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ScottMon » 22 Aug 2022, 9:48 am » wrote: ↑

22 Aug 2022, 9:48 am

Why wait until a trial to reveal the ballot fraud?  Why not make it public now since Trump is leaning heavily on public opinion.

Because the ballot fraud and all the **** Trump & Co. put out even BEFORE election day DIDN'T EXIST, and he/they KNEW it... which is exactly why they set up fake electors to fraudulently certify a win for the whiney baby LOSER. And even after audits up the yazoo, including a highly PARTISAN Cyber Ninja FRaudit, they couldn't prove otherwise.  And now Fux News is looking to settle out of court for FRAUDULENTLY claiming something was wrong with Dominion voting machines.  Trump LOST. HE knows it. And so do his deplorables.

NEILCAR » 21 Aug 2022, 10:05 am » wrote: ↑

21 Aug 2022, 10:05 am

It is amazing you still believe anything the dem leadership says,

I told you earlier I'd get back to your comments above, and I'm only now able to find some time to respond. I  already addressed the first part.

My initial response on your second part (above) might have been that it was amazing MAGAS (see how I changed that from "you"?) believe anything Trump and Republican leadership says. Until I thought about it and realized that it wasn't amazing in the LEAST. I mean, hey, have you seen those interview tapes with Trump rally goes? One was featured in @nuckin futz 's thread titled "They Can't Really Be This Crazy Can They?" (Short answer: YES). 

We're taking people, some of whom are Qanon devotees waiting around Dallas for JFK to return. We're talking people who believe "the election was stolen." 

And no Democrats didn't "lie" about collusion. Trump and Barr just did a good job covering it UP. 

Besides, if you're on a national stage calling for Russia to get your opponent's emails, siding with Putin against your own intelligence agency, and your campaign cohorts are secretly meeting with Russians, then the Feds NEED to investigate your (meaning Trump & Co's) ***.

Whats more, Trump got the FBI (that same FBI who MAGAS now want to "shoot on sight") to hand over 4500 complaints on Kavanaugh. Gee, I wonder what happened to almost ALL of them? ... questionable border patrol's actions against immigrants? yes. (never heard of the men can get pregnant ****... some Fux must've told their bamboozled listeners) and the TONS of other TRUMP/MAGA **** I've been posting about for nearly A YEAR.

But truth IS, NONE of that even begins to scratch the surface of Trump's and the GOP's REAL criminality and evil, does it?

 
 

B.See » 23 Aug 2022, 4:34 am » wrote: ↑

23 Aug 2022, 4:34 am

I told you earlier I'd get back to your comments above, and I'm only now able to find some time to respond. I  already addressed the first part.


But truth IS, NONE of that even begins to scratch the surface of Trump's and the GOP's REAL criminality and evil, does it?

Hilary and the dem party paid a fine for misuse of campaign dollars for funding the Steel Dossier, which was the basis of the dem fake collusion  story.... 
Some would suggest it really wasn't much of a cover up since Trump didn't do it and it was made up by hilary... lol 

As to criminality I ask you to prove it in a court of law, you know with real evidence, examination, cross examination, and getting reasonable people to reach a logical conclusion, (not a January 6 commission witch-hunt)  .... 
As to Evil ...have you seen brandon's 1st 17 months in office ... lol 

NEILCAR » 23 Aug 2022, 7:38 am » wrote: ↑

23 Aug 2022, 7:38 am

Hilary and the dem party paid a fine for misuse of campaign dollars for funding the Steel Dossier, which was the basis of the dem fake collusion 


As to Evil ...have you seen brandon's 1st 17 months in office ... lol

Your first comment is comparing apples to howitzers...a fine for misuse of campaign funds to sedition and insurrection.

Your last comment is wanker conjob brainfarting ... lol, indeed.
 

IkeBana » 23 Aug 2022, 8:11 am » wrote: ↑

23 Aug 2022, 8:11 am

Your first comment is comparing apples to howitzers...a fine for misuse of campaign funds to sedition and insurrection.

Your last comment is wanker conjob brainfarting ... lol, indeed.

Well, there is the minor point that hilary and the dems actually misused campaign dollars ... while, no one has/is charges with sedition or insurrection ... much less proved guilty.
 .. but don't let the facts get in the way a another dem fake logic story.

&  ... I mean really ... HAVE YOU SEEN BRANDON 1ST 17 MONTH???  Even Dems are running away from brandon...

 

Most of what was in the Steele dossier was accurate.
The bit about the pee tapes has not been proven nor disproven.

Xavier_Onassis » 23 Aug 2022, 1:13 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Aug 2022, 1:13 pm

Most of what was in the Steele dossier was accurate.
The bit about the pee tapes has not been proven nor disproven.

After a series of investigations and lawsuits almost all of the allegation regarding the Steel Dossier were discredited. 
Later these investigations exposed the unreliability of Steel's sources.
Finally, when it became known that hilary and the dem party funded the Steel Dossier for the expressed purpose of false allegations against Trump, the entire ordeal fell into just another dem fake news story with the dems proving that Trump was innocent. 

 
 

Xavier_Onassis » 23 Aug 2022, 1:13 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Aug 2022, 1:13 pm

Most of what was in the Steele dossier was accurate.
The bit about the pee tapes has not been proven nor disproven.

Germany believes it happened.
Trump says Germany are held Captive by Russia, One Thing Pee Pee Tape - YouTube
 

In retrospect to the **** the FASCIST MAGA REICH has been doing in their QUEST TO END DEMOCRACY IN AMERICA, let's take a look at some of the GOOD NEWS from Biden and the Democrats.  

From, "On Being Civil to Incivility" in the (so-called) "Liberals Only Forum" that conservatives have taken to  TROLLING AS WELL. 

Democrats Take Lead Over Republicans in Major Polling Average

With Major Policy Wins, Joe Biden's Presidency & Approval Ratings Are Finally Looking Up - uPolitics

Obama: Climate, health care bill ‘a BFD’ | The Hill

Biden's Education Department took an 'enormous step' toward helping student-loan borrowers who have been shut out of debt relief 

Joe Biden To Host Unity Summit Against Hate-Fueled Violence In September 

continued below:

 
 

continued from above:

5 good things Biden has done for all of us | Fox News   (YES, FROM THAT FOX NEWS)

Biden marks Slavery Remembrance Day: ‘Great nations don’t hide from their history’

The Future of Democracy Is Now at the Top of Midterm Voters' Minds | Vanity Fair

Another Ignored Biden Accomplishment: Helped Save the US Postal Service
 
 

At least SOME know "the Beast" when they see him.

BMW heir Stefan Quandt says Europe must do everything to prevent Donald Trump's re-election | Fortune

BMW deputy chairman Stefan Quandt warned it would be naive for the continent to view Trump as a “historical aberration” and rule out the possibility of his reelection in 2024. 

“Europe and the entire free world can count itself lucky today that Joe Biden is the rightful president of the United States of America. And we need to do everything in our power so that it stays that way,” said Quandt, according to a report by Germany’s Focus Money. 

In a survey published just weeks before the pandemic upended world order, Germans overwhelmingly told pollsters that Trump was the biggest threat to peace.

By comparison, Russian leader Vladimir Putin only factored a distant third with just 8% behind North Korea’s Kim Jong-Un. 
 
 

With a Single Word, Ted Cruz Gave the Game Away About the Right-Wing Supreme Court

Cruz sees the high court’s conservative majority as a “victory” in an ongoing ideological project.

And he’s not wrong—that is precisely how the court’s conservative bloc see it as well.

Their end goal has long been apparent: They want to kneecap Congress and install themselves as an unelected superlegislature with veto power over the executive and legislative branches. 

meanwhile:

New documents shed light on vast right-wing plan to disrupt democracy 

Newly revealed documents shed light on a secretive right-wing group, its well-connected members and extensive efforts undertaken to overturn Donald Trump's election loss. [including]

• extensive planning its members undertook to discredit the 2020 election results,
• to undermine local election officials,
• and incite the protest on January 6, 2021

also:

Congressman-Elect Deems Trump 'Essentially Traitorous'
 

GOP Is 'Dangerous,' Former Pence Adviser Defends Biden's Anti-MAGA Speech

Olivia Troye, an ex-adviser to former Vice President Mike Pence, defended President Joe Biden's anti-MAGA speech on Saturday amid GOP backlash.

Biden took aim at Donald Trump and his supporters during a speech in Philadelphia on Thursday about the "battle for the soul of the nation." During the fiery speech, he condemned what he views as anti-Democratic posturing from the Republican Party. He blasted them for attacking the integrity of the 2020 presidential election, opposing abortion rights, and trying "to take this country backwards."

"... there's no question that the Republican Party today is dominated, driven and intimidated by Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans. And that is a threat to this country. These are hard things," Biden said in his speech.
 

B.See » 04 Sep 2022, 6:57 am » wrote: ↑

04 Sep 2022, 6:57 am

GOP Is 'Dangerous,' Former Pence Adviser Defends Biden's Anti-MAGA Speech

Olivia Troye, an ex-adviser to former Vice President Mike Pence, defended President Joe Biden's anti-MAGA speech on Saturday amid GOP backlash.

Biden took aim at Donald Trump and his supporters during a speech in Philadelphia on Thursday about the "battle for the soul of the nation." During the fiery speech, he condemned what he views as anti-Democratic posturing from the Republican Party. He blasted them for attacking the integrity of the 2020 presidential election, opposing abortion rights, and trying "to take this country backwards."

"... there's no question that the Republican Party today is dominated, driven and intimidated by Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans. And that is a threat to this country. These are hard things," Biden said in his speech.

Well, after watching the "Soul of America" speech where brandon didn't offer any response to crime, inflation, border, drugs, energy, economy, supply chain, nor a failed foreign polocy ...  but attacked Trump (who ihasn't even announce that he may run for office) ... lol 

I would suggest the Dem party is dominated, driven, and intimidated by Donald Trump and MAGA. lol 
 

ConservativeWave » 29 Jul 2022, 9:03 am » wrote: ↑

29 Jul 2022, 9:03 am

DEMOCRATS.... THEY accuse others of doing... EXACTLY what THEY are doing THEMSELVES... the above is ANOTHER EXAMPLE of EXACTLY THAT !! 

It is the DEMOCRATS who are trying to DESTROY Democracy in America... JUST look at their POLICIES: 1) DE- FUND the police, 2) PRO CRIME, 3) The DIVISION and DESTRUCTION of the FABRIC of America, and 4) The sewing of HATE, one group against another, THRU-OUT America...

It's called PROJECTION... and it is the DEMOCRATS who are ACTIVELY trying to DESTROY America... NOT Republicans... and I THINK... America NOW REALIZES IT !!

Let's look at that: "Defund the Police" was a loud, short lived theme from a small segment of the Left. It was never a "policy" of the Democratic Party.  Your other three
"policies" are mere foolish accusations. There is no "sewing of hate" in America to speak of other than the hate spawned by the unthinking loyalty to Trump. We saw it  displayed in the violence at the Capitol on Jan. 6. We see it mildly in the language of posts like yours and graphically in the anonymous hate and threats of violence the Right spews daily on social media.

The party of treason

Now that a photo of what was actually found at Mar-a-Lago was publicly released, not even that turns out to be good enough. House Republicans like Jim Jordan will follow Trump through whatever crimes against our nation Trump wants to commit.

The Republican Party is the party of willing treason. There's no cutting around that, any more than Jim Jordan can let his eyes wander across a dozen all-caps secret and top secret document cover sheets to decide that the real story here was a TIME magazine cover in the corner of the picture.

also:

FASCISM 101: Lies, falsehoods and "vacuous truths": the GOP's realm of absolute emptiness - Why the media — even LOGIC, for that matter — have been utterly sabotaged in the Trump era

THE MAGA REICH.
FASCISM: The once-conservative GOP has been 'radicalized' by 'authoritarian MAGA World': Ex-Bush speechwriter - Alternet.org

Reporter warns far-right Republicans may be close to achieving a 'radical rewrite' of the Constitution -

Florida county Republican Party wants to barr FBI agents and label World Health Organization as 'terrorists'

FOX NEWS Publishes Brutal NY Times Story that a GOP House 'Could Plunge US and World Into Chaos'

Experts warn about Supreme Court supporting 'dangerous' GOP legal theory 

 

Conservative analyst Charlie Sykes: 'The GOP is now run by your crazy uncle — and he's spreading mass psychosis'

'Pro-Putin Republicans' have become the GOP’s ‘new useful idiots’: former Reagan speechwriter

Blake Masters Wants to Fire All Generals and Replace Them With Conservatives

WHO AND WHAT THEY ARE:

Trump and the Republican revolt against democracy, explained in 13 charts - Vox

Today’s Republicans really hate Democrats — and democracy (each illustrated by charts)

1) Trump’s supporters have embraced anti-democratic ideas
2) Republicans are embracing violence
3) Republicans see Democrats as something worse than mere rivals
4) Republicans dislike compromise
5) The Republican Party is a global outlier — and not in a good way
6) The Republican turn against democracy begins with race
7) Partisanship causes Republicans to justify anti-democratic behavior
8) The crucial impact of the right-wing media
9) Republicans have an unpopular policy agenda
10) Some of the most consequential Republican attacks on democracy happen at the state level
11) The national GOP has broken government
12) It's still Trump's party - Republicans DON'T care that Trump abused his power
13) Trump and Trumpism will return in 2024

 

THE DIVIDER - RIVETING NARRATIVE OF TRUMP'S PLOT AGAINST AMERICA
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In electing Trump, Baker and Glasser write, the US empowered a leader who “attacked basic principles of constitutional democracy at home” and “venerated” strongmen abroad. Whether the system winds up in the “morgue” and how much time remains to make sure it doesn’t are the authors’ open questions.

 Trump spoke kindly of Vladimir Putin, Xi Jinping and Kim Jong-un. He treated Volodymyr Zelenskiy of Ukraine as a plaything, to be blackmailed for personal gain.

 Trump sought to give the Israeli-controlled West Bank to King Abdullah of Jordan. For Benjamin Netanyahu, the former and possibly future prime minister of Israel, he had a tart “**** him”.

At home, the US is mired in a cold civil war. Half the country deems Trump unfit to hold office, half would grant him a second term, possibly as -resident for life.
 

Warnings mount over right-wing plot to rewrite the Constitution

Government watchdogs are warning that the Republican takeover of state legislatures in recent years could imminently have major implications for the United States, as a right-wing effort to hold a new constitutional convention appears closer than ever to being realized.

ALSO RANK FASCISM - NO DENYING IT:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh9LRsmBVMk