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ScottMon » 25 Jul 2022, 8:36 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2022, 8:36 am

 I knew you would chicken out. 

hey scotty...i'm hour huckleberry

what about these...you have yet to tell us EXACTLY what they meant....or are you chickening out


Old tweets show Raskin, Biden saying 'fight like hell'
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The hearing...what a bombshell, right? I mean, it’s so stunning that it shouldn’t be hard at all to provide direct proof that Trump or anyone in his orbit told the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers to fight with cops and enter the Capitol. Yet, that evidence has never come to light, and it’s never going to come. Because again, this committee has nothing. Rather, it exists to vomit out a bunch of unconnected dots in the hopes of pushing a disproven narrative.

TB7 » 25 Jul 2022, 8:42 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2022, 8:42 am

IkeBana » 25 Jul 2022, 8:33 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2022, 8:33 am

That is a matter of judicial opinion.  Which typically is determined by a grand jury.

6 **** YEARS AND NOT 1 SINGLE INDICTMENT AGAINST HONEST DON. NOT ONE...ZILCH...ZERO... ZILCH...NADA

We shall see.  The testimony presented at the hearings, all of it by Republicans and Republican members of the Trump administration confirms that Trump knew that rioters were carrying firearms, knowing this he ordered them (by their own testimony they said they were "under orders" from their president) to March to the Capitol and fight, and when the rioting broke out he ordered his Secret Service staff, “I don’t **** care that they have weapons, they’re not here to hurt me. They’re not here to hurt me. Take the **** mags away. Let my people in. They can march to the Capitol from here, let the people in and take the mags away.”

We shall see what a grand jury has to say.  We shall see if a grand jury thinks Trump advocated lawbreaking.  From the Republicans who testified before the 1/6 committee it's pretty clear he was advocating killing somebody.  When told that the rioters were chanting " Hang Mike Pence" Trump's reaction was " He deserves it."  Sounds like advocating to me.
 

omh » 25 Jul 2022, 7:13 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2022, 7:13 am

that is a typical "That's nice" response where I get a pat on the head and told to stfu, stay in my lane, do your jog, do your social duty, bla bla bla and you never change your mind or character role playing until dead.

My brain learned how to navigate beyond power of suggestion and discover living doesn't kinetically exceed evolving as displaced here now as a whole species, in a whole food chain, in a whole atmosphere, of a whole solar system, to a whole galaxy in this whole universal moment perpetual motion is cold fusion with perpetual balancing results never duplicated again.

Simple compounding interest rule of 72.

All in the integers between squared and cubed used to sustain hope, faith, charity, opportunity, power, wealth, fame operating within means, motives, methods, organized denial, orchestrated chaos, everyone not in charge stuck in the misery of no good deed goes unpunished.

https://i.postimg.cc/wTW954r4/Picture-113.jpg Harmony in compounding sequences of series parallel development ancestral results in plain sight.

 

TB7 » 25 Jul 2022, 9:04 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2022, 9:04 am

The hearing...what a bombshell, right? I mean, it’s so stunning that it shouldn’t be hard at all to provide direct proof that Trump or anyone in his orbit told the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers to fight with cops and enter the Capitol. Yet, that evidence has never come to light, and it’s never going to come. Because again, this committee has nothing. Rather, it exists to vomit out a bunch of unconnected dots in the hopes of pushing a disproven narrative.

Ignorant liberals refuse to understand the fact that this phony committee couldn't care less about the security of the Capitol or they would have demanded to hear testimony from Pelosi and Bowser who refused to accept the 10,000 additional security guards that President Trump offered when he told them they would be needed, or from the Capitol guards that held open the doors to the demonstrators and posed for pictures with them, or from FBI plant Ray Epps who ENCOURAGED AND INCITED the crowd to ENTER the Capitol, all while editing the statements made by President Trump when he repeatedly urged the crowd to be peaceful and law-abiding and then to "go home" when it became violent.  Their ONLY interest is in their continual attempt to smear President Trump sufficiently so they can try to prevent him from running again in 2024 where he will undoubtedly run multiple REAL investigations after he's re-elected and expose the depth of their corruption!
 

TB7 » 25 Jul 2022, 8:48 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2022, 8:48 am

hey scotty...i'm hour huckleberry

what about these...you have yet to tell us EXACTLY what they meant....or are you chickening out

Old tweets show Raskin, Biden saying 'fight like hell'
Opinion | Joe Biden Interview: 'We’re Going to Fight Like Hell' - The \
Biden Fondly Recalls ‘Real Segregationists,’ Says They’d ‘Fight Like ...INCITEMENT?
Joe Biden Vowed to ‘Fight Like Hell’ in May 2019
Joe Biden Looks To The Road Ahead, Says He's Ready To 'Fight …
“Fight Like Hell!” Democrats Used The Exact Same ... - 93.1FM WIBC
‘I’ve Yet to See Him Fight Like Hell’: Biden’s Black Supporters …
Obama campaign chief: ‘We got beat,’ so ‘let’s ‘fight like hell’


 

Oh yeah, They used those words, but Did they tell their respective crowds to go to the Capitol building?  
 

TB7 » 25 Jul 2022, 8:42 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2022, 8:42 am

6 **** YEARS AND NOT 1 SINGLE INDICTMENT AGAINST HONEST DON. NOT ONE...ZILCH...ZERO... ZILCH...NADA

and to all my Hispanicbrothers and sisters
ni uno solo
joe and jill went up the hill, to get some breakfast tacos...  
joe fell down, and jill got down, on Pedro's big fat nacho

6 years of Democrat Tears.......
......But guess who keeps on winning?


 

ScottMon » 25 Jul 2022, 9:19 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2022, 9:19 am

Oh yeah, They used those words, but Did they tell their respective crowds to go to the Capitol building?

To peacefully make their voices heard? No, generally democrats skip the peaceful part when fomenting violence. 
 

IkeBana » 25 Jul 2022, 9:14 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2022, 9:14 am

We shall see.  The testimony presented at the hearings, all of it by Republicans and Republican members of the Trump administration confirms that Trump knew that rioters were carrying firearms, knowing this he ordered them (by their own testimony they said they were "under orders" from their president) to March to the Capitol and fight, and when the rioting broke out he ordered his Secret Service staff, “I don’t **** care that they have weapons, they’re not here to hurt me. They’re not here to hurt me. Take the **** mags away. Let my people in. They can march to the Capitol from here, let the people in and take the mags away.”

We shall see what a grand jury has to say.

oh no.....the fbi did not get that info....you might want to pass it on to them IKEY

FBI: No Firearms Were Found in the US Capitol During the January 6 Riot - The Truth About Guns

Johnson: How many firearms were confiscated in the Capitol or on Capitol grounds during that day?Sanborn: To my knowledge, we have not recovered any on that day from any other arrests at the scene at this point, but I don’t want to speak on behalf of Metro and Capitol police, but, to my knowledge, none.Johnson: So nobody has been charged with an actual firearms weapon in the Capitol or on Capitol grounds?Sanborn: Correct. The closest we came was the vehicle that had the molotov cocktails in it and when we did a search of that vehicle later on there was a weapon, but…Johnson: How many shots were fired that we know of?Sanborn: I believe the only shots that were fired were the ones that resulted in the death of the one lady.
 

ScottMon » 25 Jul 2022, 9:19 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2022, 9:19 am

Oh yeah, They used those words, but Did they tell their respective crowds to go to the Capitol building?
 

"Oh yeah, They used those words, but Did they tell their respective crowds to go to the Capitol building?"
my gawd man....

 

jefftec » 25 Jul 2022, 9:30 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2022, 9:30 am

"Oh yeah, They used those words, but Did they tell their respective crowds to go to the Capitol building?"
my gawd man....

I KNOW...**** UNREAL 
 

TB7 » 25 Jul 2022, 9:14 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2022, 9:14 am

 

Dishonest within yourself won't defeat social corruption among everyone else. Each person gets one time to live with one brain, society makes a person mind several ideologies at the same time preventing the same thing, everyone using their own brain.

omh » 25 Jul 2022, 12:17 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2022, 12:17 pm

Dishonest within yourself won't defeat social corruption among everyone else. Each person gets one time to live with one brain, society makes a person mind several ideologies at the same time preventing the same thing, everyone using their own brain.

 

ScottMon » 25 Jul 2022, 8:36 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2022, 8:36 am

 I knew you would chicken out.  :D 
 

Where have i chickened out? you join a team of believers real isn't actual life evolving in plain sight and I am an ancestor living as eternally only separated in plain sight. I don't mind others pretending actual life isn't kinetically self evident.

But I do compromise with those ignoring the self evident by the old custom of "When in Rome....and get the hell out of the way of the barbarians on the other side of the hill.."

TB7 » 25 Jul 2022, 9:25 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2022, 9:25 am

oh no.....the fbi did not get that info....you might want to pass it on to them IKEY

 

Of course you **** will ignore testimony information from the hearings, so I'm just going to respond with info from that testimony from members of the Trump administration who testified.  Trump and his people had several confirmed reports of weapons at the rally.  Why would Trump's head burst into flames demanding to get rid of the mags unless he knew there were firearms?
 
 

IkeBana » 25 Jul 2022, 3:28 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2022, 3:28 pm

Of course you **** will ignore testimony information from the hearings, so I'm just going to respond with info from that testimony from members of the Trump administration who testified.  Trump and his people had several confirmed reports of weapons at the rally.  Why would Trump's head burst into flames demanding to get rid of the mags unless he knew there were firearms?

YOU WERE SHOWN A VIDEO FROM THE FBI....NO GUNS..WEAPONS, YES....GUNS NO

 

IkeBana » 25 Jul 2022, 3:28 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2022, 3:28 pm

Of course you **** will ignore testimony information from the hearings, so I'm just going to respond with info from that testimony from members of the Trump administration who testified.  Trump and his people had several confirmed reports of weapons at the rally.  Why would Trump's head burst into flames demanding to get rid of the mags unless he knew there were firearms?

FBI official: No guns were seized during arrests at Jan 6 …
https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/fbi-reveals...Mar 04, 2021 · FBI reveals not a single gun was recovered nor firearms charge filed during Jan. 6 Capitol siege arrests. The following article contains editorial content written by a retired Chie

TB7 » 23 Jul 2022, 11:14 am » wrote: ↑

23 Jul 2022, 11:14 am

That’s why (as the Justice Department concluded) his speech isn’t punishable as incitement. Under the First Amendment, incitement can be punished only if it intentionally calls for lawbreaking that is likely to occur. Trump did not advocate lawbreaking. What ensued probably surprised him as much as anyone. It would not have happened except for the remarkable, unpredictable failure of the Capitol Police. If the mere knowledge that some lawbreaking would probably happen were enough to punish speech, we would be locking up Black Lives Matter organizers.

On the other hand, criminal law is narrowly limited for good reason. A defendant must be proven to have violated some preexisting, clearly defined prohibition. It is not enough to show that he is nasty. A world in which the state is free to punish those it deems nasty would be frightening. Trump is immune from prosecution because of the very institutions, limiting the abuse of political power, that he has struggled against throughout his presidency.



Why Trump can’t be prosecuted | The Hill

I mean...you are basically suggesting that the USA sticks consistently to the letter of the law which I simply do not believe at all...especially when politics or racism is involved. 

FOS » 25 Jul 2022, 3:52 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2022, 3:52 pm

I mean...you are basically suggesting that the USA sticks consistently to the letter of the law which I simply do not believe at all...especially when politics or racism is involved.

NOPE...NEVER SUGGESTED A THING. NOT ONE WORD IN THAT ARTICLE IS MINE, NOR, DID I SUGGEST THAT I AGREE WITH THE ARTICLE. I DID POST THE PIC OF HONEST DON LAUGHING. ADDS CHARACTER TO THE ARTICLE. 


 

IkeBana » 25 Jul 2022, 9:14 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2022, 9:14 am

We shall see.  The testimony presented at the hearings, all of it by Republicans and Republican members of the Trump administration confirms that Trump knew that rioters were carrying firearms, knowing this he ordered them (by their own testimony they said they were "under orders" from their president) to March to the Capitol and fight, and when the rioting broke out he ordered his Secret Service staff, “I don’t **** care that they have weapons, they’re not here to hurt me. They’re not here to hurt me. Take the **** mags away. Let my people in. They can march to the Capitol from here, let the people in and take the mags away.”

We shall see what a grand jury has to say.  We shall see if a grand jury thinks Trump advocated lawbreaking.  From the Republicans who testified before the 1/6 committee it's pretty clear he was advocating killing somebody.  When told that the rioters were chanting " Hang Mike Pence" Trump's reaction was " He deserves it."  Sounds like advocating to me.

Keep in mind...most of the testimony given to the committee (at least during these entertainment productions) will be inadmissible in court because it is hearsay and doesn't meet one of the exceptions. Also, you are only seeing the testimony they want you to see and hearing answer to selected questions.  Does than mean everyone would cave under a strong cross-examination?  Of course not...but a defense attorney doesn't need them to cave.  They only need reasonable doubt in one juror.

I'm not convinced Trump will ever be indicted.  There's a reason US Attorney's and DAs have such a high winning percentage...they don't indict anyone unless they are confident they have a high probability of winning in court.  Any prosecutor that has a winning percentage less than 90% is an idiot.