybe talking to him about it, You would be ok with all of that?  I DARE you to answer yes or no.  
 

you would be lying. I have obeyed society's regulations to earning a living in a society pulling my own weight without being loyal to any one side or disrupting how living naturally happens with or without reality in real time displacement.

Honesty has a tendency to disrupt false authority figures misleading ancestry for generations.

omh » 25 Jul 2022, 8:33 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2022, 8:33 am

you would be lying. I have obeyed society's regulations to earning a living in a society pulling my own weight without being loyal to any one side or disrupting how living naturally happens with or without reality in real time displacement.

Honesty has a tendency to disrupt false authority figures misleading ancestry for generations.

 I knew you would chicken out.   
 

IkeBana » 25 Jul 2022, 8:33 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2022, 8:33 am

That is a matter of judicial opinion.  Which typically is determined by a grand jury.

6 **** YEARS AND NOT 1 SINGLE INDICTMENT AGAINST HONEST DON. NOT ONE...ZILCH...ZERO... ZILCH...NADA

and to all my Hispanicbrothers and sisters
ni uno solo
joe and jill went up the hill, to get some breakfast tacos...  
joe fell down, and jill got down, on Pedro's big fat nacho